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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/3/07 11:11am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I hope it doesn't imply that... the ANH novelization says "many years" ( which is backed up by ROTS ). -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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TalonCard Title: •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 11/4/07 1:09am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	>Am I the only one who has issue with the Rebellion sending in a huge carrier with 100's of X-wings??? The Rebellion isn't supposed to be anywhere near that powerful before ANH, right??< Yeah; I kept waiting for an explanation on that one. TC -----signature----- Death in the Slave Pits: http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/fiction/feature20090531/index.html GODV Guide: www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa/main.html Hyperspace Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/taloncard
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johnthejedi24 Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 11/4/07 1:13am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	The rebellion is more powerful than they realize. There is nothing wrong with old Clone Wars era ships being used by the Rebels. There is also nothing wrong with hundreds of x-wing's/Y-wings's. The Rebel Alliance Sourcebook states that the rebels have entire WORLDS devoted to manufacturing goods/weapons for the rebels. Compared to the Galactic Empire it is just a tiny drop in a HUGE bucket. I am glad that we finally see some realistic numbers for the Rebellion. It is still a guerrilla movement with lots of individual cells and bases but it is still very large. -----signature----- All hail the Imperial Remnant.
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Lord_Hydronium Title: Literature Gardener Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 11/4/07 3:31am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Well, overall I liked it. Started off really slow and very exposition-heavy, but by the time everyone was on the Death Star, it really picked up, and it was nice to see a new perspective on it. Unlike others, I thought that the ANH repeat bits were some of the weaker ones, though there are exceptions (more in a bit). I've seen this before, so I have a tendency to drift over those sections, and they don't quite give the same impact as they might have. The Alderaan scenes in particular suffered for this; in what would arguably be one of the climaxes of the story, we get a scene I've already seen many, many times, which tends to diminish the impact of it. Again, an exception there: Tenn Graneet's section. More on that below, too. So, the obvious way to make a scene we've seen before interesting is to add new material to break it up or give it new context. Motti's perspective, for example, which is a hoot. The Vader/Kenobi duel was also pulled off very well. Really, only the conversation scenes felt a little retreaded; stuff like Stihl going after Han I didn't mind at all. A few more problems before I get to the stuff I liked. Tarkin's reactions towards Daala were, as Jello says, weird. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to get all giddy over her. His reactions after her injury felt more "right" to me, though, with basically thinking "If she doesn't remember anything...oh well, that's a shame." While I didn't mind the characters turning against the Empire, it did feel strange for all of them to suddenly decide to go to the Rebellion in about a page. I would have liked at least a few to decide that they were going to make it on their own. Continuity...gah. There weren't any PoD-level kriff-ups, but the editing in this book did feel like it slipped up in several place. The Death Star plans, surprisingly, got off fairly well in my opinion. I understand their reasoning for getting to Danuta is off, though that might be retconnable, though maybe a bit patched together. My quick attempt: Though Danuta was a research station for the Death Star, either they didn't have much in the way of plans, or all the plans were scrubbed from their computers. So Tarkin is surprised to hear that suddenly the Rebels are getting their plans from there. It doesn't, however, conflict with Toprawa, which was what I was worried about; the NEC already established that the Danuta plans were taken to Toprawa to be combined with the plans there. Not having read Interlude at Darkknell, I'm not even sure the Darkknell reference here needs to refer to that; maybe it was just a point through which the plans moved on their way to Toprawa. And last criticism, there were several points at which it felt like the authors were trying to be a little too cute. Teh Roxxor, C-4M3-O, all the Earth expressions Star Wars-ized...there was some stuff in SOTE that felt like this too, so I blame Perry. All right, good stuff. First off, loved the "man on the street" feel in Shadow Hunter and MedStar, loved it here. I flipped through the Death Star Technical Companion a little bit ago, and like there it's good to get a fuller picture of the Death Star. Feels a lot bigger too, for some reason. On the flip side, it was also nice that the big guys worked well too. Loved Motti, as I said, and his annoyance at Tagge made for a great conference room scene. Great scene: Palpatine tells Vader about the dissolution of the Senate. Loved this quote: "Good, good. There are strange currents in the Force, Lord Vader, swirling about so that even I cannot see the future, save through a hazy pall. We must move with great care until things become clearer." And just thought it was a good scene in general. And I believe it's the first use of "Sidious" to refer to him in this timeframe. Really, this felt like it could have fit right into the movie without a hitch. The destruction of Despayre was excellently done, both in the immediate way it was portrayed (Stihl waking up screaming was a great touch) and in the effect it has on the plot and the feel of the book. Learning that the guards were still on there made it all the more chilling. And it's a good segue into my favorite plotline... Tenn Graneet. Just fascinating to watch him going from the eager gunner to the man haunted at the lives he took. And the reason he says "Stand by" at the end...damn, that was good. Really, this plotline alone makes the book worth it for me. Ratua was also great, as was Uli, particularly the interactions with Leia. Reaves does good everyman characters in general; I say Reaves because I thought Shadow Hunter did a great job at this too, though not knowing how much of this and MedStar were Perry, I'll give credit there too. And in final closing, this book portrays what must be one of the most horrifying scenes in the EU: Tarkin, in bed, wearing a silk robe that clings to his body. Enjoy that thought. -----signature----- Great midis have little midis Swimming round inside 'em And little midis have lesser midis And so ad infinitum.
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 11/4/07 3:52am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Good to see thoughts elaborated out, Hydronium. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Spaceman_Spiff Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 11/4/07 8:35am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I definitely don't think it would be worth hardcover price. Very little actually happened in the plot until the very end, though it did get more interesting, plot-wise, there at the end. I'm actually getting a little sick of writers forcing the idea that the destruction of Alderaan was some great evil down our throats. I'll make up my own mind on that fact, thank you very much. The fact that it might not have weapons means nothing, as we all know, since there are other ways to foment rebellion that require no weaponry. But that's beside the point. Uli is my favorite character of the book, because I'm sick and tired of Force-sensitive weenies infesting these books and love to read about regular people going about their regular lives. I guess the only other thing I have to say is that, I hope that all of the knowledge that the librarian had on board the Death Star were backed up elsewhere. As someone who considers himself a seeker of knowledge, that would really bum me out if all of that vital info were lost forever because of a stupid vent. -----signature----- Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. No, no, no, no, no. I took this one out for you. You take this one. I keep this. You are not taking my whole wallet so you can go shopping. I was just gonna buy some groceries. Bullcrap. Lost "The Jetsons" Intro
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/4/07 9:56am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Spaceman_Spiff posted: I'm actually getting a little sick of writers forcing the idea that the destruction of Alderaan was some great evil down our throats. I'll make up my own mind on that fact, thank you very much. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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Drakonnen Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 11/4/07 6:35pm Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I haven't finished yet but I can't believe they used Teh Roxxor as a name. Any mild amusement derived by the use of it is far outweighed by the jarring nature of it. It makes the author seem about as mature in his writing as the little kids who actually talk like that online. -----signature----- Look out younglings... "I see through the lies of the Jedi. I do not fear the Darkside as you do." Is that a Sabrashi fear stick in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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Ris_jSarek Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 11/4/07 6:42pm Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Drakonnen posted: I haven't finished yet but I can't believe they used Teh Roxxor as a name. Any mild amusement derived by the use of it is far outweighed by the jarring nature of it. It makes the author seem about as mature in his writing as the little kids who actually talk like that online. I blame Perry. He's the one who put "Benedict Vidkun" in SotE. -----signature----- http://churchofbrad.com/jsarek/ Proud recipient of Halagad_Ventor's MOO (Master of Obscurity) Award, Brett_Bass's Spiffy Crown™, and Thrawn McEwok's "Ohh...? Interesting..." Award™
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 11/5/07 1:59am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	What's a Teh Roxxor? And what's wrong with Benedect Vidkun? Shadows was a light hearted read, nothing serious, and the prose reflected it. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/5/07 10:34am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Just a note: We're destickying this thread to make room for ones for other new releases, however the spoiler periods as outlined in the spoiler thread are still in effect as defined. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Ackbar_Van_Gungan Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 11/5/07 10:40am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I demand this thread still be stickied! -----signature----- My SFF blog: http://www.yetistomper.blogspot.com/ 1st Post= Golden Ewok™ No Prize! Unfortunate Sacred Slab of the Church of Waru -Curator of the Byss Orbiting Holographic History of Space Flight Museum
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jacenskylo Registered: Feb '06	Date Posted: 11/5/07 8:51pm Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I was wondering if anyone would be nice enough to post an indepth summary -----signature----- "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home" Edward R. Murrow "People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people" V "Awww shutup and shoot something" Cade Skywalker
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Dark Lady Mara Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/6/07 1:44am Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Summary? Everyone on the entire station except for Vader decides to defect, making its destruction a huge loss because the Rebellion could have just commandeered it. I agree about the scenes retelling events from ANH being largely disappointing. The worst thing about them was how they usually cut away at the same point the movie scenes did, adding no new depth to the story. The destruction of Alderaan in particular could have been built up much better. There also should have been more scenes detailing what happened between what's shown in the movie, sort of like how they detailed the Leia torture scenes with the medic. -----signature----- "Sci Fi has been associated with geeks and dysfunctional, antisocial boys in their basements with video games and stuff like that, as opposed to... the female audience." ~~ SPOILER-FREE TILLLL EPISODE IV "there aren't that many Ls in til." - farraday
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DarthFx3 Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 11/6/07 12:31pm Subject: RE: The Official Death Star Novel Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Well I don't know about any of that. There is all kinds of before and after a sceen content, not to mention private thoughts and off camara stuff. Out of how many people on the death star all of 2 imperials defect/desert and only 1 of them actualy lives. I keep hearing this stuff, but i've read it twice and don't find any of the critisisms valid. -----signature----- I am DARTH CARNIFEX On the bad side you get to wear black and a cape! Chicks dig the cape! Sith Happens: The Mod's worst nightmare Senator for the Sith
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