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BobaMatt  14519 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 7:54am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Jedimarine posted:
1) fanon as canon is just a reality of life...look at mustafar! If Lucas decided to do anything different in "making" Vader, the entire population of Star Wars fans would've screamed "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and rock the world with the vibration of our lament. I mean, I know people who were mad that Anakin didn't fall "in"...like 20 years of fanon had promised.

How is this fanon? The story's always been that Anakin got knocked into a volcano by Obi-Wan Kenobi.

 

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MarcusP2  12755 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 8:29am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Yeah, weren't his recollections of lava crawling up his spine or something in one of the OT novels?

 

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HedecGa  1207 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 8:57am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
IIRC, Vader falling in the lava was also on the toys boxes, right? Right up there with the stormtroopers being clones? I remember talking about that back in 1995 and that was before I'd ever read an EU book (late bloomer over here). Where did that come from... thinking

As for the "fluff" in RPG books...heck, that's why I'd buy them. I'd LIKE to be a gamer, but me and my friends don't have the attention span for it. We're more Munchkin speed people wink But getting more source information on the EU is always awesome.

 

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BobaMatt  14519 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 9:09am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
HedecGa posted:
IIRC, Vader falling in the lava was also on the toys boxes, right? Right up there with the stormtroopers being clones? I remember talking about that back in 1995 and that was before I'd ever read an EU book (late bloomer over here). Where did that come from... thinking

The clone thing came from source material that was out long before there was even such a thing as an EU. I remember seeing scans of an ancient British magazine article about stormtroopers. The Vader thing comes from the RotJ screenplay.
HedecGa posted:
As for the "fluff" in RPG books...heck, that's why I'd buy them. I'd LIKE to be a gamer, but me and my friends don't have the attention span for it. We're more Munchkin speed people wink But getting more source information on the EU is always awesome.

^ Exactly his point.

 

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browwiw  532 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 10:46am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
BobaMatt posted:
I remember seeing scans of an ancient British magazine article about stormtroopers.

 

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Thrawn McEwok  13601 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 10:55am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it - Date Edited: 5/29/07 11:01am (2 edits total) Edited By: Thrawn McEwok
browwiw posted:
BobaMatt posted:
I remember seeing scans of an ancient British magazine article about stormtroopers.




Was that ever confirmed as canon? thinking

It also seems that RotS:ICS canonized a couple of things that Saxton had cited at SWTC, apparently not realising they were fanon: the "Imperator-class" designation and the Unification Wars...

*has a sudden horrified thought that the stormtroopers = clones idea came about through a similar route (though not necessarily via SWTC)*

One thing in support of it being part of George's plan is the fact that Fett, who seems with hindsight to have replaced Lando as the "last clone" in ESB, was originally identified as an Imperial supercommando...

Anyone...?

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Date Posted: 5/29/07 10:59am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
No. Never referenced, and not from a licensed source.

 
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browwiw  532 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 11:00am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
It doesn't matter, Paul. Now that it's posted here it gonna get seen. And its gonna get downloaded and forwarded and spread. Then it will become part of the Star Wars fandom collective unconscious.

 

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BobaMatt  14519 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 11:07am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Regardless, the idea that stormtroopers were clones wasn't simple fanon.

 

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Wrinty  203 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 11:36am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Can soeone please tell me what in the world is Trakata. I mean like describe it for me. Thanks.

 
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JediAlly  3308 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 11:41am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Wrinty posted:
Can soeone please tell me what in the world is Trakata. I mean like describe it for me. Thanks.


What he asked, plus who, if anyone, used it?

 

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BobaMatt  14519 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 11:42am Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Thrawn McEwok posted:
It also seems that RotS:ICS canonized a couple of things that Saxton had cited at SWTC, apparently not realising they were fanon: the "Imperator-class" designation and the Unification Wars...

Imperator-class appears in DL, which came out before the RotS: ICS, no?

 

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Thrawn McEwok  13601 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 12:11pm Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it - Date Edited: 5/29/07 12:15pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Thrawn McEwok
BobaMatt posted:
Imperator-class appears in DL, which came out before the RotS: ICS, no?


According to Wookieepedia, DL:TRoDV came out on November 22, 2005; RotS:ICS appeared on April 2, 2005...?

So... no? raised_brow

Wookieepedia could be wrong, though. Anyone? thinking

In general, I'm not sure how I feel about this sort of thing.

I think fanon nods can be absolutely fine at times (Stacey in Allegiance, for instance, or Trakata here), provided that they're well-handled and they don't conflict with canon...

But what is Trakata? I googled it, and it seems to involve leaving the lightsaber off until you actually attack...

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Wrinty  203 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 12:22pm Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
Thrawn McEwok posted:
BobaMatt posted:
Imperator-class appears in DL, which came out before the RotS: ICS, no?


According to Wookieepedia, DL:TRoDV came out on November 22, 2005; RotS:ICS appeared on April 2, 2005...?

So... no? raised_brow

Wookieepedia could be wrong, though. Anyone? thinking

In general, I'm not sure how I feel about this sort of thing.

I think fanon nods can be absolutely fine at times (Stacey in Allegiance, for instance, or Trakata here), provided that they're well-handled and they don't conflict with canon...

But what is Trakata? I googled it, and it seems to involve leaving the lightsaber off until you actually attack...

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So
luke used Trakata when he was sparring with Ben

 
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Rogue_Follower  8535 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/07 12:31pm Subject: RE: Trakata is now canon, believe it
I got the impression that Trakata was strategically switching the lightsaber on and off during a battle.

Say you're fighting a Not Nice Bad Guy in a lightsaber duel. He lunges at you and you turn your 'saber off at the exact right moment so that he overextends himself and falls right into your lightsaber hilt... which you then turn back on. Or you just walk into battle and turn your saber on... when the hilt is pointing at his chin. That sort of thing.

It does sound cool, but the fanon aspect tarnishes it a bit. This is why most authors try not to read fanfic.

 
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