Thrawn McEwok posted:Hydronium: The problem is that Tolkien's metafiction is explicitly a printed text of a translation of material from the Red Book of Westmarch, rendered into English out of Westron (and large sections of which were already translated from Elvish) - whereas the Star Wars source material is the movies... Something like the Sil is presented as a self-conscious English rendering of a Westron translation from Elvish... I don't think that analogy really holds up for the Star Wars movies. Yes, the material has been edited - but when we see Artoo's comments written in Aurebesh on a screen, or hear Leia's lips move, and hear the live-recorded dialogue... are you arguing there's a form of "simultaneous translation" going on? - The Imperial Ewok
GrandAdmiralJello posted:"Latin" would make more sense as High Galactic--compare fi to filius and the archaic Basic of Adumar's perator to imperator. This doesn't work for the entire language, particularly the Jedi's use of it, but it would fit in quite well as the ancient language of law, politics, and religion. This is not to say that High Galactic == Latin, but that it plays the role of the language. The Kuati may use its terms for their own ships to make them sound classier--but the High Galactic names are given to us "in translation" as Latinate names.
GrandAdmiralJello posted:To return to my earlier point without doing a quote by quote--Earth is not in the GFFA. There is no way that the "English" language could have arrived in the GFFA a long, long time before it ever existed on Earth unless your claim is that Earth got English from the GFFA. That sort of ridiculousness goes far beyond the tolerant pale in terms of parsimony, and should rank with the worst fanfiction ideas ever. jSarek--are you really going to make the claim that humans on Earth originated from the GFFA, and that English speakers are therefore the original population? Keep in mind, then, that human pre-English history doesn't make sense then.
SuperWatto posted:I got an opinion, but I'm not too sure ya wanna hear it...
SuperWatto posted:See, the moment any link between the GFFA and Earth becomes canon, is the moment I'm throwing in the towel. No matter how many of the Big 3 die, no matter how often Palpatine or dead heroes come back - this is the one and only thing that can drive me away. It's a long time ago and in a galaxy far, far away, it's got nothing to do with us, and that's why I love it.
SuperWatto posted:But hey, that's just my opinion. I also think churches should become discos, so who's gonna listen to me?
SuperWatto posted:See, the moment any link between the GFFA and Earth becomes canon, is the moment I'm throwing in the towel. No matter how many of the Big 3 die, no matter how often Palpatine or dead heroes come back - this is the one and only thing that can drive me away.
Ris_jSarek posted:I'm going to make an even bolder claim, and make an appeal to the Rigellian Paradox - that, like the language of Kang and Kodos from The Simpsons, by astronomical coincidence, Galactic Basic and English happen to be *exactly the same* with no causal link between the two.
Lord_Hydronium posted:There is another interesting problem, though, which is the other Basic alphabet we see, namely, our own Latin alphabet. It's contrasted with Aurabesh, so it's not just a transliteration of that. So either this is an alphabet different to Aurabesh and the Latin one, and for some reason was transliterated to the Latin one instead of Aurabesh, or it happens to be the same as the Latin one. While the latter is less plausible, I do like it better, mostly for the reason that, if you transliterate one, why not do it to the seemingly more common one?
Rogue_Follower posted:SuperWatto posted:See, the moment any link between the GFFA and Earth becomes canon, is the moment I'm throwing in the towel. No matter how many of the Big 3 die, no matter how often Palpatine or dead heroes come back - this is the one and only thing that can drive me away. QFT x2. The moment LFL gets that stupid, it all goes down hill from there.
SephyCloneNo15 posted:Ris_jSarek posted:I'm going to make an even bolder claim, and make an appeal to the Rigellian Paradox - that, like the language of Kang and Kodos from The Simpsons, by astronomical coincidence, Galactic Basic and English happen to be *exactly the same* with no causal link between the two. Except for the number 4
Ris_jSarek posted:SuperWatto posted:See, the moment any link between the GFFA and Earth becomes canon, is the moment I'm throwing in the towel. No matter how many of the Big 3 die, no matter how often Palpatine or dead heroes come back - this is the one and only thing that can drive me away. It's a long time ago and in a galaxy far, far away, it's got nothing to do with us, and that's why I love it. Heh, I look at that same phrase AS a canon link between Earth and the GFFA.