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Darth_Davi  2030 posts
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 5/2/07 8:47pm Subject: RE: Galactic Basic Standard = English or not?
Thrawn McEwok posted:
Isn't it obvious, guys? The Monolith programmed all the apes to evolve into Galactic-Basic-speaking humans...

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I can live with that explanation.

 

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GrandAdmiralJello  59907 posts
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Date Posted: 5/2/07 9:31pm Subject: RE: Galactic Basic Standard = English or not?
Thrawn McEwok posted:
Isn't it obvious, guys? The Monolith programmed all the apes to evolve into Galactic-Basic-speaking humans...

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NRW already?

 

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Palp_Faction  689 posts
Registered: Feb '02
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Date Posted: 5/3/07 8:21am Subject: RE: Galactic Basic Standard = English or not?
My take on SW is that it's a completely alternative reality in which Earth has never existed. It's fantasy. Once you start including the GFFA into our own universe then you are moving SW into the realms of sci-fi which SW isn't because many of the scientific concepts presented in SW are impossible in our own understanding of science in our universe.

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." just means "Once upon a time". i.e SW is a fairy tale and should be considered as such, just as much as Little Red Riding Hood and Cinderella. I really don't believe George seriously wants the audience to believe that there really is a galaxy in our own universe where all this happened in our own past because that's just rubbish sci-fi because the suspension of disbelief is so huge knowing what we know of our own evolution. Basic ISN'T English and any puns and similarities to our alphabet are either coincidence or are assumed to be a play-on-words in Basic.

 

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Dawud786  2654 posts
Registered: Dec '06
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Date Posted: 5/3/07 10:17am Subject: RE: Galactic Basic Standard = English or not?
^That's the reason he, GL, gives for "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" so I don't see why we shouldn't give it credence.

 

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Ris_jSarek  2541 posts
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 5/3/07 5:19pm Subject: RE: Galactic Basic Standard = English or not?
Palp_Faction posted:
My take on SW is that it's a completely alternative reality in which Earth has never existed. It's fantasy. Once you start including the GFFA into our own universe then you are moving SW into the realms of sci-fi which SW isn't because many of the scientific concepts presented in SW are impossible in our own understanding of science in our universe.

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." just means "Once upon a time". i.e SW is a fairy tale and should be considered as such, just as much as Little Red Riding Hood and Cinderella. I really don't believe George seriously wants the audience to believe that there really is a galaxy in our own universe where all this happened in our own past because that's just rubbish sci-fi because the suspension of disbelief is so huge knowing what we know of our own evolution.


Well, we don't work from the assumption that Little Red Riding Hood or Cinderella take place in an alternate reality where Earth never existed. We assume that the very nature of myth itself allow our world to be a bit different for the purposes of those stories. I don't see how Star Wars is different in that respect.

Palp_Faction posted:
Basic ISN'T English and any puns and similarities to our alphabet are either coincidence or are assumed to be a play-on-words in Basic.


If Star Wars is a mythic alternate reality where there is no Earth, then why can't Basic just be English? There's no longer a suspension of disbelief problem in that case.

 

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Dawud786  2654 posts
Registered: Dec '06
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Date Posted: 5/3/07 9:22pm Subject: RE: Galactic Basic Standard = English or not?
Thing is... why should be assume it is English. Sure, for english speaking people it's english, but for those that don't? Japanese, Turkish, Arabic, Hebrew, Spanish etc etc etc.

That's like assuming Shahrezada is speaking English in an English translation of 1,000 Nights... it's English for you, but would it be for the characters in-universe? No.

It shouldn't even be an issue, whatever Galactic Basic is you understand it through whatever means that is. Whether it's from a fictional "translation" or it's English. Doesn't really matter. From my understanding, it's not English... it's Galactic Basic, whatever that is.

 

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