Jmacq1 posted: Again you assume that Vader is either actually going to be shown doing this stuff, and/or isn't going to get his butt handed to him on a silver-platter by his freakishly powerful Apprentice. Given the track record of Vader portrayals, I'm not counting on either.
SephyCloneNo15 posted:Ulicus posted:Funnily enough, I'm more anti Force flight than I am pulling Star Destroyers out of the air. Even if only the most powerful characters can fly, that still begs the question "why don't we see Luke doing it?". Or, one better, Palpatine. We've seen both of them do stuff on par/beyond pulling Star Destroyers out of the air... but [we've never seen them fly about. (Though I think Luke's levitated himself down slowly a couple of times before, which is close I'll admit). Battlefront II, anyone? Sidious and Vader's double jump was to fly with the Force. It was unexpected and wierd, but fun. I'm not sure if it's just N-canon game mechanics, though.
Ulicus posted:Funnily enough, I'm more anti Force flight than I am pulling Star Destroyers out of the air. Even if only the most powerful characters can fly, that still begs the question "why don't we see Luke doing it?". Or, one better, Palpatine. We've seen both of them do stuff on par/beyond pulling Star Destroyers out of the air... but [we've never seen them fly about. (Though I think Luke's levitated himself down slowly a couple of times before, which is close I'll admit).
Ulicus posted: My hope is that the movie Force powers are a result of Mace's quote "our ability to use the Force has diminished" being retconned to cover the entire spectrum of abilities, rather than just divination. Well, if the OTT powers appear in the novelization and stuff as well at least.
SephyCloneNo15 posted:Battlefront II, anyone? Sidious and Vader's double jump was to fly with the Force. It was unexpected and wierd, but fun. I'm not sure if it's just N-canon game mechanics, though.
Barriss_Coffee posted:Who doesn't like a flying Palpatine?
Arawn_Fenn posted:Ulicus posted: My hope is that the movie Force powers are a result of Mace's quote "our ability to use the Force has diminished" being retconned to cover the entire spectrum of abilities, rather than just divination. Well, if the OTT powers appear in the novelization and stuff as well at least. My hope is that the Jedi simply don't tend to overuse the Force out of consideration for the Living Force and so as not to further unbalance it.
Charlemagne19 posted:Jmacq1 posted: Again you assume that Vader is either actually going to be shown doing this stuff, and/or isn't going to get his butt handed to him on a silver-platter by his freakishly powerful Apprentice. Given the track record of Vader portrayals, I'm not counting on either. I don't think Vader will do anything impressive on camera and the end battle will result in the secret apprentice perhaps defeating him and escaping. Nevertheless, the Secret Apprentice was taught by Vader and got all of his cool powers FROM him.
Jmacq1 posted: Believe me, that's not what I want to see, but by most indications it's what we're going to see. I'm also genuinely curious how they're going to explain away pulling a Star Destroyer out of the sky with seemingly very little effort (no more so/less than Yoda pulling an X-Wing out of a swamp) in what's clearly a plot-cutscene, and then trying to say it's "game mechanics."
IcePirate posted:so if size matters not, then how long is going to take until we see a game/cartoon/whatever where a force user knocks a planet out of orbit with the force? sorry... the star destroyer thing bugs me as much as yoda flinging around those droid dropships.
vong333 posted:Thats what I was saying, there seams to be a big gap with the force powers. For instance: When you read the AOTC novelization, it states that Obi-Wan when he was falling from that little droid that he was hanging on the outskirts of Couruscant, it stated that he had no force powers that he could count on to lower his fall, but then you see the clone war animation and both himself and Anakin jump from way out there in the sky and land without a problem.
vong333 posted:Furthermore, in this last book, Last of the Jedi #8, Ferus Olin jumps from thousands of meters in the air, where that medical center that Palpatine has from ROTS and basically almost lands without a problem. So in one source you can do something but in another you can't.
Charlemagne19 posted: But yes, I don't think the Secret Apprentice is meant to be anything but No. 3 amongst the Emperor's Dark Siders. I think he's the first real indication there's a difference between Sith Lords (he's basically like Darth Maul trained under Darth Sidious when Plaguies was alive) and the rank and file Dark Siders.