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Dussan Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:22am Subject: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	I knew Stover was awesome, but didn't think he was that awesome. How you can make a jedi that badass and still be a jedi... How is this novel regarded by most of the EU community? It's a bit bloody for a Star Wars book, and I don't think I have heard sex mentioned much less rape implications. So was it considered too dark?
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Jedimarine Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:29am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	Most people I know never even finished it. It's one of the few PT era books I own, I never got page 100 in 3 tries. Just never got me hooked. -----signature----- So Devaronian females are suppose to have thick fur, eh? Has anyone seen one outside an essential guide? ... When even the creative teams refuse to make fuzzy Devaronians...it should be a clue, folks. Thus endeth the lesson.
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Whizkid Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:41am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	It's generally well regarded, but I think it's the weakest of the 3 Stover SW novels. I still really enjoyed it; the worst of Stover is still really damn good. -----signature----- "Only a Sith deals in Absolutes" "Do, or do not. There is no try"
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rhonderoo Title: Former Head Admin Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:42am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	The only time I have ever liked Mace Windu. -----signature----- DT421 FYI: You don't deal with me. I deal with you. Damned right the Jedi's fire has gone out of the universe. I was the bad-ass Class C extinguisher who snuffed them. - @darthvader (Darth Vader on Twitter)
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Kwenn Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:44am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	First time I tried to read it, I gave up; to me, it just wasn't Star Wars. But once I'd read Traitor, I got Stover's style, and found Shatterpoint to be pretty darn awesome. It's great to find some relatively original takes on the Saga. 'Course, Shatterpoint pales in comparison to the RotS novelization -- but then, what doesn't? -----signature----- "A true Knight, Qui-Gon is. Forever on his own quest." - Yoda, Cloak of Deception
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ezekiel22x Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:48am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	I didn’t like it, as I only like books with fuzzy care bear robots and cozy tea parties and frolicking adventures through bubble fields of joy and love. -----signature----- Rollerball (1975) > Star Wars (1977)
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ausar_vos Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/2/07 10:59am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord... - Date Edited: 8/2/07 11:01am (1 edits total) Edited By: ausar_vos
	I found it to be one of the best SW novels I read in the PT era. I haven't read all of them. But of all the ones I read, I found it extraordinarely good... It gave me a whole new appreciation for Mace! Also, the perspective he brings to the CW is superb in bringing us deeper into the root causes of the war and palpatine's strategy for taking the Empire. A+ Shatterpoint rules! -----signature----- WHERE IS MY AUSAR_AUSET ICON!? That character is me!!
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wild_karrde Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 8/2/07 11:01am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	It's Apocalypse Now with lightsabers, what's not to like? -----signature----- Take me out to the black. Tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea. You can't take the sky from me. - from "The Ballad of Serenity" (Firefly)
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ThrawnRocks Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 8/2/07 11:02am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	Yeah, I liked it a lot. While it was Stover's weakest to date, it was still great, and it was nice to see the Shatterpoints come into play once again in the ROTS novel, also by Stover. And it was a lot more fun to read than Heart of Darkness -----signature----- My Icons: http://www.powow.com/thrawnrocks/icons.html Roan Fel's badassery knows no bounds. "The next Allston book should be all Syal and Myri, all the time." - Jello
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 8/2/07 11:04am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	While it was very gritty, Stover still made it work and feel like a SW story, as if Mace really was fighting to restore some snaity to things and bring it back to even the usual level of SW craziness. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Alpha-02 Registered: Nov '06	Date Posted: 8/2/07 11:24am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	I loved it, I would still put Traitor and RotS above it, but then again, I'd put them above pretty much all the EU novels so that doesn't really mean too much. I'm a huge Stover fan both EU and otherwise, I really like his style, it is very gritty and can sometimes be brutal, but it is his psychology and his ability to get right inside characters heads that I really love. Also, something that doesn't get mentioned so much, but his fight scenes are great as well, maybe it is because of the way he portrays his characters and gets into their heads, but you can really feel the effects of the battles both physically and psychologically. -----signature----- "As always, fat one, you have miscalculated. And while I find this small droid annoying to the extreme, I find my urge to shoot you takes a higher priority." The Eyes Of The Storm http://boards.theforce.net/before_the_saga/b10475/26974904
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ausar_vos Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/2/07 11:50am Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	Alpha-02 posted: maybe it is because of the way he portrays his characters and gets into their heads, but you can really feel the effects of the battles both physically and psychologically. that"s precisely what i loved about the novel: it digs down into the character's heads. Also, as first CW novel, I really feel it sets the tone for the beginning of the dark times. Ain't read RoTS yet, but can't wait to, I wonder how he potrays the Palp vs Windu battle from Mace's perspective in light of Shatterpoint. -----signature----- WHERE IS MY AUSAR_AUSET ICON!? That character is me!!
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 8/2/07 12:02pm Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	I used to be a Big Anti-Stover fan. Then I read Shatterpoint and Revenge of the Sith. What I love is the fact that he utterly contrasts Vegere/Jacen against Mace Windu. They have the same thoughts, ideas, and problems with the Force. ....And come to utterly different conclusions.
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Tricky Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 8/2/07 12:10pm Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	I also loved Shatterpoint, with a passion! It's much too often that reading SW EU feels like I'm reading Superman comix. The Jedi are cool & all, but I just can't really relate to these fantastic force powers they have, so it's why I gravitate towards books like Shatterpoint, SotE or the RC books. Shatter does a nice job of giving me the average citizens PoV of the SW galaxy & Stover is such a good author. Loved it man, too much love! -----signature----- "Six pints of bitter," said Ford Prefect to the barman of the Horse and Groom. "And quickly please, the world's about to end." We like to Suckadelic.com. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a wholly remarkable book
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The_Pantless_Wookiee Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 8/2/07 12:45pm Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord...
	I really liked it, it was one of my favorite SW novels actually. Kwenn posted: 'Course, Shatterpoint pales in comparison to the RotS novelization -- but then, what doesn't? Q.F.T. One of the most accurate statements I've ever heard.
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Jedi_Matt Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 8/2/07 1:15pm Subject: RE: Shatterpoint: Good lord... - Date Edited: 8/2/07 1:18pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Matt
	VVV Most of the text from my post disappeared, some of it can be found in the post below VVV -----signature----- Excellence - "'Cause some American-accent informed me Kun is Koon and Yun is Yoon doesn't mean I'm going to Megazord myself into robotic obediance."
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