Author Topic: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Lightsnake  632 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:24pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Master_Skywalker20 posted:
Luke is a hypocrite. Its ok when he has brushes with the Dark Side, but when anyone else does, he freaks out. He acts like such a freaking saint and constantly having brushes with the dark side throughout the novels.. I have not read sacrifice yet, but though Jacen is a little shady, for the most part he is doing everything he can to save the galaxy, its Lumiya that is manipulating the war to turn Jacen. I am assuming Mara learns Jacen and Lumiya are working together and therefore decides to kill him. Why? Because she is right, which means he is wrong. He is a tough commander that really has no limits in reaching his goals (which are nobel), but some of the hero's of our world have been the same. Now he has done something HORRIBLE. But what is he supposed to do. Drop his sword and let her kill him. (we all know she would)




What are these constant brushes? Last I checked, Jedi kill Sith. They're supposed to. SIth being the antithesis of balance and lfie and all. Besides, Lumiya is a dangerous murderer and sociopath, or have you forgotten?

 

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VaderLVR64  30945 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:30pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I say GOOD FOR LUKE!

And even though I'm bummed, I'm not complaining. Things are finally interesting again. The Vong just didn't do it for me, but this... devil

 

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patchworkz7  3179 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:32pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
000 posted:
Alright, the usual big-picture related requests.

- Any fleet action?

- Are the Jedi in StealthX's again?

- Any further information on the Council roster?

- Status of the Confederation?

- Phennir? Any cameo?


1) Not yet. This novel is pretty much about the characters, and fwiw, the Mandos take up a lot less space than in BLOODLINES.

2) Yes, Mara almost causes a small diplomatic incident when she follows Jacen in a StealthX and it's one reason they aren't sure where she's gone.

3) Errrm...don't quite recall.

4) Ben assasinates the President of the Corellian League on Jacen's orders and this is what causes the rift and sets Mara on Jacen. Mara confronts Jacen, tells him she knows he's going dark, but is interrupted by the hunt for Lumiya and lack of solid evidence. Later, Ben overhears Lumiya and Jacen talking and tells his mother, and then she goes after him. Luke is bummed because he acted out of vengence on Lumiya and the hint is that part of him may have still had feelings for Shia, and he's having doubts about his judgement so Ben decides to hunt for evidence against Jacen on his own . It looks like the Mandos and the Verpine and other non-aligned worlds are signing non-aggression pacts to protect themselves from all sides.

5) ??? Sorry, I don't recognize the name offhand.

 

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YodaKenobi  11629 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:33pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
lol @ the people insisting it would be Luke laugh

 

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Gloria  1261 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:34pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Any news on Jaina and her boys? batting Or any news on Jaina at all? tongue

 

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Jaina_SoIo  178 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:35pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Turr Phennir, arch-rival of Wedge Antilles, was the guy responsible for the trap Jacen fell into on Corellia in Exile?

Sooooooo... How about them other characters... *coughJainacough*

 

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000  4729 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:38pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Much appreciated, Patchworkz. happy

Phennir's the head of the Confederation (or is it Corellian League now?) military in Exile-- but if there isn't any fleet action, he won't be in it anyway.

YodaKenobi: I didn't really think Luke would die. tongue

 

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patchworkz7  3179 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:38pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Jaina_SoIo posted:
Turr Phennir, arch-rival of Wedge Antilles, was the guy responsible for the trap Jacen fell into on Corellia in Exile?

Sooooooo... How about them other characters... *coughJainacough*


I'm blanking at the moment. She's in it, and I remember a conversation she has with Mara about her love life and her responsibilities to the Jedi, but I can't remember specifics.

Hopefully someone else can remember exactly what the context is.

 

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patchworkz7  3179 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:40pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 5/18/07 2:52pm (1 edits total) Edited By: patchworkz7
000 posted:
Much appreciated, Patchworkz. happy

Phennir's the head of the Confederation (or is it Corellian League now?) military in Exile-- but if there isn't any fleet action, he won't be in it anyway.

YodaKenobi: I didn't really think Luke would die. tongue


I used "Corellian League" because I couldn't remember if there was someone in charge of the Confederation military seperate from Gerjin or whatever the name of the guy who had Solo kill Thacken in BLOODLINES and wanted to be clear who I was talking about.

Edit:
It's Dur Gejjin that I was talking about.

 

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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:40pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
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DarthMane2 posted:
Which one wears the pink Glamdalorian armor? happy


*fixed*


Wow. I totally need to be a Glamdalorian. My life had no purpose before this moment.

In any case, Quiet_Mandalorian's head will explode. I can't wait.

 

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Gloria  1261 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:41pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
patchworkz7 posted:
Jaina_SoIo posted:
Turr Phennir, arch-rival of Wedge Antilles, was the guy responsible for the trap Jacen fell into on Corellia in Exile?

Sooooooo... How about them other characters... *coughJainacough*


I'm blanking at the moment. She's in it, and I remember a conversation she has with Mara about her love life and her responsibilities to the Jedi, but I can't remember specifics.



I'm getting tired of the authors not doing anything with her. Jacen has this huge story, falling to the dark side, murdering all kinds of people, doing all sorts of mean and nasty, ugly things. And Jaina... has a trail of boyfriends.

I mean, I'm not going to lie, her romantic angle is fun to read, but I wish she would do something! frustrated

But thanks. happy

 

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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:41pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 5/18/07 2:42pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rouge77
Another (relatively) important death?! Now that is interesting - considering the situation in the war - that they kill that character this early... thinking

 

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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:43pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!

The Emperor's Hands are dead, dead, dead. devil

 

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patchworkz7  3179 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:48pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Gloria posted:

I'm getting tired of the authors not doing anything with her. Jacen has this huge story, falling to the dark side, murdering all kinds of people, doing all sorts of mean and nasty, ugly things. And Jaina... has a trail of boyfriends.

I mean, I'm not going to lie, her romantic angle is fun to read, but I wish she would do something! frustrated

But thanks. happy


Sorry, I'm at work and literally blanking on some things. I had to think about it for a moment and she's in the book quite a bit, has a long talk with Mara about her boyfriends and responsibilities as a Jedi, a nice heart to heart as well as helping Luke try to track down Mara and, iirc, is at Luke's side when he finds out that Mara has died.

Earlier in the novel she is very much a part of the discussions about how to hunt the Siths, Lumiya and Alema, down and what to do about Jacen.

So, she's actually in the novel quite a bit, but as more of a supporting character, but she's very, very much a part of the novel and is a great help to both Luke and Mara throughout the book.

There's also a council session on what to do about Jacen. I dimly remember that it's interrupted by Mara returning from having fought Lumiya and the session being called because Mara is wounded and Luke needs to spend time with her and debrief her over how her hunting went.

Hope that helps.

 

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Date Posted: 5/18/07 2:48pm Subject: RE: The Official Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Is Roganda still about?

 

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