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The JC Lit Reviews Special: DEATH STAR (Spoilers)
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Here it is! Tarkin ahoy! Plans all over the place! CANON CONAN!
Some rules: rate Death Star on a scale of 1 to 10, supplementing your rating with a review, if you want to (It's not necessary but is highly encouraged). However, please do not rate or review the book until after you've read the whole thing. Thanks. 
You may fire when ready. 
Some previous review threads:
Republic Commando: Hard Contact, by Karen Traviss
Shatterpoint, by Matthew Stover
The Cestus Deception, by Steven Barnes
Medstar I: Battle Surgeons, by Michael Reaves and Steve Perry
Medstar II: Jedi Healer, by Michael Reaves and Steve Perry
Jedi Trial, by David Sherman and Dan Cragg
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, by Sean Stewart
Labyrinth of Evil, by James Luceno
Revenge of the Sith, by Matthew Stover
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader by James Luceno
Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine, by Veronica Whitney-Robinson
Tatooine Ghost, by Troy Denning
Survivor's Quest, by Timothy Zahn
Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream, by Aaron Allston
Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand, by Aaron Allston
Traitor, by Matthew Stover
Destiny's Way, by Walter Jon Williams
Force Heretic I: Remnant, by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
Force Heretic II: Refugee, by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
Force Heretic III: Reunion, by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
The Final Prophecy, by Greg Keyes
The Unifying Force, by James Luceno
Dark Nest I: The Joiner King, by Troy Denning
Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen, by Troy Denning
Dark Nest III: The Swarm War, by Troy Denning
Outbound Flight, by Timothy Zahn
Republic Commando: Triple Zero, by Karen Traviss
Legacy of the Force: Betrayal, by Aaron Allston
Legacy of the Force: Bloodlines, by Karen Traviss
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, by Drew Karpyshyn
Legacy of the Force: Tempest, by Troy Denning
Allegiance, by Timothy Zahn
Legacy of the Force: Exile, by Aaron Allston
Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice, by Karen Traviss
Legacy of the Force: Inferno, by Troy Denning
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Manisphere
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My posts on the Death Star thread are kind of unavoidable so much of what I feel about the novel is said there.
Here is the nutshell: No real clear and tight plot until the last third. Far too much character set up for a one shot novel. I'd have understood this much character stuff if it were part of a series.
It all came together in the last third. It's a fun, exiting and emotional ending actually but not worth being a hardcover. 5.4 out of 10. If it was a paperback I'd have given it 6.0 out of 10 for not being so hard on my wallet.
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Sniper_Wolf here, and I did look at the size of that thing. Spent a day reading Death Star, an overall enjoyable novel with a few flaws by two good authors who should stand in the EU forefront instead of languishing in the Star Wars literary boondocks.
The best aspect in the novel came when the big metal ball blasted the old rock balls into oblivion with the cast's response. The disillusionment among the characters who were content to marching around under Palpatine's banner and their reactions was great, especially Graneet's. He pushed the big red button two times, yet he decided to stay at his post admist the killing of billions. Great to see that not all evil in the GFFA is carried out by dead looking monks in black robes that eat babies.
The cast wasn't the greatest cast of characters in the history of literature, but they were a nice change of pace from Darth Not-Very-Bright. Wish another Corellian or Twi'lek wasn't invented though Plant Man made up for it. Seeing average people going through the motions on the monster killing machine while the massive events of A New Hope went on at the same time gave the Death Star a human element. Uli's return is not surprising given the writers' previous novels. Seeing him squeam under the Emprie's command is interesting to read, which shows the best stength Reaves and Perry have. The duo show how average people deal with fantastic situations happening around them. These are not the mystics that decide the galaxy's fate or their uber pilot-commando sidekicks. For people craving the nine to five grind in the EU turn here.
Of the fantastic events happening around the characters you have movie characters such as Conan's namesake. The bickering between Admiral Conan, Tarkin, and Vader forshadows the warlordism in the post-ROTJ novels since the Imperialists obviously cannot stand each other. I enjoyed Tarkin's portrayal the most with his ambitious side contrasted with his "tender" moments with Daala. Nice to see tough Vader instead of the emo Vader that has been common lately. His pagetime was minimal, but he was handled reasonably well.
The novel did have some faults though. Riten, the librarian, did not have enough scenes to warrant not remaining on the cutting board since the bouncer or Nova easily could have filled the "character that sacrifices himself" role. In relation to that considering this is a novel that takes place on a station's that blown up I was expecting a few more POV characters to die. One of if not the best part of Battle Surgeons was when Yant dies pointlessly during the Rimsoo's evacuation. Too bad that type of death was not repeated.
Seeing the characters interact with A New Hope's events was fun, but the recapping of scenes felt tacked on considering the view could just watch the film for those parts. The novel did start off with too many Luceno-class lists though they were dropped once the novel started rolling. Chapters could easily have been longer since they were sometimes too brief, and the idea of a self-defense class for prisoners is laughable at best. However the positives outweight the negatives in this novel.
Death Star is an interesting look at the mundane lives of regular people caught up in a galaxy spanning conflict. Despite its flaws the book is much better than recent EU novel outings. I give the novel an 8/10. Congrats to the Reaves/Perry team.
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Average score: 13.4/2 = 6.7
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I give this novel an 8.5 out of 10, the best SW prose in literally years. All the characters were pretty likable, and it was interesting to watch their moral dilemmas (or lack thereof). The last few chapters were real page-turners, with twist after twist. Uli taking a verbal jab at Vader to his face (helmet?) was classic.
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Average score: 21.9/3 = 7.3
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7 out of 10.
I always enjoy works by Michael Reeves and Steve Perry, and Death Star was no exception. While the first 2/3 of the book did drag a bit, as it was totally involved in character development, it was still enjoyable as most of the characters were interesting. The last 1/3 of the book was very fast paced and it was fun to see some classic moments relived from a different view.
I really enjoyed the characters in this novel, whether they were established characters, such as Vader and Tarkin, or new characters, such as Ratua, Nova, Uli, Memah, and the rest. It was enjoyable to see their reactions to what was going on around them. The interactions between Uli, Princess Leia and Vader were some of my favorite moments of the novel.
While, not their best work, this is another good book from Reeves and Perry.
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I wonder if I'll be the one who gives the book the lowest rating?
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Average score: 28.9/4 = 7.23
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I was a bit surprised as I seem to recall early rumors swirling that it would cover the entire Dark Times and try to explain why it took so long. Instead, they made an off-hand comment about it and the story concentrated on the lead-up to the Battle of Yavin. Frankly, that was the much better choice.
The proliferation of comics from the RE overshadow that there really weren't that many novels covering the Rebellion Era. It's enjoyable to see the State of the Empire just prior to the OT, and to see what the regular people dealt with daily.
Not really seeing any of the Heroes of Yavin except in their movie scenes was a nice touch. We needed some quality time with Vader and Tarkin anyways.
Some of the canon established in this is strange, but not anywhere near a problem (like, say "Jedi Trial").
I agree that it took a little too long to establish the background before getting to the meat of the plot.
All in all though, a satisfying read.
8/10
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Average score: 36.9/5 = 7.38
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Good review, Sniper Wolf. Good coverage of areas. Luceno-class lists? I've infected the forum.  I now call him The Lucenopedia.
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7.5/10
A solid book; I enjoyed the prose, and the characters were well-written and likable. As some have mentioned, there was no clear plot for most of the first half or two-thirds of the book, but that didn't bother me much. Almost without exception, the individual stories were interesting enough that I wasn't overly concerned with the 'overall' plot. I mean, after all, it's a book titled 'Death Star'. I kind of had an inkling what the general plot was. In fact, I kind of liked the lack of a clearly-defined plot at first; it was the Death Star book, and it was simply telling the stories of some of the people who were onboard or involved. Simple and straightforward, and it didn't really need much else. It even read almost like a Tales book for the first half or so, I felt. It came together pretty well at the end, too, although some of the coincidences were a bit hard to buy.
But, by far, my biggest complaint with the book was how many of the main characters got away to go join the rebellion and live happily ever after. It was the Death Star book, telling the stories of ordinary people who were on the Death Star. I wasn't expecting a happy ending, and the one we got seemed like it really stretched believability. Especially the part where DARTH VADER HIMSELF goes after the shuttle, but fails to bring it down because it took an evasive maneuver that was SO OBVIOUS that Vader failed to see it coming. Excuse me? No. Just no.
However, Nova and the bouncer sacrificing themselves to fight fifteen armed stormtroopers to buy time was nice, as was the librarian having to stay back.
So, overall, good book, great writing and characters, but an ending that seemed forced and hard to believe.
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Average score: 44.4/6 = 7.4
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I usually finish newly released Star Wars Novels in 2-3 days. This one I was pushing five days on. I even had plenty of free time but just didn't feel like picking it back up all that often. I just felt like it was easy to see where the entire thing was going with the side characters. By mid book I just felt that the two fighters and the archivist die while the others escape during the battle of Yavin. And of course, the "Main" part of the book had too much ANH verbatim. There were some nice points like Vader's reaction to Obi-Wan and some other Point of View parts added.
I usually like Character driven stuff and I liked the Medstar books. This book does hold the distinction as being only the second Star Wars book to literally put me to sleep during it (Triple Zero is the other....and that one put me to sleep on multiple occasions.
I'm going to give it a 5/10...easily the lowest rating I've given in a review column yet. Maybe others found it to be worth their while, but I certainly did not.
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Average score: 49.4/7 = 7.06
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