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Sikon  907 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 8:47am Subject: How Malak lost his jaw - Date Edited: 9/9/07 8:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: Sikon
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beccatoria  1918 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 10:27am Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
The timeline, as I understand it from having played KotOR 1, is that immediately after being defeated as a Sith, Revan is captured by the strike-force that included Bastila and subsequently mind-wiped by the council.

So we have four options:

a) Revan injured Malak when they were both Jedi (in which case it was presumably some sort of horrific accident). Which strikes me as not too likely.

b) Malak fell to the dark side before Revan and they battled prior to Revan's fall - which doesn't really make too much sense because then why would Malak have consented to be the apprentice rather than the master, even if Revan did have more raw power, it's not like a Sith Lord to relinquish any power. Though again, I suppose if the fight was what was converted Revan, and he kicked Malak's ***, that could explain it. Still, I think, unlikely.

c) Revan fell first and inflicted the injury on Malak when the then-Jedi-Malak tried to challenge him, he was defeated and Revan turned him as Malak later turned Bastila. Possible. Though the way the game phrases it makes it sound like it was a joint decision to become Sith rather than one corrupting the other. Still, the game definitely leaves it open to interpretation.

d) A fight when they were both Sith; possibly even the fight that determined Revan would be the master and Malak the apprentice?

I think on balance, I choose c) or d), most likely d)?

 

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Havac  14251 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 10:34am Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
The first game emphasizes very strongly that Malak adored Revan and followed him into the dark side, so I'd think the best explanation would be either in a duel to determine supremacy, or in a duel very early on after Malak got cold feel and tried to pull back -- the Dantooine flashback clearly shows he wasn't as eager as Revan, even if he was willing to follow him.

 

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wild_karrde  27755 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 11:30am Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
He had his jaw during the Dantooine flashback, so he lost it sometime after that.

 

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Dawud786  2654 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 11:45am Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw - Date Edited: 9/9/07 11:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: Dawud786
Bar fight in a cantina on Korriban.

BTW, when do the Revan and Malak figures come out? I want them so badly, but I'm afraid some jerk ass is going to go to Target or where ever and buy them all then charge and arm and a leg for them on his ebay store. I hate these guys. It's enough to turn me to the dark side.

It seems now that "Revan" and "Malak" are not the actual names of the Jedi these men were before becoming Sith.

 

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SephyCloneNo15  6880 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 12:44pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
one of the Kyle Katarn Facts Threads posted:
Tenel Ka lost her arm because she tried to give Kyle Katarn a handjob.

Darth Malak tried to give him a bl...you get the picture.


tongue

 

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Ulicus  7359 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 1:04pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
When did Revan strike off Malak's jaw? Well... Malak is referred to in the opening crawl as "the last surviving" apprentice of Revan.

So my guess is that he's the only one that Revan spared after they attempted to overthrow him.

This has the nice side-effect of meaning that Revan learned the "one apprentice to each master" lesson he teaches Bane firsthand, and that he is referring to himself as having been a fool. Which I like.

 

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Lord_Vivec  17949 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 2:21pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw - Date Edited: 9/9/07 2:23pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Lord_Vivec
SephyCloneNo15 posted:
one of the Kyle Katarn Facts Threads posted:
Tenel Ka lost her arm because she tried to give Kyle Katarn a handjob.

Darth Malak tried to give him a bl...you get the picture.


tongue

laugh


Actually, this is more likely: My Stupid Mouth

 

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Sauron_18  3594 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 2:38pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
Ulicus posted:
When did Revan strike off Malak's jaw? Well... Malak is referred to in the opening crawl as "the last surviving" apprentice of Revan.

So my guess is that he's the only one that Revan spared after they attempted to overthrow him.

This has the nice side-effect of meaning that Revan learned the "one apprentice to each master" lesson he teaches Bane firsthand, and that he is referring to himself as having been a fool. Which I like.

Now that sounds very interesting indeed.

 

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Cobranaconda  21613 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 3:09pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
Pfft, I still think my version is the best.

Hehe tongue

 

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Zorrixor  4304 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 3:17pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
Sauron_18 posted:
Ulicus posted:
When did Revan strike off Malak's jaw? Well... Malak is referred to in the opening crawl as "the last surviving" apprentice of Revan.

So my guess is that he's the only one that Revan spared after they attempted to overthrow him.

This has the nice side-effect of meaning that Revan learned the "one apprentice to each master" lesson he teaches Bane firsthand, and that he is referring to himself as having been a fool. Which I like.

Now that sounds very interesting indeed.

Agreed. I really like that idea.

 

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Havac  14251 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 4:27pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
I, also, remain desperate for that obscure opening scroll line to be ruthlessly exploited.

 

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Dawud786  2654 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 6:39pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
Still not answer on when those figs come out? I need to know what days I should be looking to be at the store with lightsaber ignited to de-jaw any scalpers trying to get them jawns before I do...

 

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ThrawnRocks  14867 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 7:16pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
Somehow, I've felt that this was implied the entire time, though I don't remember any clear evidence of it.

 

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Sikon  907 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 7:25pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
As for Malak falling to the dark side before Revan... I doubt it. In the Dantooine flashback, it is Malak who has doubts about the Star Forge. Besides, when you defeat Malak in the end, one of the available options is something like: "I'm sorry I pushed you onto this path. But you chose to continue down it."

 

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Vengance1003  5056 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/07 7:39pm Subject: RE: How Malak lost his jaw
I would have guessed that Revan punished Malak for failing something; like what Palpatine did to Vader's hand.

 

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