Author Topic: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Colt_Seavers 
Registered: Jun '07
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Date Posted: 1/6 10:06pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
I give it 8/10.

Slow at first but awesome last half. The big battle towards the end was pretty awesome.

 

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Havac 
Title: Lit Mod of Awayness
Registered: Sep '05
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Date Posted: 1/7 5:27pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Average score: 83/11 = 7.55

 

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Manisphere 
Registered: Aug '07
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Date Posted: 1/14 1:24pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
After the horrible disappointment of Death Star Allegiance and even Sacrifice to and extent, I was thrilled to finally have a hardcover that I liked and I didn't regret buying in hardback. Though this was a short and fairly unsurprising novel, it was utterly enjoyable for me. And in lieu of my hatred of recent Star Wars hardcovers I'm giving Rule of Two 8.7/10. It was pure empty fun!

 

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Havac 
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Date Posted: 1/14 6:07pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Average score: 91.7/12 = 7.64

 

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Carnage04 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/14 8:22pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)


It wasn't bad but continuity issues aside for both books, I liked PoD more.

Things in particular that I didn't like.....

1. The Orbalisks turned Bane into more of a mindless brute than a dark lord of the Sith. Watching the Dark Lord of the Sith throw any thought of actual lightsaber ability out the Window and just wade into a fight randomly hacking away and depending on some other thing to keep him from harm is what I have in mind for the Yuuzhan Vong, not Darth Bane.

2. Darovit's part in the tale seemed a little too contived for me. Not that a lot of things in Star Wars aren't, but still.....that and having the thing come full circle back to the healer....meh. Building the Jedi memorial on Ruusan...a place where nobody would really go...seemed like a "Huh?" moment.

3. Watching the man who is supposed to be responsible for the start of the Sith rise to power sit and fret over a Holocron and fail miserably time and time again was a little disappointing. In all reality, I didn't care if he got the holocron to work or not.

4. Zannah entering the Jedi temple seemed a little bit too "The Jedi are idiots" to me. If all one needs is a good dye job to be a Sith Lord and gain access to the temple archives.....you would think that Anakin Skywalker would have been able to get himself inside in RoTS.

5. Farfalla seemed like a pretty reasonable Jedi until it came to going after Bane. The way they went about it was pretty crazy. The Jedi thinking Darovit could have been the Sith Lord when they went and polished him off by the healer was a little silly too. Apparently, Darovit could no longer touch the force. Surely they couldn't have believed a half crazed force weakling took out five Jedi masters.....

Some things I did like....

1. I didn't know how the Bane-Zannah dynamic would be when Zannah was yet still young. I didn't really want to see Bane kicking the crap out of his little girl apprentice, but I think making her find her OWN WAY to Onderon was a good trial.

2. The entire bit where Bane and Zannah were setting up deals with people in positions of power so early on in the Sith career makes Palpatine's ability to get where he got more realistic. Havoc once mentioned that he would have liked to see Palpy's achievement be the culmination of 1000 years of Sith Lords gaining footholds in the corporate sector and government is appealing to me. It seems they got a good start.

Overall, I wasn't that excited. Could take it or leave it. I give it a 6.5/10.

 

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Ulicus 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 1/14 8:33pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Carnage04 posted:

1. The Orbalisks turned Bane into more of a mindless brute than a dark lord of the Sith. Watching the Dark Lord of the Sith throw any thought of actual lightsaber ability out the Window and just wade into a fight randomly hacking away and depending on some other thing to keep him from harm is what I have in mind for the Yuuzhan Vong, not Darth Bane.

See, I liked this because it provided a good justification for their removal. Bane's lightsaber skills have almost certainly atrophied in the ten years since his aquisition of the orbalisks (probably due to having not faught a real battle and also having no need of defence) and it shows. He goes into battle without *any* regard for defence and still can't overwhelm his opponents with any great speed?

Hopefully he'll be getting himself sorted out again by the next book.

Carnage04 posted:

2. Darovit's part in the tale seemed a little too contived for me. Not that a lot of things in Star Wars aren't, but still.....that and having the thing come full circle back to the healer....meh.

It was a little contrived, but I appreciated that Darovit became a solidly good and likeable character. He was just a man in the end. A good man - who most certainly did not deserve the fate he got.

Carnage04 posted:

Building the Jedi memorial on Ruusan...a place where nobody would really go...seemed like a "Huh?" moment.

It seemed to me more like a "VALLEY OF THE JEDI! WOOO!" moment.

Though I'm still a little frustrated that there's no explanation as to how 100 Jedi = "the Force of thousands of Jedi", however.... Maybe it increased in power as time went on? Bane certainly doesn't seem to think the Nexus is anything that can transform him into a god.

Carnage04 posted:

4. Zannah entering the Jedi temple seemed a little bit too "The Jedi are idiots" to me. If all one needs is a good dye job to be a Sith Lord and gain access to the temple archives.....you would think that Anakin Skywalker would have been able to get himself inside in RoTS.

Anakin was forbidden from accessing the "Master's Only" area of the archives... that's not where Zannah went.

I really need to get my own review written up. I'm just being incredibly lazy.

 

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NJOfan215 
Registered: May '03
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Date Posted: 1/14 9:06pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
I found this book to be a lot better than path of destruction. I thought POD read a too much like a video game, i didn't feel that way about rule of two for the most part. I think some of the force powers were a little bizare and i didn't like having a chill in the book 1030 years before zahn introduced them.

7.9/10

 

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PadmeA_Panties 
Registered: Oct '03
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Date Posted: 1/14 10:22pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Since its here, I'll just post this here:

Can we get the Ruins of Dantooine review thread unlocked/bumped so I can put my review in it? I just finished it. Thanks to whoever.

 

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Havac 
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Date Posted: 1/15 4:16pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Average score: 106.1/14 = 7.58

 

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King_of_Red_Lions 
Registered: Mar '03
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Date Posted: 1/15 6:25pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/15 6:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: King_of_Red_Lions
Carnage04 posted:
5. Farfalla seemed like a pretty reasonable Jedi until it came to going after Bane. The way they went about it was pretty crazy. The Jedi thinking Darovit could have been the Sith Lord when they went and polished him off by the healer was a little silly too. Apparently, Darovit could no longer touch the force. Surely they couldn't have believed a half crazed force weakling took out five Jedi masters.....


I agree Farfalla could have planned the arrest a little better: when going after the last of the Sith Lords - why take a hand full of Jedi when you could take a legion? Of course, 1000 years later the Jedi still haven't learned this lesson. Mace Windu and Farfalla share an overconfidence in the light side's superiority over the dark side.

Perhaps Zannah augmented Darovit's power with her own like she did when they were children.



 

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Kaje 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 1/15 7:41pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
King_of_Red_Lions posted:
Perhaps Zannah augmented Darovit's power with her own like she did when they were children.
That's my assumption.

 

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Carnage04 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/16 3:51pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
King_of_Red_Lions posted:
Carnage04 posted:
5. Farfalla seemed like a pretty reasonable Jedi until it came to going after Bane. The way they went about it was pretty crazy. The Jedi thinking Darovit could have been the Sith Lord when they went and polished him off by the healer was a little silly too. Apparently, Darovit could no longer touch the force. Surely they couldn't have believed a half crazed force weakling took out five Jedi masters.....


I agree Farfalla could have planned the arrest a little better: when going after the last of the Sith Lords - why take a hand full of Jedi when you could take a legion? Of course, 1000 years later the Jedi still haven't learned this lesson. Mace Windu and Farfalla share an overconfidence in the light side's superiority over the dark side.

Perhaps Zannah augmented Darovit's power with her own like she did when they were children.






I have to admit that I never considered that.

Ulicus - You raise good points too. My rating still stands. wink

 

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Ulicus 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 1/16 4:40pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Carnage04 posted:

Ulicus - You raise good points too. My rating still stands. wink

No worries, I wasn't trying to make you change the rating. peace

 

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KnightDawg 
Registered: Nov '07
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Date Posted: 1/25 2:00am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
I accidently posted this on the "BD:PoD" thread, but now it has found it's home grin

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I was really pleased with how the book ended and the mention of the possiblity that is was Darth Bane that begun the hidden politics that eventually put Palpatine as the Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic.

What I didn't like was how easily and quickly Valenthyne Farfalla was killed. I thought his character was unique enough to warrant further development in the EU. I also thought it was rather unbelievable how Darth Bane traveled from Dxun to Onderon.

I give this book a 8 out of 10

I'd rated slightly higher, but only if there's a 3rd book in the works. We need to see/read the final fate of Bane.

 

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Havac 
Title: Lit Mod of Awayness
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Date Posted: 1/25 10:41am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: DARTH BANE: RULE OF TWO (Spoilers)
Average score: 114.1/15 = 7.61

 

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