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NeoStar9  2068 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 3:28pm Subject: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions? - Date Edited: 9/4/07 3:36pm (2 edits total) Edited By: NeoStar9
I'm curious, I have asked others in the SOS thread but curious about the Lit posters at large. What do you think of the series so far? The story, the characters, the art, writing, etc? How does it compare to the Legacy, Rebellion, or Knights of the Old Republic current comic series? Anything else you could say would be extremely helpful as well.

As this is the post-Clone Wars series, which was great from what I read (need to work on collecting more trades), I'm sure people had high expectations or perhaps low ones. Is it a good sequel to what took place before? To early to tell? Etc?

I'm planning on collecting comics now via trades as I don't like having to wait month after month to see the next part in a story. Rather just read an entire arc all at once. So I'll be picking this up (once it's in stock again at Amazon.com, wait is about a month I think now so I'll be getting Legacy and KOTOR at least for now) but in the meantime would still like to know others thoughts on the series so far.

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Tricky  5342 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 3:55pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
I got issue #3 as a tryout last month & I must say............


























...that I absolutely hated it. It's the art, it just doesn't work for me & in that particular issue there wasn't an obvious BIG BAD chasing the main Jedi character that is on the run but who has the time to stop & make some slavers pay for taking the kid of one of the alien crew members of his runaway ship. So no cool bad guy & terrible art has tanked Dark Times for me. Think I'll just stick to LEGACY, Conan & Repo from Darkhorse & stay happy.

 

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Corran_Fett  3100 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 4:04pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions? - Date Edited: 9/4/07 4:06pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Corran_Fett
NeoStar9 posted:
[...] the art, [...]
raised_brow You're serious? It's Doug Wheatley, man, one reason alone to buy this comic series.

Another one would be the wide variety of "underrated" alien species we're seeing there. And the fact that this really feels like Star Wars, like the OT. I think it's more than on par with Legacy, a bit better than Rebellion and for me, personally, a good bit better than KotOR.

Tricky posted:
It's the art,
shock Blasphemy! talk_hand

 

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Zorrixor  4299 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 4:27pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
I'm enjoying it. If I were to rate the current comic series I'd probably put them:

1. Legacy
2. KotOR
3. Dark Times
4. Rebellion

That's not to say I dislike any of them, just that it's my personal preference. I'm a Jedi and Sith person, so Legacy and KotOR do it for me. I'm somewhat bored of the classic era stuff, so I'm not overly thrilled by Rebellion. It's one of the better series set during that period but the plot hasn't really gotten going enough for me yet to really immerse myself in it. I like the art for Dark Times, I like the fact we're exploring something new, i.e. "what happened to the Jedi who didn't die?" and I like the actual story so far.

The only thing I'm uncertain of with Dark Times is where the story is going. It's good in a "side plot" sort of way but I'm not feeling the "wow" of the events in Legacy and KotOR. That may be the idea -- that it's a more "personal" voyage -- but currently I confess the plot just isn't as gripping for me as the other two series. That's not to say its bad, per se, just that it's different.

I would say give it a go and read the first issue at least. I'm not sure when the TPB is out for you to skim it in a library or something. It's a good series but you have to be in a different sort of "mood" than for Legacy or KotOR as it's (currently at least) a different sort of story.

 

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Tricky  5342 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 4:32pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions? - Date Edited: 9/4/07 4:36pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Tricky
Corran_Fett posted:
Tricky posted:
It's the art,
shock Blasphemy! talk_hand


I got issue #4 last month, not 3.

My opinion & an ant farm is worth about a quarter! Anyways, I guess I've just been spoiled by reading stuff from what I consider better artists so's I'd be comparing them to this Wheatley character & he'd end up coming short. I do think he does a good Vader, troopers, aliens & space ships but that he's not so good on human faces imo. It's like I'd see this girl crew member in one panel & then think I see another different girl in the next panel & then feel stupid cause it's supposed to be the same person. Dass Jennir, while being what seems like a 30'sish guy with white hair, has a face that seems to flip back & forth between really really old man & 30ish younger man all thru the comic. I can't get down with no comic that has an old geezer as the main char of the story.

I'll give it another try this month tho, see if I feel any different about it. I've read other threads 'about Dark Times & what do people think of it', people do seem to generally like it so it was off of their recommendations that I picked it up in the 1st place.

 

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ThrawnRocks  14867 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 5:34pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
I can actually see someone not liking Doug's art. There are a few small things about it that annoy me, such as his hair, but my problems with the art are very few and far between, and greatly overshadowed by his overall realism, attention to detail, and his brilliant use of many different aliens in the background, using either underused aliens, or giving us a new take on other aliens.

So in other words, I feel there are a few cons, but there are so many pros to his artwork, that the things that annoy me are easily ignorable.

 

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Ulicus  7359 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 5:42pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
I'm really enjoying the series so far - Vader's made too many appearances for me not to - and I love the art.

 

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Date Posted: 9/4/07 6:18pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
I've really dug the series- Doug's art is just so ridiculously incredible that it borders on photo-real at times, plus he tends to make very detailed environemnts that make the worlds visited feel very much full of life and actvity. Also has a good little ragtag group of characters that will be quite inetresting to eventually delve into.

 

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Galactica500  213 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 7:31pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions? - Date Edited: 9/4/07 7:33pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Galactica500
The art is mind blowing so far.

Edit: I'd like two a month to come out until it catches up though sad

 

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Kaje  1799 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 8:18pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
The art is really good. I prefer Jan Duursema and Dustin Weaver, but Wheatley is damn good too. I too really like the use of long-ignored alien species, and I like the characters and story quite a lot. Someone mentioned that they couldn't see where the story was going and that it seemed like a side-story, and I believe that's because Dark Times, like Rebellion, is going for a bunch of mildly interlinked mini-series rather than the big epic meta-arcs of Legacy and KotOR.

Gotta say though, I'd like this series a helluva lot more if it was released more often than once every 4 months.

 

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NJOfan215  6053 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 8:48pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
Dark Times is a good series. It would be better if it came out on time. Doug's art is awesome. I think the story is a good continuation of the republic period.

 

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Joser_Kyind  1269 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 8:58pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
DH has said that Dark Times will be coming out regularly from now on. The previous delays were due to Mr. Wheatley's wife giving birth, and all that such things entail.

 

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Date Posted: 9/4/07 9:09pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
i'm enjoying Dark Times. the storyline is good stuff.

 

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Kaje  1799 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 9:15pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
Joser_Kyind posted:
DH has said that Dark Times will be coming out regularly from now on. The previous delays were due to Mr. Wheatley's wife giving birth, and all that such things entail.
They said it was going to be coming out regularly starting with #4, which was till very much delayed. As has #5 been.

 

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Carnage04  4905 posts
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Date Posted: 9/4/07 11:19pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?


I personally like Dark Times but I admit that it probably isn't for everything. A few things to consider.

- I think the art is really good. Large, brilliant spreads with a lot of different characters/ships/buildings/whatever.
- There is a really good variety of different alien species. I enjoy seeing non humans mixed in doing cool things.
- The general story is not epic in scale. It's just kind of an interesting romp around the galaxy with characters that are likely to be of no consequence to any future tales (Although K'Kruhk is going to be appearing down the road I believe.) If you need your stories to be about the fate of the galaxy hanging in the balance, you are unlikely to enjoy it. If you just like seeing little "Side Tales" of obscure characters, you'll like it.
- It is exploring a rather unexplored era, giving a feel as to how the galaxy was after RoTS. Pretty cool. It also gives us some idea of Vader and Palpatine's early interactions as Sith Master and Apprentice.
- The delays are insane. I get excited about it every time an issue comes out, I read it and then......I forget about it. It's really hard to get it rolling when four issues a year are popping out. I understand the artist had a child born but to be honest.....I think Dark Horse probably should have had another artist fill in while he took time off. I think it has hurt the series immensely that it is so inconsistent.

 

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Date Posted: 9/4/07 11:55pm Subject: RE: Star Wars: Dark Times.....opinions?
Zorrixor posted:

The only thing I'm uncertain of with Dark Times is where the story is going. It's good in a "side plot" sort of way but I'm not feeling the "wow" of the events in Legacy and KotOR. That may be the idea -- that it's a more "personal" voyage -- but currently I confess the plot just isn't as gripping for me as the other two series. That's not to say its bad, per se, just that it's different.


I would have to say a contributing factor to some of the people's uncertainty to it has been Dark Horse's decision to alternate between Rebellion and Dark Times. With the frequency of the issues cut down I think it does have some adverse effects on the reader’s ability to immerse themselves within the story.

Don't get me wrong I certainly understand why they've opted for this approach, and I guess two alternating series may be better than one continuous one. But there's much less material there and it takes much longer to explore in this format. I myself normally give any new series at least several arcs to see if it perks up before ultimately deciding whether or not to stick with it, unfortunately this’ll take a year+ to do for Dark Times.

The delays certainly haven't helped much either, kind of ironic considering the leapfrogging approach means there's actually less work to do when compared to Legacy and KOTOR.

Tricky posted:
...that I absolutely hated it. It's the art, it just doesn't work for me & in that particular issue there wasn't an obvious BIG BAD chasing the main Jedi character that is on the run but who has the time to stop & make some slavers pay for taking the kid of one of the alien crew members of his runaway ship. So no cool bad guy & terrible art has tanked Dark Times for me. Think I'll just stick to LEGACY, Conan & Repo from Darkhorse & stay happy.


Ultimately, the art shouldn’t be an issue for whether you stick with this series or not because they’re changing artists for the next arc.

 

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