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MistrX
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5/10 8:19am
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RE: Legacy #23: Loyalties
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I think she just got pushed off of the ledge.
And that makes six Jedi. Though half of them are dead now.
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BobaMatt
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MistrX posted:
And that makes six Jedi. Though half of them are dead now.
Like a Hydra.
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Emperor_Time
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It that true that there are humans from 4000 BBY that are still alive on Iego? 
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BobaMatt
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No?
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Emperor_Time
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But it true since I read it in the "Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds" Sourcebook.
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Jedi Ben
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5/10 12:24pm
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Dammit!
I was ready, prepared, I had a rant written in my head and what does Ostrander do in response? He delivers another stunning issue!
I had the sense that Rav didn't get kiled off here and was inclined to advocate the need for some villainous corpses in Legacy and then bought the issue today and what happens? It goes up in smoke!
Instead we have Cade delivering a wonderfully exceuted and utterly deserved arse-kickinbg upon Rav! I half-expected Syn to quip: You ever read The Force, Ezekiel 25:17? He then extracts an oath from Rav, only for Rav to swear the same oath to Maladi a few panels later. It is inevitable Cade is going to find out about that, so what happens then? It ain't going to be pretty.
Any other comic would have been content to simply deal with Rav-Cade plot but not this one, oh no! Instead we get development of:
1. The relationship between Antares Draco and Marasiah Fel
2. A look at what Fel is planning and an indication of how the Knights serve the Emperor.
3. An addressing of Cade's actions in the Sith Temple and a reconcilation between him and Blue.
4. A new character, Bantha Hawk who's fending off a Black Sun attack!
So that's 5 plots surging forward in a single 22-page issue to which it must be asked: Are John and Jan insanely ambitious with this? I'd say so, but if that's insanity - count me in!
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Jedimarine
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5/10 6:41pm
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Draco and Cade get some play!
And sheesh Deliah gets hotter with each passing issue. 
So when do we get the special "Ladies of Legacy" beach edition!
I'll buy that for a dollar! 
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RebelGrrl
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5/10 7:18pm
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There's a preview for #24 in SW Insider you'd enjoy, Jedimarine
I loved this issue. It was like getting two or three issues all in one!
I'm of two minds on what the mission is for Draco/Krieg/Fel. The way I see it, there are two valid choices given that Marasiah's been assigned to it.
1> Find Cade Skywalker and contain him by one of the three methods Fel III mentions: incarceration, embalming, or recruiting
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2> The trio is actually going to be sent to negotiate the alliance with Admiral Gar Stazi and the GA remnant. Princess Marasiah would be a particularly good choice for such a mission, and could logically be empowered to represent her father.
I am curious about the figure tailing the Mynock and I can't wait to find out who that is and who this person is working for!
Poor, poor Antares, caught between his willful sovereign and his willful girlfriend! I loved it!
On actually reading the issue, Deliah did seem to forgive Cade very quickly, but to me it was not unrealistic. I think she wanted to stop being mad at him, but Captain Oblivious was not making it at all easy! Cade finally put it together and manned up to talk to her after Kee, the only other girl present, gave him a clue. Of course Deliah could not make it easy for Cade, especially since he was being a clueless nerfherder. I also think her natural Zeltron empathy played a role in detecting Cade's sincerity and true emotions. I'd have to say that it'd be far easier to forgive a boyfriend if I could actually see his feelings, too!
I can't wait for the next issue!
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BobaMatt
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5/10 10:10pm
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RE: Legacy #23: Loyalties
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I didn't think she forgave him quickly, because...well I don't think she was mad at him for cheating, I think she was mad in general that she didn't mean to Cade what he meant to her. I think on some level she realized her jealousy was just gut reaction, that Cade's right about having to make her think he was a Sith - whether he enjoyed her or not - and finally that what she had with Cade was tenuous, anyway, and possibly not permanent. I think she was mad because it seemed like validation of what she had always suspected: that Cade didn't want her for anything but sex, that he didn't return her feelings.
I don't think she expected him to say what he said to her. I don't get the impression he's ever said anything of the sort.
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Cletus1901
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5/11 1:39am
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Are we sure that Azlyn Rae is a female? I mean, the being in question was masked and wearing a loose cloak. I didn't see an outline of its body at all really.
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Jedi Trace
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RebelGrrl: On actually reading the issue, Deliah did seem to forgive Cade very quickly, but to me it was not unrealistic. I think she wanted to stop being mad at him, but Captain Oblivious was not making it at all easy! Cade finally put it together and manned up to talk to her after Kee, the only other girl present, gave him a clue.
“Captain Oblivious”  He was adorably daft, was he not?
Although brief, I really liked the scene with Kee. (What's the line from Shakespeare in Love? "Takes a woman to know it.") She and Deliah may have bristled on each other, but her comments gave me the impression that there was some Girl Talk at some point.
BobaMatt: I didn't think she forgave him quickly, because...well I don't think she was mad at him for cheating, I think she was mad in general that she didn't mean to Cade what he meant to her. […] I don't think she expected him to say what he said to her. I don't get the impression he's ever said anything of the sort.
I kinda thought the same thing. Cade had made the comment that he always knew how Deliah felt about him but, at the same time, he was pretty dismissive of her back then. Perhaps this was the first time that he actually verbalized his feelings. That, plus the fact that he didn’t try to gloss over the time with Talon or pretend it didn’t happen, probably had a lot to do with her reaction. Can’t beat good, old-fashioned honesty.
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BobaMatt
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5/11 10:03am
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Yeah. I mean, I don't think merely saying "I love you" is a cure all in domestic spats, I just think that in this case it was, and not just because it was the first time he said it but because she never suspected he did.
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Musing
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5/11 10:13am
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RebelGrrl: Poor, poor Antares, caught between his willful sovereign and his willful girlfriend! I loved it!
Yeah, especially since I doubt she's doing it solely because of how she feels about him. She doesn't tell him "I love you" outright as he has, and it's ambiguous as to what she's very sure about. Who knows - she might be actually be planning to take over from her father, with or without his consent, and is subverting Antares to that end. After all, he's the leader of the Imperial Knights and has already shown that he'd disobey Roan for her sake. And Ganner has demonstrated that he would follow Antares' lead.
BobaMatt: I didn't think she forgave him quickly, because...well I don't think she was mad at him for cheating, I think she was mad in general that she didn't mean to Cade what he meant to her. I think on some level she realized her jealousy was just gut reaction, that Cade's right about having to make her think he was a Sith - whether he enjoyed her or not - and finally that what she had with Cade was tenuous, anyway, and possibly not permanent. I think she was mad because it seemed like validation of what she had always suspected: that Cade didn't want her for anything but sex, that he didn't return her feelings.
I don't think she expected him to say what he said to her. I don't get the impression he's ever said anything of the sort.
I have to agree. I don't think Cade loves Deliah for who she is, but for what she does for him. He differentiates between her and Darth Talon by saying she takes the darkness away. That's similar to the reason that he uses deathsticks - to numb the constant ache that life has become for him since Ossus. Deliah makes him feel good, but nothing that lasts for long. She's another way for him to avoid having to confront his inner demons. Without her skills as a mechanic, I doubt he'd go to as much effort to keep her around. That moment of honesty aside, Cade still an emotional mess and an immature junkie to boot.
Deliah should focus her energies on R2D2 instead. He's a lot more worthwhile, and besides, he's way overdue for a love interest of his own. 
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BobaMatt
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Ha...actually what I meant is that when Deliah saw Cade kissing Talon and had to deal with her feelings, believing that Cade wasn't thinking about her, too, she reached a breaking point, realizing she was wasting her time. She then found she was wrong: Cade loves her after all.
I find it funny he sent Artoo away, though. Check out the first panel she appears in: one can only imagine what she and our favorite blue droid were up to before Cade arrived.
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Jedi Trace
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Musing: I gotta disagree with your summation of Cade. Future issues could prove me wrong, but I really don't think Cade would go to the trouble of reconciling with Deliah if she was nothing more than a mechanic and feel-good warm body in his bed. They may have started like that (we don't know) but I'm guessing that Cade probably had a lot of time to re-think his life while in Sith temple and came to a realization of his own about his relationship with Deliah.
And I'd like to think that Deliah would have enough self-respect not to hang around if she suspected that he was lying and/or truly just using her.
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