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Galactica500 Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 9/17/07 7:30pm Subject: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	I've been reading a couple of Empire TPB's and enjoying them. Luke is fresh faced and the arc's in Empire 6 and 7 were good with great art but Luke seems far more in tune with the Force than he was in the movies. While protecting slaves in Empire 7 Luke deflects blaster fire, does some acrobatics and takes out about 5 or 6 stormtroopers in a flash with his lightsaber. I must say it took a bit of air out of how much fun I was having with the story cause Luke wasn't that powerful before Yoda. This is set just ABY, right? If he can do what he did there it should have been a snap summoning the lightsaber to his hand in the ice cave in ESB.
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 9/17/07 7:44pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Blocking blaster bolts and telekinesis are separate skills. The first would seem to require a certain heightened sense of his surroundings brought on by danger, while the later would seem to require more calm concentration. What's more, Luke was deflecting blaster bolts in ANH. Remember Obi-Wan's remote? -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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MistrX Registered: Jun '06	Date Posted: 9/17/07 10:07pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	I would think that if he was that good at blocking blaster bolts at that point, he would have pulled his lightsaber instead of his blaster out while he was in Cloud City. -----signature----- We are well and truly forked
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 9/17/07 11:07pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	You can't shoot people with a lightsaber. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?"
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 9/17/07 11:15pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	MistrX posted: I would think that if he was that good at blocking blaster bolts at that point, he would have pulled his lightsaber instead of his blaster out while he was in Cloud City. I think there is probably a huge jump from simply blocking blaster bolts to actually redirecting the at the bad guys. Luke could probably have deflected them but he figured he may need to do some damage so he used the wall for deflection and his own blaster for shooting. -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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kttch809 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 9/17/07 11:41pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion - Date Edited: 9/17/07 11:43pm (2 edits total) Edited By: kttch809
	BobaMatt posted: Blocking blaster bolts and telekinesis are separate skills. The first would seem to require a certain heightened sense of his surroundings brought on by danger, while the later would seem to require more calm concentration. What's more, Luke was deflecting blaster bolts in ANH. Remember Obi-Wan's remote? I get the impression that Luke was not confident in his telekinetic abilities prior to Splinter of the Mind's Eye (which appears to take place at least a year after Empire Volumes 6 and 7. During the prison break in that book, he says that he's "no good at this" when Halla tells him to use the Force to maneuver a food plate in front of an optical device. -----signature----- "The Force is a superstition, a myth people swear by. It's used to frighten children." -Luke Skywalker
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MistrX Registered: Jun '06	Date Posted: 9/17/07 11:55pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Then again, thinking about it a bit more, that is one of the first things he learns. -----signature----- We are well and truly forked
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 9/18/07 2:51am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Telekinesis likely requires mental focus which is a bit hard to do in a freezing cave. -----signature----- Excellence: "You are the forum's Quick Ben." SW EU fans: John Ostrander needs your help! http://www.comix4sight.com
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Jedimarine Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 9/18/07 5:18am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Ask Corran Horn. Reflexes seem to be something force sensitives pick up almost unconsciously as they develop...with only marginal training, quick reflexes like those needed for blaster deflection could be proficient. telekinesis on the other end of the spectrum is something not all force users develop and even powerful ones can have trouble with. It's a skill that has no unconscious sparking, as the unconscious would tend to follow the rules of gravity and natural motion they've experienced their whole lives. Perhaps telekinesis is one the reasons Jedi want children so young for training...so they grow up in a world where moving stuff with your mind is not out of the ordinary. -----signature----- So Devaronian females are suppose to have thick fur, eh? Has anyone seen one outside an essential guide? ... When even the creative teams refuse to make fuzzy Devaronians...it should be a clue, folks. Thus endeth the lesson.
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Galactica500 Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 9/18/07 5:47am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	What was off to me wasn't even the telekinesis. There is very little of it. It was the moment of form IV acrobatics and snap hissing his lightsaber to life while upside down. He was using telekinesis on himself and dodges the blaster fire of three troopers as he's in mid air. He then takes them out with very little effort. He does also manage to not only deflect blaster bolts but it at least he appeared to direct a ricochet hitting "Tank". (Though actually hitting Tank may have been an accident.)
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Jedimarine Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 9/18/07 7:13am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Perhaps take it as Luke's adrenaline rush triggering skills he didn't realize he had. Perhaps afterward he's thinking "how did I do that!" He can act in the heat of the moment...but it will take his Yoda training before he can call on such skill at a whim. -----signature----- So Devaronian females are suppose to have thick fur, eh? Has anyone seen one outside an essential guide? ... When even the creative teams refuse to make fuzzy Devaronians...it should be a clue, folks. Thus endeth the lesson.
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 9/18/07 8:28am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Jedimarine posted: Perhaps telekinesis is one the reasons Jedi want children so young for training...so they grow up in a world where moving stuff with your mind is not out of the ordinary. Precisely. Remember in Shatterpoint, where Mace vaguely remembers being trained by Yoda as an infant? He's lying down, and Yoda is holding a rattle just out of his reach. He's just a baby, and all he knows is that he wants the rattle, and he can't reach it with his hands, so he needs it to come to him. And he begins to tug on it with the Force. -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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maralover Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 9/18/07 8:56am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	heh..you said tug on it with the force -----signature----- NJO Special Extended Edition, you mean? My favorite part is a conclusion to the Insiders storyline. ....LOL jacen solo will be ben skywalker's master, and they will rule!!.....i think i may have been a bit premature on this..
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 9/18/07 9:25am Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Hm...interesting idea for the sex thread... -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 9/18/07 12:56pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Carnage04 posted: he used the wall for deflection and his own blaster for shooting. Though Luke Skywalker never fires a single shot (with his blaster) in all of TESB -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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SuperLariat Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 9/18/07 2:10pm Subject: RE: Luke's Jedi level in Empire to Rebellion
	Makes you wonder.. How could his father, who has his equal potential if not even more, at the age of 9 be the ONLY human to be able to Pod Race? zomgs he hasn't had any training.. Luke's had some instruction, the ultimate at being a "natural" at it and he's running on high andrenaline. HFIL, even Jacen was wielding a lightsaber and fighting Dark spawns at the age of 2... -----signature----- "A leader like Grand Admiral Thrawn or Darth Vader would have likely just genocidally ravaged the Vong and been back before dinnertime." - C19 "I wasn't begging for my life....." "I was offering you yours." - Sylar http://bushysmalls.blogspot.com
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