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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 4/30/07 7:41am Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	There were prison cells, and Krayt was in the fifth one! That's the Secret under Ossuss. Krayt was the man in room V. Yeah, I'm gonna be riding the Krayt=V thing in this thread for a while, so get used to it. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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ThrawnRocks Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 4/30/07 2:10pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	Excellence posted: perhaps the lethal secret beneath the Ossus temple is a prisoner, or datatape of interesting bytes. I wonder . . . Depa Billaba and Kar Vastor? -----signature----- My Icons: http://www.powow.com/thrawnrocks/icons.html Roan Fel's badassery knows no bounds. "The next Allston book should be all Syal and Myri, all the time." - Jello
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Lord-DarthMerrick Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 4/30/07 3:11pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	Carnage04 posted: You know, she never actually comes out and says that there ARE other Sith. She implies it to the crazy blugslut. It may have been her way of telling Alema "Little girl, you know nothing. Shut your mouth and strap this bomb on your chest." If they do know each other, they may get along...but Krayt doesn't know about Jacen. Gaurenteed. This isn't the brotherhood of darkness. As much as Krayt's new Sith Order is portrayed as a merry little band of friends.....Krayt wouldn't step aside if someone more powerful came around. Jacen is looking pretty powerful at this point in time. To connect the dots... Lumiya has Krayt at Sith Academy on Korriban. Lumiya goes and trains Jacen. Lumiya brings the allmighty Darth Jacen to meet with Darth Krayt Things don't go so well. Although....it could be the demise of Jacen.....Lumiya is preparing two Sith at the same time to take the mantle of Lord of the new Orderly Sith Order. The strong one becomes the leader. The other becomes bantha fodder. Carnage I actually really like that idea. Which make sense as to why she told Alema that her mission would go on regardless of whether she dies or not b/c Krayt is already a sith. Perhaps in the sequence of things Jacen kills Luke and then later finds out that his true enemy is Krayt. He goes to challenge Krayt with Ben. Jacen is killed by Krayt and Ben is injured. Krayt has a chance to end the skywalker line and kill Ben, but for some reason he stops and leaves Ben to die...but of course Ben lives fathers Kol and there you have it. -----signature----- Those who live by the sword...live longer if they've had sword lessons. Loyalist to the legitimate government of Darth Caedus
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 4/30/07 10:46pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	saber_death posted: BobaMatt posted: It's not very plausible to me that Krayt doesn't know about Jacen. Is he one of those "readers" that doesn't own a TV? well i'm sure who knows who Jacen Solo is (any aspring Sith Lord would be wise to learn about and keep tabs on the heirs of Darth Vader) and what he is publically doing. but he may or may not know that Jacen is being turned by Lumiya. after all, even Luke has only suspicions so far, and he's about as well informed in-universe as anyone is. I'd assume his interest in Jacen would become very, very acute the minute it became very clear that Jacen was going dark. -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 4/30/07 11:18pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	saber_death posted: BobaMatt posted: It's not very plausible to me that Krayt doesn't know about Jacen. Is he one of those "readers" that doesn't own a TV? well i'm sure who knows who Jacen Solo is (any aspring Sith Lord would be wise to learn about and keep tabs on the heirs of Darth Vader) and what he is publically doing. but he may or may not know that Jacen is being turned by Lumiya. after all, even Luke has only suspicions so far, and he's about as well informed in-universe as anyone is. This of course, is logical, but there is a small possibility that Darth Krayt, building up his new Sith legion doesn't really care about what is going on outside of Korriban at this time. His focus now is on obtaining a power base. Without it, he will be ineffectual. With enough of one, current and future events will not matter as they won't be a challenge for him. Shrug Just a thought. Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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J_K_DART Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 5/2/07 5:36am Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	There are two many question-marks still. For example, Lumiya is our only source confirming that she's too weak to be a Master because of cyborg parts. Who's to say she's not playing an even more subtle game..? -----signature----- "Victory without risk is like a pizza without pepperoni." "I like my pizzas without pepperoni." "Sir master of the long post" - Excellence
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 5/2/07 6:07am Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	I'd like to see how you can hide for a century and not have a single defector or dissident bumbling your concealment. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/2/07 8:14am Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	Excellence posted: I'd like to see how you can hide for a century and not have a single defector or dissident bumbling your concealment. By brutally slaughtering anyone who has an inkling of defecting or being a dissident. Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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saber_death Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 5/2/07 9:22am Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	BobaMatt posted: saber_death posted: BobaMatt posted: It's not very plausible to me that Krayt doesn't know about Jacen. Is he one of those "readers" that doesn't own a TV? well i'm sure who knows who Jacen Solo is (any aspring Sith Lord would be wise to learn about and keep tabs on the heirs of Darth Vader) and what he is publically doing. but he may or may not know that Jacen is being turned by Lumiya. after all, even Luke has only suspicions so far, and he's about as well informed in-universe as anyone is. I'd assume his interest in Jacen would become very, very acute the minute it became very clear that Jacen was going dark. but just how clear is it, in universe, and especially to those who don't know him personally, that Jacen is going dark?? even Jacen's own family doesn't know most of what we do when we say Jacen is going dark... such as his relationship with Allana, his treatment of Ta'Chume, the correct information about Nelani or Lumiya (incuding the details about what happened on Lorrd), his erasal of Ben's memories, what he did to Ailyn Vel, or any of Jacen's inner monologue over the last 4 books. only his Holonet broadcast GAG duties are truly public knowledge, and that's not in and of itself is not proof of real darkness when the ultimate good-guy Luke Skywalker is going around and trying to kidnap Correllian leaders (Betrayal). if his darkness was that obvious even the Jedi would have acted on it by now. if Krayt only knows Jacen by reputation/public knowledge and not through Lumiya, it's doubtful at best that he'd know Jacen is dark. at most, he'd see Jacen as the most likely Skywalker to help him or at least not get in his way. -----signature----- Qui-Gon, Jango, Dooku, Mace, Padme, Obi-Wan, Bail, Obi-Wan, Biggs, Palpatine, Anakin... lots of people died in the movies... EU doesn't need to be peaceful and death-free... my LOTF fan-fic http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27067790/p1/?1
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/2/07 12:29pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	Excellence posted: I'd like to see how you can hide for a century and not have a single defector or dissident bumbling your concealment. Krayt's forces are staying at the Hotel Korriban. They can check out any time, but they can never leave. Actually, it wouldn't be that hard to make sure that a defector simply can't get off the planet. Bring recruits in on droid-piloted shuttles (so the pilots don't blab) and program them to self-destruct if anyone, and I mean anyone, tries to climb aboard while it's berthed at Dreshdae. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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EH_Pilot Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 5/2/07 12:41pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	It's more likely to me Lumiya is just lieing about a larger Sith Order. -----signature----- Pilot of the Emperor's Hammer TIE Corps www.tiecorps.org Golden Ewok™ Recipient x4; Trojan Ewok™ Recipient -Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero-
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Sauron_18 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/2/07 3:12pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	EH_Pilot posted: It's more likely to me Lumiya is just lieing about a larger Sith Order. Given the context of her revelation, as well as the chances of tying two stories to make sense, I strongly doubt she was lying about it. -----signature----- San Hill is out there........hiding.......watching......
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/2/07 3:17pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	EH_Pilot posted: It's more likely to me Lumiya is just lieing about a larger Sith Order. Please. Palpatine is clearly the greatest Sith evar. And we know the only time he's ever lied was when he was telling Luke about his many deaths. If the greatest Sith evar only lies once in his whole career, how could Lumiya possibly lie? -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/2/07 3:31pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	EH_Pilot posted: It's more likely to me Lumiya is just lieing about a larger Sith Order. 1) We know one exists, because of Legacy. It'd be silly to write it as a lie only to have her be uniwittingly correct. These books and the comic share an era, remember? 2) She doesn't come out and say it, she just accidentally says too much and Alema deduces the rest. -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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ThrawnRocks Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/2/07 6:05pm Subject: RE: If Lumiya knows of Darth Krayt....
	I think she could have just been saying that she knows even if she dies, Jacen will continue down his dark path, and Alema could have just jumped to a conclusion. Then Lumiya could have just been having fun by leading her on. But I think BobaMatt is right. Since we know already that there are other Sith running around, it is probable that Lumiya at least knows of these other Sith and slipped up in revealing it to Alema. But I don't think that Lumiya is Krayt's master. Their closest relationship IMO would probably be an uneasy alliance. -----signature----- My Icons: http://www.powow.com/thrawnrocks/icons.html Roan Fel's badassery knows no bounds. "The next Allston book should be all Syal and Myri, all the time." - Jello
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