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StateOfLoveAndTrust
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5/8 4:09am
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BobaMatt posted:
Musing posted:
I'm hoping that Deliah comes to her senses and realizes that R2D2 is the one for her, not Cade.  
R2D2/Deliah forever! 
Depending on what sort of "upgrades" he's currently fitted with, of course.
Best ship ever.
He can just show her some holos of Plif, and she'll be all over him.
Also, what's up with Syn? He looked to be a MILKman in the last arc, but now we find out he enjoys making time with 16 year-olds. Maybe he's just an equal opportunity [insert whatever word you find appropriate].
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Jmacq1
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Well, there's always the possibility that Syn's would-be-womanizing is just a front for his true feelings about....No, nevermind, I'm just not going to go there. Not that many haven't likely already had the same idea. (And no, I don't take the idea seriously at all).
In hindsight, we should've guessed that Sia had some mutual feelings for Antares. Otherwise Roan's little tidbit about Draco "forgetting about marrying his daughter" doesn't make sense. If Sia didn't return Antares' feelings, chances are she wouldn't marry him anyway, so that "barb" would have been meaningless/empty. Unless Roan and Draco had some secret agreement to force Marasiah to marry him or something, which I don't think seems very likely.
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HedecGa
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This was a really good issue. I was actually surprised by how good it was. I've liked Legacy so far, but this issue just seemed FUN and not so much with the Cade-brooding. I mean, I actually LIKED Cade in this issue and, honestly, that's a first. I've understood that he had to be all dark or whatever but it's like "Get over yourself, already." I know he still has plenty o' issues, but he seemed to put that aside for this issue and just be "one of the gang". Great, great issue. If there's more like this in store, this series will only get better and better.
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beccatoria
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1) I loved this issue, and don't really have much to say beyond that.
2) I was also surprised at how Firefly this came off. Cade's really sinking back into his pirate-speak and it seemed more prominent here than in some other arcs.
3) I was also surprised we got even a translated "I love you," and at Sia initiating things with Draco. Mainly I like this because like so much else in the comic, I feel things are happening. We're not having stuff teased out forever because there's SO MUCH plot, there's always something new. Like revealing Krayt's identity in the fifteenth issue, rather than dragging it out to the climax of the series. It's like the opposite of LOTF in terms of pacing.
4) Regarding Syn and whether he's the MILKman or after younger girls, I think it's an equal opportunities thing. Or rather, Syn's supposed to be about the same age as Cade, right? And Cade's supposed to be 21? If it was two years ago, then Syn was nineteen and Ahnah was sixteen, which isn't really dodgy at all based on age. Her mom was probably shooting because it was Syn and she figured her kid was too young for that. 
5) the expressions in the Cade/Deliah were just beautifully drawn.
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Ulicus posted:
PS: Anyone else notice that Cade says: "Hey, Artoo" before he gives his order? Like you have to with that increasingly popular (and awesome) R2-D2 toy? It's probably a coincidence, but it'd make me laugh if it was a reference.
Did you hear my voice when he said that or no?
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Well, there is nothing I can say that hasn't been said about this issue. I am always thinking the women in this comic are light years smarter than the men and I am still to be proven wrong. I am always happy to see IKs any chance I get and it's nice to see Draco has pulled back a bit from that impulsive and not altogether brilliant gung-ho IK he was 12 issues ago. Of course Sia remains far too intelligent for him. That still comes off fairly clearly.
I have to say Cade was finally a man about the way he's treated Blue so I was quite happy with his conduct in his Huttese apology to Blue.
Roan Fel isn't the sweetie pie I thought he was but what Emperor is? I like Fel's interest and trepidation with Cade coming into the mix.
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Magnuskn
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Strika23 posted:
BobaMatt posted:
I WANT!!! DAMN YOU STUDY ABROAD!!!
One question: are we sure the kid's a Cathar and not a Selonian, considering where Bantha apparently lives and works?
Nope, the kid is a cathar and it was confirmed in some magazine a few days ago. Hes too feline to be a selonian. And bantha rawk does not live on Selonia, he lives on Iego.
Oh, I thought that maybe he also could be a Farghul. Oh, well.
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Ulicus
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Did you hear my voice when he said that or no?
I did, but only because you fill my every waking moment.
(PS, that's a lie )
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First thing I noticed on the cover and have been noticing through the comics: why do Cade and Jariah have matching bright green eyes? It could be coincidence, but these things hardly ever are.
Roan doesn't seem to have that great of a relationship with his daughter, huh? He's willing to let her die, then when Antares rescues her he tells the public it was his idea, then he orders Antares to stay away from Sia and puts him on a dangerous mission, in this issue he's mad that he listened to his daughter in letting Cade go, and Marasiah tells Antares she'll deal with her father and he can't control her personal life. Just something I've noticed. Roan also seems dark, and very angry, about just letting Cade go and calling him a space junkie who probably betrayed some of his secrets? What secrets? Can you say paranoid? I'm almost sure Roan will die sooner than later, I hope he doesn't go to the dark side first, but he sure is piling up a lot of regrets that seem to be souring his personality: the war, aliance with the Sith, letting Nyna live, letting Cade go...
The scene between Cade and Deliah was surprisingly very nice, I'm glad they made up. I'm glad they included that Huttese dictionary at the end too! But I see something happening to Deliah, unfortunately. I don't think they'll let all future Skywalkers be Zeltrons, though that would be kinda cool. With the parallel Marasiah/Antares and Cade/Deliah scenes, it seems to be hinting at Cade/Marasiah to me, whether they're distant cousins or not.
Cade didn't murder Rav, which is good, but I'm sure he'll still be up to trouble, especially considering his contact with Darth Maladi. It does seem like Nihl's arm is regrowing or something too.
Last but not least, who is this new character Azlyn Rae? I'm going along with most other people's opinions and say she's a Jedi come to take Cade to the secret temple.
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Ulicus
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5/8 9:30am
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Bec, regarding Cade's age, yeah - I think he's supposed to be twenty-one, even though I'm going to pretend he's twenty-three until told otherwise in the text.  (Jariah can be 21 :P)
I've heard that Sia is only eighteen, too, which... weirds me out a little, considering the Draco thing. Not because I find the age difference particularly offensive but, well, it means that Draco is hooking up with a girl he's seen grow up from the perspective of an adult and that just strikes me as a little odd. (He was a full Imperial Knight back when Sia was eleven if she's eighteen now)
Han/Leia would have been weird if they'd had frequent interaction from the ages of twenty and ten respectively.
Before I'd heard the eighteen thing, I honestly thought Marasiah was twenty-four or five.
Darth-Ghost posted:
But I see something happening to Deliah, unfortunately. I don't think they'll let all future Skywalkers be Zeltrons, though that would be kinda cool.
My general thoughts are:
# If the "Skywalker" name is going to end with Cade and he is really the "last of the Skywalkers", then no-one will mind if he sticks with Blue to the very end.
# If Cade is going to have children... I think it would be tricky. I'm not particularly adverse to the idea of Pinkwalkers but I can see it being a turn off for the head honchos in control of the franchise.
Darth-Ghost posted:
With the parallel Marasiah/Antares and Cade/Deliah scenes, it seems to be hinting at Cade/Marasiah to me, whether they're distant cousins or not.
Interesting take. I hadn't though of that... though, of course, I've still got my heart set on an ultimate Cade/Sigel hook up. The Icequeen/Hotshot combination is a classic. I love Cade/Deliah but I think she's Cade's first love (and hey, maybe she's the "One True" to boot, I don't know) rather than his last.
Of course, I quite genuinely believe that Cade is going to sleep through the entire female cast (barring his close blood relatives - though he'll definitely KISS Gunner) so there's no need to take anything I say seriously.
Still, I must say, I was pleasantly surprised by the revelation that Cade is in love with (or says he is, but I'm going to take him at his word) Deliah. I... had kinda always seen the major interest being one way, with Cade more or less saying: "Sure, whatever" the entire time.
Darth-Ghost posted:
Last but not least, who is this new character Azlyn Rae?
Princess Leia in disguise.
BTW: Would it be bad form for Dark Horse to emblazon: "The Perfect Cure For the Loltiff Blues" beneath the title of Legacy? I'd buy THREE ISSUES every time if they did that.
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I'm betting that Zeltrons have some of the best and most effective birth control ever developed in the Galaxy as a whole, considering their proclivities and the fact they don't seem to have the negative population issues that would come from unbridled breeding.
We're not getting a half-Zeltron Skywalker unless it's quite deliberate.
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Again no guarantee Cade/Deliah kids would be Pink. We don't know how odd color near Human + normal human kids turn out. We know of at least one bigoted imperial(with normal skintone) with orange and blue skintoned near humans in his ancestry so even if Cade and Deliah had pink kids. Just skip ahead a few generations for the next Skywalker lead and any problem people have with a non baseline human skintone Skywalker is solved.
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Ulicus
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DarkScythe posted:
Again no guarantee Cade/Deliah kids would be Pink.
If not, I'd be disappointed. 
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Ulicus posted:
DarkScythe posted:
Again no guarantee Cade/Deliah kids would be Pink.
If not, I'd be disappointed.
Same here truthfully. I've always liked the look of Zeltrons but then again Red and it's various shades is probably my favorite Color.
The bad eighties fashion only adds to the appeal.
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Re: Cade & Love.
Zeltrons, and Deliah, are empaths. If Cade was lying, Deliah would stand an excellent chance at knowing it. She can feel what he's feeling.
If he'd been lying, I think he'd've ended up tossed out against a bulkhead, not urging Artoo to leave them be. 
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