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Ulicus
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1/4 8:04pm
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Master-Chief-Kenobi posted:
My biggest problem with this book is that only 10 years after the sith are destroyed at Russan Bane has every single possible piece set up in place for Palpetine to take down the republic 990 years later so why on earth do the sith need to wait that extra 990 years?
Who says they DID wait?
The Jedi know of Darth Bane's fall.... and they were rounding up anyway when they said the Sith had been exstinct for "a millennium", so what's a few more years gonna hurt?
And "Revenge" of the Sith makes little sense these days, since Bane was the one responsible for their destruction... unless they want revenge for BANE's death. 
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I'll give it a 6/10. It was aptly, if simply, written. It was a fairly entertaining story, if, as others have said, a bit rushed. My biggest complaint with Drew is the way he seems to write combat scenes like he's still thinking in terms of the mechanics of an RPG. I noticed this too in PoD. My biggest complaint this time around: a fully fledged Jedi Knight, of four years no less, losing to a normal human opponent. In mêlée combat. No tricks, no surprises, no Ysalamiri, just Joe Nobody besting a Jedi Knight, by himself, through skill alone.
I'm sorry, but no. I simply will not accept that. I don't care if he was a diplomat and a Form VI user; he's still a karking JEDI KNIGHT. I'm not one to set up Jedi as uber-beings or demi-gods, but regular people are simply not faster than Jedi. "He can see things before they happen. It's a Jedi trait." The entire point of combat with Force users is that they don't rely on their mortal reflexes, but rather let the Force guide them. Not only would a Jedi be faster than any regular human opponent, he would be able to sense his attacks, and therefore meet them, before they're even begun.
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Havac
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1/4 10:16pm
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Average score: 51/7 = 7.29
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Master-Chief-Kenobi
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1/5 7:31am
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Ulicus posted:
Master-Chief-Kenobi posted:
My biggest problem with this book is that only 10 years after the sith are destroyed at Russan Bane has every single possible piece set up in place for Palpetine to take down the republic 990 years later so why on earth do the sith need to wait that extra 990 years?
Who says they DID wait?
The Jedi know of Darth Bane's fall.... and they were rounding up anyway when they said the Sith had been exstinct for "a millennium", so what's a few more years gonna hurt?
And "Revenge" of the Sith makes little sense these days, since Bane was the one responsible for their destruction... unless they want revenge for BANE's death.
It is a perfect set up for part 3. Perhaps bane is killed by the jedi before Zannah can complete her training so all his knowlage & Powers are lost until Palpetines time?
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Zorrixor
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Master-Chief-Kenobi posted:
Ulicus posted:
Master-Chief-Kenobi posted:
My biggest problem with this book is that only 10 years after the sith are destroyed at Russan Bane has every single possible piece set up in place for Palpetine to take down the republic 990 years later so why on earth do the sith need to wait that extra 990 years?
Who says they DID wait?
The Jedi know of Darth Bane's fall.... and they were rounding up anyway when they said the Sith had been exstinct for "a millennium", so what's a few more years gonna hurt?
And "Revenge" of the Sith makes little sense these days, since Bane was the one responsible for their destruction... unless they want revenge for BANE's death.
It is a perfect set up for part 3. Perhaps bane is killed by the jedi before Zannah can complete her training so all his knowlage & Powers are lost until Palpetines time?
I would love if Bane was the Sith who gave justice to the statement "and once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy!" 
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Ulicus
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Zorrixor posted:
I would love if Bane was the Sith who gave justice to the statement "and once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy!"
Ditto.
Puppet Chancellor anyone? At the least, it would give us another reason for the Jedi to think the Sith Lord was someone *around* Palpatine rather than Palpatine himself.
Wait. I'm getting severe Deja Vu now. Did we have a thread about this about a year ago? I remember posting a bucketload of speculation.... 
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Havac
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A year ago? I think that was around two months, if that.
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Ulicus posted:
And "Revenge" of the Sith makes little sense these days, since Bane was the one responsible for their destruction... unless they want revenge for BANE's death.
I'm beginning to think the "revenge" is simply for the Jedi creating the Army of Light and successfully battling the Sith forces to the point where a showdown (Ruusan) became inevitable. It's possible the later Sith don't know the details regarding Bane's role in the use of the thought bomb.
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Master-Chief-Kenobi posted:
I was expecting her to turn back to the light by the end and when she didn't I was mad about it.
YODA: If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.
And that is why I'm so glad she didn't.
Enough with the redemptions already. 
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Havac posted:
A year ago? I think that was around two months, if that.
Maybe we did it twice then, the one I'm thinking of was definitely months and months ago....
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1/5 2:19pm
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I started this book with the debates about canon and Drew in the forefront of my mind. To be fair, the quibbles spoiled the first half portion of the book for me. Then Bane killed a bunch of merc's in a display of dark side power, and Zannah came into her own for me.
Tython, Serenno and Belia Darzu were incredibly interesting additions. Valorum getting some page time was perfect, and the death of Farfalla was a surprise. I watched Zannah get herself into trouble at the end with Bane, Caleb and Davorit, and I found myself wondering to myself; how the hell is she going to get around of this?
I knew she wasn't ready to be the Dark Lord. We all did. She'd screwed up too many times to be one. Sure, I truly didn't expect her to grab an apprentice and eight Marauders so quickly, and I expected her to sit back and watch. But the ending was impressively built up. If Zannah had in-fact killed Bane at the end, after that impressive turnabout, I would have been happy.
The final duel on Tython was impressive, and though I do dislike vehemently gameplay mechanics appearing in novella, I can live. For squeezing that in, and the shortness of the piece, I have to take a few points away, even if the novel was very well done.
So, I'll give it an 8/10. Good, but not close enough to perfect to make me happy. But knowing we'd had 400 years of Jedi Chancellors simply made me cackle. Good to see the Jedi ruling the Galaxy with an iron fist. Wait, did I say that?
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I enjoyed the book. I'll give it 7 out of 10.
However, I kinda disagreed with how the Jedi are portrayed at the end when battling Bane & Zannah. I won't give too much away away for those who haven't read the book, but to me they were using stupid tactics against Zannah. For those of you who have read the book, you should know what I mean. I didn't know that Jedi were that careless. And, I would have taken a platoon of Jedi to Tython, not just 5. That was curious.
One thing is clear, if Bane had not had his 'special' armor, he would have been killed fairly early in the fight. The Jedi weapons master was more skilled. One can only speculate how Lord Hoth would have done against Bane. Oh well....
Of course, our Sith 'heroes' must survive until the next book, but I would have shown the Jedi giving more of an overall pounding to Bane & Zannah (although, yes, Bane does suffer injury)
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Average score: 66/9 = 7.33
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I, for one would give the story a 9/10. The story flowed nicely and was far more interesting to me than the Darth Maul novel had been.
Drew's style moves along nicely, and it was refreshing to have less of the boring way the political machinations have been going in the LOTF books. I loved the settings and action sequences, and his visual style of writing helped me picture things well.
I thought the characters were well-written, and that the references to other eras were great.
I've read and own all the Tales of the Jedi comics as well as the current KOTOR series, and strongly urge everyone else to do likewise. It fills out the Old Republic era and lends much weight to the histories of the Jedi and Sith. Just reading these two Darth Bane books is okay, but you aren't getting the whole picture.
In closing, I would say that the current Caedus-era novels could do with better pacing and more visual flair, like Drew incorporates here.
9/10.
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Average score: 75/10 = 7.50
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