Author Topic: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 7/31/07 2:08am Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
StaryKnight posted:


And do you consider that a bad thing, cause some people do? Not alot though.


I don't. I consider it pretty much how I expect Luke to die.

Either Luke should receive the full on King Arthur treatment, he gets on the Outbound Flight II when he's dying and leaves the galaxy so we never know WHAT happens and there's always the chance that he'll come back from the darkness in the hour of the galaxy's greatest need.

Or he should be a hero right up until the end.

I'd like to see him live to an extraordinarily old age but I don't think that it's a good thing that he dies in his bed because Luke's goal is not peace for himself, it's peace for the galaxy. I also don't think that any enemy should have the satisfaction of being the one to kill Luke Skywalker.

 

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Dawud786  2654 posts
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Date Posted: 7/31/07 7:00pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Charlemagne19 posted:
StaryKnight posted:


And do you consider that a bad thing, cause some people do? Not alot though.


I don't. I consider it pretty much how I expect Luke to die.

Either Luke should receive the full on King Arthur treatment, he gets on the Outbound Flight II when he's dying and leaves the galaxy so we never know WHAT happens and there's always the chance that he'll come back from the darkness in the hour of the galaxy's greatest need.

Or he should be a hero right up until the end.

I'd like to see him live to an extraordinarily old age but I don't think that it's a good thing that he dies in his bed because Luke's goal is not peace for himself, it's peace for the galaxy. I also don't think that any enemy should have the satisfaction of being the one to kill Luke Skywalker.



Where's this Outbound Flight II stuff coming from? Haha.

Seriously, if Luke's a superhero let him be a superhero and throw away the contrived caps on his strength in the Force and the wisdom he's gained because of that.

I'm currently reading the Hand of Thrawn and let me say this... the idea that Luke was doing crazy ish with the Force and using "too much" power too often is GREAT. It's precisely what's happened with Jacen, he uses too much power far too casually far too often and look where it's taken him! Same deal with Grampa Vader.

Luke should be able to do damn near everything... Maybe that's the problem authors are having, they are trying to write a superhero as not being a superhero. I don't want Luke to be omnipotent or anything, but c'mon Jacen's descent has been so transparent Luke still not having figured it out is just lame.

 

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OrriaSolo 
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 1:25pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Ok i know this is REALLY REALLY terrible of me but i want Jacen to KILL Luke. Not for Luke in particular but to see Jacen and what he will do. If he drops the lightsaber and looks at what he's done and just cries. It would be nice to see that Jacen still has some love left in him to understand that he's a jerk. But i love Luke Skywalker. (he's my uncle for peat sake. read my signature)If i saw him die at the hands of his nephew. I-I don't kno what i'd do. I (for real) would cry.

 

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Earthknight  3629 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 1:39pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Yes, let Caedus kill Luke so we can have a Caedus/Tahiri/Alema.vs.Ben/Jaina/Tenel Ka showdown.

 

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Jedi_Master_Bumfluff  61 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 2:17pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
All you Luke-needs-to-die fans are basically highlighting one important fact about star wars novels now...There is NO VARIETY! If we had other novels based around characters other than the 'big 3' you would not be whining that 'Luke needs to die, he needs to die now!!'

It's unfortunate that Del Ray are not allowing any other stories set in LOTF timeframe....Even if it is between DN and LOTF....

I find it a little disturbing that if someone thinks a character has no further use, you seem to go 'flush him, he's not useful anymore'

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 3:59pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
OrriaSolo posted:
Ok i know this is REALLY REALLY terrible of me but i want Jacen to KILL Luke. Not for Luke in particular but to see Jacen and what he will do. If he drops the lightsaber and looks at what he's done and just cries. It would be nice to see that Jacen still has some love left in him to understand that he's a jerk. But i love Luke Skywalker. (he's my uncle for peat sake. read my signature)If i saw him die at the hands of his nephew. I-I don't kno what i'd do. I (for real) would cry.


Given that Jacen killed Mara and tried to kill his parents, I don't see Jacen crying about killing Luke, especially not now that he's become Darth Caedus.

 

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DarthSanctimonious  812 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 4:47pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Because he needs killing.

Realistically, someone as stupid as Luke would have forgotten to breathe and suffocated about a quarter of the way through NJO.

 

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SephyCloneNo15  6880 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 6:34pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Charlemagne19 posted:
I think my general point is that Luke Skywalker was a 18 year old during the Galactic Civil War and Leia Organa was similiarly aged at the start.


I should hope they're similarly aged. They were born from the same womb a few seconds apart....

Chuck posted:
You'll pretty much have Luke pulled off a ditch somewhere in his 120s when his heart finally gives out, protecting some orphans.



Ooh, Del Rey, can we please have Luke die in a small act of kindness rather than some Galaxy-shaking act of heroism? I think that would be such a cool way for him to go.

 

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StaryKnight  1823 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 9:08pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
OrriaSolo posted:
Ok i know this is REALLY REALLY terrible of me but i want Jacen to KILL Luke. Not for Luke in particular but to see Jacen and what he will do. If he drops the lightsaber and looks at what he's done and just cries. It would be nice to see that Jacen still has some love left in him to understand that he's a jerk. But i love Luke Skywalker. (he's my uncle for peat sake. read my signature)If i saw him die at the hands of his nephew. I-I don't kno what i'd do. I (for real) would cry.


I wouldn't go wishing for things that would make you cry. Crying isn't alot of fun.

 

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StaryKnight  1823 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 9:14pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
DarthSanctimonious posted:
Because he needs killing.




No, he doesn't.

 

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000  4729 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 9:29pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
Jedi_Master_Bumfluff posted:
If we had other novels based around characters other than the 'big 3' you would not be whining that 'Luke needs to die, he needs to die now!!'

I would, yeah. My loathing of Luke doesn't stem from mere overexposure.

 

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rebel_cheese  2213 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 9:41pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
People want Luke to die because they feel it will allow the 'new generation' to finally take over.

I wish it was as easy as that.

 

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Jedi_Master_Bumfluff  61 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 10:03pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die? - Date Edited: 8/27/07 10:10pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Master_Bumfluff
000 posted:
Jedi_Master_Bumfluff posted:
If we had other novels based around characters other than the 'big 3' you would not be whining that 'Luke needs to die, he needs to die now!!'

I would, yeah. My loathing of Luke doesn't stem from mere overexposure.


Perhaps you need a new hobby tongue

EDIT: As much as I do not like what Jacen has become, he is really one of the ONLY 'next generation' characters to emerge from the shadows of those before him. It's not a case of killing off or removing the 'big 3' from the picture but rather focus on the adventures of the next gen. characters. An example of how it could be done is in 'I, Jedi' the story is about Corran Horn yet we have Luke in a scene or two throughout the book. He doesn't dominate, nor is his inclusion unnecessary, but it shows that a good Star Wars story can be created without the storyline revolving around the main characters we grew up with.

 

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OrriaSolo 
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 10:22pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
what i meant about jacen crying over luke was that maybe in killing luke (the whole blood on your hands thing) he would see that he has done so much wrong! he killed boba fetts daughter, nelani, and mara and like now luke he'd be saying to himself "oh my god what have i done! what have i become!"(reminiscent of anakin in ROTS) and see the error in his ways.

 

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StaryKnight  1823 posts
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Date Posted: 8/27/07 10:36pm Subject: RE: Why do people want Luke Skywalker to die?
^^Anakin killed by accident Padme and that didn't change him right away. If anything it will just cause Jacen to sink further into the darkness and then it will be up to Ben or Allana to redeem him when they grow up and thats just an OT rehash.

 

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