Ulicus posted:Funnily enough, I'm more anti Force flight than I am pulling Star Destroyers out of the air. Even if only the most powerful characters can fly, that still begs the question "why don't we see Luke doing it?". Or, one better, Palpatine. We've seen both of them do stuff on par/beyond pulling Star Destroyers out of the air... but [we've never seen them fly about. (Though I think Luke's levitated himself down slowly a couple of times before, which is close I'll admit).
SephyCloneNo15 posted: Battlefront II, anyone? Sidious and Vader's double jump was to fly with the Force. It was unexpected and wierd, but fun. I'm not sure if it's just N-canon game mechanics, though.
Jedi_Matt posted: BUT ( ), I completely agree with the extravagance of the Force powers so far displayed. My hope is these force powers go down as game mechanics, and therefore hold no canonical ground
Ulicus posted:Even if only the most powerful characters can fly, that still begs the question "why don't we see Luke doing it?". Or, one better, Palpatine. We've seen both of them do stuff on par/beyond pulling Star Destroyers out of the air... but [we've never seen them fly about. (Though I think Luke's levitated himself down slowly a couple of times before, which is close I'll admit).
Zorrixor posted:Ulicus posted:Even if only the most powerful characters can fly, that still begs the question "why don't we see Luke doing it?". Or, one better, Palpatine. We've seen both of them do stuff on par/beyond pulling Star Destroyers out of the air... but [we've never seen them fly about. (Though I think Luke's levitated himself down slowly a couple of times before, which is close I'll admit). My understanding for its lack of use, if one takes the way it works in the RPG at face value, is because it's not actually as useful as it sounds. It requires near perfect concentration so one hit, knock, blaster shot in general direction, sudden unexpected shout from someone, is liable to break the concentration needed for it and send you spiraling into oblivion. I tend to feel the word "levitation" is probably more apt than "flight". Flight makes me think of Superman, which isn't the way it seems to be described as nor intended to work in the sourcebook. In contrast levitation just makes me think of the odd time or two when Dooku floated softly through the air in the Clone Wars cartoon. It's "flight" of a sort, but not flying through the air like a plane. I figure Luke just doesn't use it because there probably isn't much point in a combat situation and out of combat it would likely go against the Jedi attitude to not using the Force when it isn't necessary (I'm thinking of Anakin telling Padme Obi-Wan would be angry at him for playing around at dinner, I figure the same logic would apply to being too lazy to walk).
Charlemagne19 posted:Jedi_Matt posted: BUT ( ), I completely agree with the extravagance of the Force powers so far displayed. My hope is these force powers go down as game mechanics, and therefore hold no canonical ground Why? It helps establish just how powerful Darth Vader is. I'm going to be cheerful about the death of the stupid "Ancient Jedi and Sith were more powerful than present day ones" when we have Vader's apprentice able to pull off all this sort of crap that Vader can presumably do even in his weakened state.
Ulicus posted:Of course, there's still Maw - an otherwise mediocre dark jedi who can fly about willy nilly through the power of the Force. Damn him.
DarthDemize posted:Theres like 20 Real Jedi's that survived the Purge.. Sooo If anyone I would like to see is Quilian Vos.. He was on Kashyye During the time period of the purge.. Sooo its possible U fight him in the game on that level.. it makes sense.. the time period is close..And that would be a hot **** fight..Darth Maul is raw.. everything about him is raw... and it would be a good fight... plus they show a double bladed saber.. sooo im guessin it could be.. cuz he came back with metal legs durin this time too...Sooo I think that would be hott..There keepin it a secret but there gonna have a hott multi player... sooo there gonna get the tightest techniques of fightin.. Promise u that.. and the new characters like maris brood.. and others... shitt..Plus This convo is about Vader and his beatin up action figure.. Well Darth Maul did **** up vader and sliced his helmet in half about.. and it was during this time period.. sooo I believe maul will be in it..
Jmacq1 posted:Again you assume that Vader is either actually going to be shown doing this stuff, and/or isn't going to get his butt handed to him on a silver-platter by his freakishly powerful Apprentice. Given the track record of Vader portrayals, I'm not counting on either.
Havac posted:Ulicus posted:Of course, there's still Maw - an otherwise mediocre dark jedi who can fly about willy nilly through the power of the Force. Damn him. I question his being otherwise mediocre. He was able to sense fear very clearly through the Force, and presumably had to be pretty good to get his old job of Jedi Shadow. I don't think we really have that much evidence for his direct power level -- but what we do see is actually fairly impressive. I'd guess he's better off than most of Palpatine's other dark side minions.
Ulicus posted:It just makes no sense to me that MAW of all people can use Force flight in combat situations and can get smacked around without his concentration being broken... whilst Palpatine can't/doesn't.
Ulicus posted:Havac posted:Ulicus posted:Of course, there's still Maw - an otherwise mediocre dark jedi who can fly about willy nilly through the power of the Force. Damn him. I question his being otherwise mediocre. He was able to sense fear very clearly through the Force, and presumably had to be pretty good to get his old job of Jedi Shadow. I don't think we really have that much evidence for his direct power level -- but what we do see is actually fairly impressive. I'd guess he's better off than most of Palpatine's other dark side minions. Perhaps. I don't know. He was certainly "bad" enough that he managed to get cut in half by Rahn, who wasn't exactly Obi-Wan Kenobi and was outnumbered seven-to-one. Sure, he got surprised but.... The only thing we see that is impressive (in game, I dunno about the novellas) is the flying... and I always preferred the gravlift explanation. It just makes no sense to me that MAW of all people can use Force flight in combat situations and can get smacked around without his concentration being broken... whilst Palpatine can't/doesn't. Of course, I have this conversation at least four times a year... and I can quite easily pretend that he still uses a gravlift.
Zorrixor posted:As much as it's not really regarded as canon, I have to say, Palpatine's model floating constantly in Battlefront II was rather sweet. (if a little silly looking )
Havac posted: I've said before, it's possible this is just Maw's One Big Talent
Havac posted: If you don't want to hate it, you don't have to.