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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 1/5/08 7:38pm Subject: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	"After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my storyâ€”however many films it took to tellâ€”was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were not stories that I was destined to tell. Instead they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga." - George Lucas Well, ladies and gents, the results are in for the top 100 EU Works list -- though, due to ties, it is in fact the top 101. Your votes were tallied and all 183 nominated works were totaled. Some of the works present you might find odd; you might find it strange that some others weren't included. You have no one to blame but yourselves. Tonight I present to you the first portion of the list for discussion. 97. (tie) Tales of the Jedi: Redemption - The popular tale of Ulic Qel-Droma's death and redemption, it's perhaps surprising this entry didn't finish higher. 97. (tie) Splinter of the Mind's Eye - Among the first EU works created, Splinter of the Mind's Eye may be slightly strange, but it holds an important position in the EU. 97. (tie) Jade Solitaire - A short story about Mara Jade, this is only the first of many works by Timothy Zahn to make the list. 97. (tie) Battlefront II - It's the ability to kill Gungans and Ewoks that got this on the list, isn't it? 97. (tie) A New Hope Radio Drama - Brian Daley's radio dramatizations of the original trilogy remain among the most important early contributors in expanding the universe. 93. (tie) The Corellian Trilogy - In introducing Thrackan Sal-Solo and Centerpoint Station and giving us our first good look at the Corellian system, the Corellian Trilogy set up important elements for future EU. 93. (tie) Jedi: Mace Windu - one of the first Clone Wars comics, this issue introduced Sora Bulq and Asajj Ventress to comics readers . . . but more importantly, it introduced the Hat. 93. (tie) Rogue Planet - This prequel novel both set up the post-TPM world and many elements of the New Jedi Order series, as well as marking an early appearance of Tarkin in the prequel period. 93. (tie) Boba Fett series - In this young readers' series, the basis of Boba Fett's bounty-hunting career was finally brought to light. 90. (tie) Republic: Honor and Duty - The tale of Sagoro Autem's loyalty to and disillusionment with the Republic remains a strongly-characterized tragedy and one of John Ostrander's more overlooked contributions to the Expanded Universe -- though not so overlooked as to miss the list. 90. (tie) Republic: Darkness - Another Ostrander work, Darkness continued the story of Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, and Villie while introducing Tholme and exploring Quinlan's past. 90. (tie) The Truce at Bakura - The novel that shows just what happens after Return of the Jedi, The Truce at Bakura shows early cooperation between the Empire and Rebellion and Leia's struggle to forgive her father. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/5/08 8:08pm Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS - Date Edited: 1/5/08 8:10pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	I'm surprised to see Jade Solitaire making the list- it's not one to come immediately to mind often when looking at the various works of the Zahnpoleverse. Likewise, I'm also surprised to see SOTME ranked so low- I had expected the nostalgia vote to bump it a bit higher. I suspect Redemption being so hard to find in the past couple years may be a factor in it's ranking. I'd love to see where the CT ranks 10 yeras from now if we did another one of these polls, and likewise if we could have done the same back when the CT came out, as I'm curious how it's recent relevance to the events of the NJO and LOTF has affected it's ranking and perception. I still remember back when it came out and taking awhile to recover from the shock of having Corellia be so independent and, essentially, the "bad guys" in relation to the NR- I mean, this is Han Solo's world, so you would have naively thought they'd have been a big part of the "good guys"/NR at the time. It was an interesting take on things that took me offguard, but led to some of the more satisfying aspects of the NJO and LOTF. Also, by picking up the loose threads from TAB, it was one of the first series that really felt like this mix of standalone trilogies and one-shots that Bantam released really were meshing together in the larger scheme of things. Havac posted: 90. (tie) Republic: Honor and Duty - ...one of John Ostrander's more overlooked contributions to the Expanded Universe ...for a good reason. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 1/5/08 8:16pm Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	I think that the CT is overlooked in general...it's certainly on the better end of the Bantam stick. Splinter's rating is very, very disheartening. But understandable. -----signature----- "You were fantastic. We're free!" "Kara, we're inside a Russian airbase in the middle of Afghanistan."
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 1/5/08 8:23pm Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	I think it's better than it's given credit for, but I do think it has some severe weaknesses -- it was really one big book or a duology stretched over a trilogy. It is one of the better executions of the Superweapon of the Week + Warlord of the Week plot, as it somewhat subverted both of them. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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Cull_Tremayne Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 1/5/08 9:15pm Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Selonians and Dralls just make stupid secondary characters. Q9 was and still is the bomb though. I'm also surprised that Jade Solitaire made the list. It does tone it down on the Mara worship in relation to other Zahn works IMO, that gives it some points in my book. Seeing the Radio Drama on the list is heartening, even if I've never listened to it. Always nice to see the old-school EU get a shout-out. If Redemption only just barely made the list, that doesn't bode well for the rest of the TotJ series. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the rest of the series didn't seem to be very popular with the voters. Also, without the NJO, I doubt anyone would've voted for Rogue Planet, that book definitely ranks near the bottom on my EU favorites list. The2ndQuest posted: Havac posted: 90. (tie) Republic: Honor and Duty - ...one of John Ostrander's more overlooked contributions to the Expanded Universe ...for a good reason. Blasphemy! -----signature----- Remember when you were making that building out of popsicle sticks, but then a breath of fresh air came in and destroyed everything? Man I hate when that happens. Watch out for the...something.
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 1/5/08 9:45pm Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Cull_Tremayne posted: Also, without Raith Sienar and Tarkin, I doubt anyone would've voted for Rogue Planet Fixed. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 1/6/08 12:13am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Havac posted: Cull_Tremayne posted: Also, without Raith Sienar and Tarkin, I doubt anyone would've voted for Rogue Planet Fixed. Even they don't save that thing. It's an extended preface to the NJO, and if you're just reading RP alone, well...there's no payoff. It's not exactly the best executed EU work... IMO. -----signature----- "You were fantastic. We're free!" "Kara, we're inside a Russian airbase in the middle of Afghanistan."
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Obi Anne Title: FanForce RSA Europe Registered: Nov '98	Date Posted: 1/6/08 1:07am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Actually I read RP many years before I read the rest of the NJO and I thought it help up pretty well. Of course this was also the first book, at least for me, to pick up what happened with Anakin after TPM so that made it interesting. Not a favourite in any way, but not just a preface to NJO either. -----signature----- "That is the beauty of grand opera; you can do anything...as long as you sing it" Anna Russell
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Queengodess Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 1/6/08 4:53am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	I agree with ObiAnne. RP isn't one of the best books, but I'd prefer it to a NJO novel any day. Then again, I'm an Anakin and Obi-Wan junkie. -----signature----- Carpe Jugulum - sieze the throat! Proud member of the Wrenga Jixton Virtual Blondies Club! Små kanoner dödar bara lite. Sidious can have his soul, but the nipples of the Chosen One belongs to ME!
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/6/08 10:25am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Personally, having never read RP, I never felt like I was missing anything, especially after the virtual summary in Traitor, which doesn't bode very well for RP's intended function as an NJO prelude. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 1/6/08 10:37am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	I enjoyed RP. I'm not sure I would have placed it on my top 100, but I always enjoyed it. I'm surprised, though, that there aren't more people going, "Battlefront II? What the hell?" -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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The_Loyal_Imperial Title: C&G Game Host Registered: Nov '07	Date Posted: 1/6/08 10:39am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS - Date Edited: 1/6/08 11:09am (2 edits total) Edited By: The_Loyal_Imperial
	Some of those entries are a lot lower than I would have expected. Makes me wonder what the rest of the list is going to look like.... Oh, and before I forget: Battlefront II? What the hell?
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Corusca_One Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 1/6/08 10:42am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Battlefront II? What the hell? -----signature----- What would Gryph do? Zayne Carrick is Zayne Carrick! "I don't want to hear any Pessimistic Panakas and their prophecies of continuity gloom and doom..." -Barriss_Coffee Bouncy, bouncy oh such a good time!
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/6/08 10:57am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Battlefront II? What the hell? -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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hellacrazyjedi Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 1/6/08 11:17am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS
	Post the whole list please, is there really any point to space it out over the week? -----signature----- "He had become so powerful as to be dangerous to his own galaxy, for he could see clearly the temptations of the dark side and the desire to force one's will on others-to so completely dominate that all life would kowtow to him."
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/6/08 11:20am Subject: RE: 30 Years of Expanding the Universe, A Jedi Council event: The Top 100 EU Works RESULTS - Date Edited: 1/6/08 11:22am (3 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Yes- it gives us a chance to discuss the individual titles and their placement. If we posted the whole list all at once, people will just focus discussion on the top 10 and a few other titles, and the rest will be lost amongst all that as white noise. For example, do you think the CT or RP would have gotten even the amount of the comments they've already received had we posted the whole list? Not a chance. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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