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Volderon Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 7:53am Subject: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Ever since the Legacy of the Force book series have come out, I've been on various message boards and the majority want Luke to die...and I can't help but think, "why?" Killing off Luke is like killing off Yoda, it can't be done. Luke is the most powerful Jedi ever, he cannot die, he has the will of the force with him. Luke represents the full power of Anakin Skywalker if he stayed on the light side. If I see Jacen kill Luke, I'm done with the Expanded Universe. I'll also be done with it if he "sacrifices" himself to save another person. It's been done before with Obi-Wan...anyways that's my rant... -----signature----- Why... so... serious? It's all... part of the plan - The Joker Sometimes, for the dream to live...the dreamer must die. - Darth Wyyrlok
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:05am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Well Yoda WAS killed off. Basically, a lot of people feel that Luke Skywalker has become a bit like Chief Sitting Bull. An odd comparison but effectively, the once great Indian Leader effectively gets trotted out everytime someone needs cash. No one apparently has any new stories for Luke Skywalker since the past 20 or so book have Luke meandering about and looking ignorant or misguided. He's just there as a marketing gimmick. Since the Next Generation grew up, they're like the Hardy Boys where Dad looks like an idiot by being constantly shown up by his kids. Yet, the Next Generation can never truly come into its own because fans expect a certain amount of page time devoted to Luke despite the fact that they usually only have him sleeping or commenting on Ben. It's a rather undignified end for a man that saved the galaxy on many an occasion as the Star of his own books and comic series.
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Kaziel Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:06am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Well he may not die in LOTF, but Luke will die eventually. I mean, yeah, he's powerful. There's no one contesting that, but he's still only human. And I just don't really see them giving him a peaceful death. It would be nice, but I would be surprised if it happened... As for why... he's been running around saving the galaxy (and I do mean that literally) for over 40 years. He's due for a rest, but it seems like both the the authors believe Luke would be unable to take an active role unless necessary, so he remains fully active. If he would just sit back and play the "Wise, venerable Jedi Master" guy, I'd be fine, but that doesn't seem likely. And one way or another, he deserves a rest.
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Volderon Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:09am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	I understand that he needs to die...but I want him to go out peacefully like Yoda did. I don't want anyone to kill him, because that would just be stupid. -----signature----- Why... so... serious? It's all... part of the plan - The Joker Sometimes, for the dream to live...the dreamer must die. - Darth Wyyrlok
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Jedimarine Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:11am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	I just want him to stop...to retire...but that will not happen unless he dies...he's to easy a cash cow for them to willingly retire. EVEN DEAD, he appears as a force ghost already. It simply is the only way for Star Wars to get past him. -----signature----- So Devaronian females are suppose to have thick fur, eh? Has anyone seen one outside an essential guide? ... When even the creative teams refuse to make fuzzy Devaronians...it should be a clue, folks. Thus endeth the lesson.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:12am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Kaziel posted: As for why... he's been running around saving the galaxy (and I do mean that literally) for over 40 years. He's due for a rest, but it seems like both the the authors believe Luke would be unable to take an active role unless necessary, so he remains fully active. If he would just sit back and play the "Wise, venerable Jedi Master" guy, I'd be fine, but that doesn't seem likely. And one way or another, he deserves a rest. Well it's the problem of the fact that he's not a character that would. It's like everyone keeps trying to turn him into Yoda when he's Anakin Skywalker's son. It's like trying to make Batman happy go lucky, it's POSSIBLE to write him that way but there's something wrong with this picture. Yoda was a man that enjoyed teaching, introspection, and relaxing with his glimmer stick amongst the children. Luke still loves taking his lightsaber out and owning the bad guy's ass. He's Mace Windu and you can't imagine Mace Windu staying out of it can you?
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Kaziel Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:13am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Volderon posted: I understand that he needs to die...but I want him to go out peacefully like Yoda did. I don't want anyone to kill him, because that would just be stupid. The biggest problem with that is that in order to justify a 60 year old Luke running around saving the galaxy like he's still 30, as everyone has said "60 is the new 40", and from what I've gathered here and there, people live until there early hundreds? So Luke is unlikely to die peacefully for another 50-60 years. So it's either they retire him (as already stated the authors seem unwilling to let him just be a cool guy in the background) or he has to be killed off. Yes it sucks.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:15am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Kaziel posted: Volderon posted: I understand that he needs to die...but I want him to go out peacefully like Yoda did. I don't want anyone to kill him, because that would just be stupid. The biggest problem with that is that in order to justify a 60 year old Luke running around saving the galaxy like he's still 30, as everyone has said "60 is the new 40", and from what I've gathered here and there, people live until there early hundreds? So Luke is unlikely to die peacefully for another 50-60 years. So it's either they retire him (as already stated the authors seem unwilling to let him just be a cool guy in the background) or he has to be killed off. Yes it sucks. Why not let it be? Luke Skywalker continues around like Qui Gon Jinn, kicking ass and taking names. Let the next Generation go study poetry or something. Leave the fighting to General Patton with a lightsaber.
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Kaziel Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:18am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Charlemagne19 posted: Why not let it be? Luke Skywalker continues around like Qui Gon Jinn, kicking ass and taking names. Let the next Generation go study poetry or something. Leave the fighting to General Patton with a lightsaber. We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I think he should retire (along with Leia and Han) and be the venerated old master and give the lime light to the new generation (and expand that group). You think he should keep kicking ass and taking names. As their both are opinions I doubt we'll convince the other that we're right, so just agree to disagree.
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Volderon Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:25am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die? - Date Edited: 7/23/07 8:25am (1 edits total) Edited By: Volderon
	But now we also have the Legacy comic series. And it shows Luke dead and so we now have a timeline to work. (Although I think the comic series is crap-the sith are back AGAIN? Yeah right...) -----signature----- Why... so... serious? It's all... part of the plan - The Joker Sometimes, for the dream to live...the dreamer must die. - Darth Wyyrlok
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masterpinky0509 Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:26am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	I think there's also the sense of his effect on characters surrounding him... In LOTF, we'll probably see: 1) Jaina step out of his shadow and fulfill the Sword of the Jedi claim by taking her brother to school. Afterwards, she will be the most powerful Jedi in terms of combat ability. 2) Ben finally reconcile himself with his family and the burden of being a Skywalker. He'll understand why Luke has done what he has done, and they will accept each other. 3) Mastership of the Jedi Order as a whole might eventually be handed over to someone else, someone who is more like Yoda and less like Anakin Skywalker--a true long-term thinker and philosopher. Luke's really a very good sword, as his father was and as his nephew Anakin was as well. Once all those three are fulfilled, which seems to be the direction the series is going in, then Luke's affairs are settled for him to go bye-bye. Besides, Mara's gone now, and since I stand on the side that she was really The One for Luke, I'm not sure that he'll really want to survive her for too long. Might pull a Ben Kenobi thing and sacrifice himself to Jacen, letting the younger generation take him out.
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Volderon Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:32am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	But is there really going to BE a younger generation after this series? Jacen could die, and I don't think I'd want to see him redeemed, and I know I wouldn't want books to be dedicated about Zekk and Jaina. Too bad they killed Anakin...if they didn't then I could see them killing off Luke. -----signature----- Why... so... serious? It's all... part of the plan - The Joker Sometimes, for the dream to live...the dreamer must die. - Darth Wyyrlok
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Jedimarine Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 7/23/07 8:39am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Volderon posted: But is there really going to BE a younger generation after this series? Jacen could die, and I don't think I'd want to see him redeemed, and I know I wouldn't want books to be dedicated about Zekk and Jaina. Too bad they killed Anakin...if they didn't then I could see them killing off Luke. honestly, I think that is part of Legacy...I don't believe we are going to see a complete filling up the Legacy...at least not in the immediate...and MOST of that will be retroactive in continuity as Legacy needs to explain the origins of new characters, free from a backstory. Now certainly, there will be more books, especially since nobody else important will die in LOTF. But I don't anticipate the next contract for books to go much further along the existing timeline...10 years...maybe 20...the rest belongs to Legacy. -----signature----- So Devaronian females are suppose to have thick fur, eh? Has anyone seen one outside an essential guide? ... When even the creative teams refuse to make fuzzy Devaronians...it should be a clue, folks. Thus endeth the lesson.
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Whizkid Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 7/23/07 9:06am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Kaziel posted: Volderon posted: I understand that he needs to die...but I want him to go out peacefully like Yoda did. I don't want anyone to kill him, because that would just be stupid. The biggest problem with that is that in order to justify a 60 year old Luke running around saving the galaxy like he's still 30, as everyone has said "60 is the new 40", and from what I've gathered here and there, people live until there early hundreds? So Luke is unlikely to die peacefully for another 50-60 years. So it's either they retire him (as already stated the authors seem unwilling to let him just be a cool guy in the background) or he has to be killed off. Yes it sucks. Count Dooku was active in his early-mid eighties. Luke is significantly more powerful than Dooku. I say let Luke be active and lead the Jedi until he's 85 or so, then have him retire, write his memoirs, and go on a galaxy wide speaking tour, and eventually die in peace. -----signature----- "Only a Sith deals in Absolutes" "Do, or do not. There is no try"
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Jaina_Skylar Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 9:57am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die? - Date Edited: 7/23/07 9:58am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jaina_Skylar
	"Count Dooku was active in his early-mid eighties. Luke is significantly more powerful than Dooku. I say let Luke be active and lead the Jedi until he's 85 or so, then have him retire, write his memoirs, and go on a galaxy wide speaking tour, and eventually die in peace." Count Dooku: Evil... why are you comparing him to Luke? Luke: Very, very powerful, agreed. Die in peace? What are you smoking! And why aren't you SHARING!!! ^_^ But come on... having Luke die pitifully in his sleep like some old geezer would just be so dull! Come on! If he's gonna go, it's gonna be battling for something or someone he believes in.
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Volderon Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/23/07 10:06am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
	Jaina_Skylar posted: "Count Dooku was active in his early-mid eighties. Luke is significantly more powerful than Dooku. I say let Luke be active and lead the Jedi until he's 85 or so, then have him retire, write his memoirs, and go on a galaxy wide speaking tour, and eventually die in peace." Count Dooku: Evil... why are you comparing him to Luke? Luke: Very, very powerful, agreed. Die in peace? What are you smoking! And why aren't you SHARING!!! ^_^ But come on... having Luke die pitifully in his sleep like some old geezer would just be so dull! Come on! If he's gonna go, it's gonna be battling for something or someone he believes in. But if we goes out in a blaze of glory it's not right...he is the most powerful jedi ever, and seeing him die in combat would be weak. -----signature----- Why... so... serious? It's all... part of the plan - The Joker Sometimes, for the dream to live...the dreamer must die. - Darth Wyyrlok
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