Author Topic: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (and beyond?)
EH_Pilot  3940 posts
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Date Posted: 10/9/07 7:46pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Is there any indication that The Force Unleashed will actually involve fighting rebels? And not just mindlessly murdering stormtroopers?

Arawn_Fenn: Dark Empire remains canonical, regardless of what your personal interpretation of the Prophecy dictates to you.

The Prophecy must either mean that Anakin is to destroy the Sith, bring balance to the Force, or do both. Since Palpatine returned from his apparent death, and the Kraytic Sith Order's existence in Legacy, the Prophecy must mean bringing balance to the Force. The Sith, or Palpatine, are coincidentally the cause.

Anakin destroys Palpatine, breaking his dominion of the Force, thereby balancing the Force.

 

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Havac  14313 posts
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Date Posted: 10/9/07 8:12pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
It's too early for capital-R Rebels. Just Jedi, which you do get to fight. It'd be nice to crush some local uprisings, though.


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The "Junk Golem" looks like a mix between a spider droid and a Nexu.

Actually, it kind of reminds me of a stripped-down, ungainly Basilisk.

 

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Zorrixor  4364 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 4:32am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 10/10/07 4:43am (4 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
Ulicus posted:
Anakin kills Palpatine.

There are now no Sith and balance is restored. Prophecy fulfilled. That's the end of its involvement.

Palpatine returns.

Palpatine is killed again.

Does DE detract from the prophecy? Yes. Does it invalidate it? No.

I mean, gosh, since we know that canonically the prophecy WAS fulfilled, and since we know that Palpatine has returned *anyway* in canon, they might as well bring him back again at some point. whistling

Indeed, that's how I look at it too.

As far as I can remember, the prophecy never said "The Chosen One will destroy the Sith forever". The Jedi just made a big deal out of nothing. Sure, some dude defeated the Sith, whoopdeedoo, they shouldn't have gone getting their hopes up it about it being forever.

Like you say, does it detract from it? Obviously. Doesn't stop it making sense, just makes the Jedi look a bit naive and the significance of the prophecy a whole lot less important.

But... if one ignores flow-walking and goes back to treating the future as always being in motion I do find there is still a way to treat Anakin as special. What he did was stop "the Sith in the vision", singular, i.e. Palpatine, ruling the galaxy forever. The Sith order, plural, may come back again and again but as far as the Force was concerned Palpatine was the only one who actually stood a chance of bringing in an eternal age of darkness. In other words, all subsequent Sith are wimps who will be defeated through natural means, whereas Palpatine required the Force itself to step in and avert catastrophe. From that point of view, Anakin was still important and Palpatine the Big Bad.

That said, personally I still just prefer to think the Jedi made a big deal out of nothing though. tongue

 

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Ulicus  7359 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 5:35am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Zorrixor posted:

But... if one ignores flow-walking and goes back to treating the future as always being in motion I do find there is still a way to treat Anakin as special. What he did was stop "the Sith in the vision", singular, i.e. Palpatine, ruling the galaxy forever. The Sith order, plural, may come back again and again but as far as the Force was concerned Palpatine was the only one who actually stood a chance of bringing in an eternal age of darkness. In other words, all subsequent Sith are wimps who will be defeated through natural means, whereas Palpatine required the Force itself to step in and avert catastrophe. From that point of view, Anakin was still important and Palpatine the Big Bad.

I'd pretty much agree with this.

Still, I'd love to see a "Dark Empire: Special Edition" that featured Spectral Anakin being the one who finally traps Palpatine in the afterlife/destroys him. Even though I don't have a problem with Palpatine's return in DE, the way he's taken out is a little... demeaning.

 

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Jango_Fettish  1029 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 8:49am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Well, to get back on topic, how about some more miniature pics? Not sure where this came from, but I found it in a thread on Rebelscum : Mini's Poster

Some good stuff there. I wanna know who the brave soul is who tattooed that Rancor laugh

 

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Kaje  1800 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 9:11am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 10/10/07 9:12am (1 edits total) Edited By: Kaje
It's official: I must buy every TFU minis set I see until I get the Century Tank.

Also, what possible use could the Carbonite Han Solo have in the minis game?

 

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Ulicus  7359 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 9:14am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
^ distracts Luke, Leia, Chewie and Lando? Reduces their morale? Forces them to focus all attention on recapturing him?

I don't know how the mini game works.

 

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Jeff_Ferguson  1674 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 9:22am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Darth_Sabith posted:
I always looked at it in the since that Balance meaning causing the Light and Darkside to be even. Thus Vader brought Balance when it was just Vader and Palps for sith. Yoda and Obi-wan then yes Vader brought Balance and when he died the balance was kept because of Luymia


That's not the canonical definition of the balance. And it doesn't make sense, either. Why would the Jedi speak expectantly of "balancing the Force" if it meant equating the numbers of dark and light siders?


Dude... there is no canonical definition of balance. The Episode II novelization clearly states that the prophecy didn't explain what "balance" means. You're stating that DE is non-canonical based on your definition of balance, while completely ignoring that Lucas liked Dark Empire.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 9:40am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 10/10/07 9:40am (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
Zorrixor posted:
The Jedi just made a big deal out of nothing.


Does that sound like canon to you? The prophecy was nothing?

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 9:44am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Jeff_Ferguson posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Darth_Sabith posted:
I always looked at it in the since that Balance meaning causing the Light and Darkside to be even. Thus Vader brought Balance when it was just Vader and Palps for sith. Yoda and Obi-wan then yes Vader brought Balance and when he died the balance was kept because of Luymia


That's not the canonical definition of the balance. And it doesn't make sense, either. Why would the Jedi speak expectantly of "balancing the Force" if it meant equating the numbers of dark and light siders?


Dude... there is no canonical definition of balance. The Episode II novelization clearly states that the prophecy didn't explain what "balance" means. You're stating that DE is non-canonical based on your definition of balance, while completely ignoring that Lucas liked Dark Empire.


There is a canonical definition of balance. It's called Lucas' definition ( and Obi-Wan's ). If you want to argue that Lucas is not canon, go ahead. Who cares if Lucas "liked Dark Empire"? He also likes a lot of the fan films! Are they canon?

 

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_Catherine_  1038 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 9:48am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Arawn_Fenn posted:
There is a canonical definition of balance. It's called Lucas' definition ( and Obi-Wan's ). If you want to argue that Lucas is not canon, go ahead.
You mean destroying the Sith? Um... that's what happened, no? confused

 

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Corusca_One  641 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 10:23am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
The big Tank droid on legs in the bottom right corner of the minis poster (near the Uggernaut!) was in KotOR 2, strange 4,000 year crossover there. Presuming its in the game of course.

Wookiee Hunter configuration AT ST... Kashyyyk?

 

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SephyCloneNo15  6880 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 12:46pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Kaje posted:
Also, what possible use could the Carbonite Han Solo have in the minis game?


Blunt object?

 

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PerfectCell  1792 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 1:37pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Jeff_Ferguson posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Darth_Sabith posted:
I always looked at it in the since that Balance meaning causing the Light and Darkside to be even. Thus Vader brought Balance when it was just Vader and Palps for sith. Yoda and Obi-wan then yes Vader brought Balance and when he died the balance was kept because of Luymia


That's not the canonical definition of the balance. And it doesn't make sense, either. Why would the Jedi speak expectantly of "balancing the Force" if it meant equating the numbers of dark and light siders?


Dude... there is no canonical definition of balance. The Episode II novelization clearly states that the prophecy didn't explain what "balance" means. You're stating that DE is non-canonical based on your definition of balance, while completely ignoring that Lucas liked Dark Empire.


Couldn't have said it any better myself. Although the fact that Lucas likes DE says a lot about the man I do believe.

 

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Ris_jSarek  2555 posts
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Date Posted: 10/10/07 1:50pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Corusca_One posted:
The big Tank droid on legs in the bottom right corner of the minis poster (near the Uggernaut!) was in KotOR 2, strange 4,000 year crossover there. Presuming its in the game of course.


The game includes stuff from all eras.

 

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