Author Topic: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Earthknight 
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Date Posted: 1/27 12:59pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
For continuity sake, he better stay a raving lunatic.

 

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SithGirl132 
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Date Posted: 1/27 1:46pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
I'm hoping that the Fett plotline gets tied up, so Invincible can concentrate more on Jacen and the main plotline. Anyhow, we know how much Traviss likes Mandalorians, so in all likelihood we'll see the end of them here.
Revelations: Jacen is a Sith! And Allana's father! He killed Mara! I hope that's what we'll see- setting up for Invincible as action-filled and lots of battles.
However it seems like LOTF in general has had a lot of loose ends and has a lot to wrap up in only two books. It moved very fast, but now we're faced with the problem of so much to do and only two books left.
I'd honestly rather see more of Jacen as a tragic hero figure, becoming more evil through the misguided ways of the Sith, allowed to be a raving lunatic only in his occasional temper fits.
I already ordered the book on Amazon. Does anyone know if they ship exactly on the release date, a little before, or a little after?

 

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Sinrebirth 
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Date Posted: 1/27 3:51pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Lord_Vivec posted:
Lord_Boney posted:
I suspect Niathal will attempt a coup against Solo, who will then kill her, and declare himself Emperor, or sole Chief of State, or something. Jacen will then score a victory against the Confederation, nearly destroying it. I hope Traviss writes Jacen like in Sacrifice, and not as the raving lunatic Allston and Denning turned him into.

Jacen is a raving lunatic.


Well...

I just wrote a long counter-essay, and then ended up agreeing.

Yes, he is a raving lunatic, and it was Vergere who broke him, and no matter how I argue it, he was destined to go insane. However, I argue it is in-fact logical insanity. I could justify everything Jacen does from TUF onwards, but it's a very long essay.

 

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leia7 
Registered: Apr '07
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Date Posted: 1/27 5:33pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)

They already know that Jacen is Allana's father.

Revelations will be Jacen as a sith lord and hopefully something about Vergere.

The previews mentioned in Fury are confusing, since they give the impression they already know Jacen is a sith lord. So, the revelation has to happen pretty early in the book, setting up a larger revelation later.

 

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YVH 
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Date Posted: 1/27 5:44pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
leia7 posted:

They already know that Jacen is Allana's father.


There's no indication that Han or Leia told anyone, even Luke. They could've blabbed it out the universe, they could've seeked confirmation from Tenel Ka and left the matter at rest, they could've only told Luke.

 

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leia7 
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Date Posted: 1/27 5:57pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
YVH posted:
leia7 posted:

They already know that Jacen is Allana's father.


There's no indication that Han or Leia told anyone, even Luke. They could've blabbed it out the universe, they could've seeked confirmation from Tenel Ka and left the matter at rest, they could've only told Luke.


If they don't tell Luke, that will show that the series is getting absurd. They don't have to blab it, and probably wouldn't since Allana would be in more danger. But, telling Luke and Tenel Ka would be minimal. Sad to say, but this would give Luke hope that Jacen could be brought back from the dark side - because he would see the parallel with his own father, setting up another Skywalker-Solo argument and prolonging the book.

 

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Lord_Vivec 
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Date Posted: 1/27 6:57pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Sinrebirth posted:
I could justify everything Jacen does from TUF onwards, but it's a very long essay.

Nearly anything can be justified. All one has to do is rearrange their priorities.

 

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SithGirl132 
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Date Posted: 1/27 7:32pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Where is this essay, Sinre? I'd love to read it.
And I do agree, that Jacen is insane but it's easy to see what happened and how he got there.

 

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Earthknight 
Registered: Oct '02
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Date Posted: 1/27 10:58pm Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed) - Date Edited: 1/27 10:59pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Earthknight
leia7 posted:
YVH posted:
leia7 posted:

They already know that Jacen is Allana's father.


There's no indication that Han or Leia told anyone, even Luke. They could've blabbed it out the universe, they could've seeked confirmation from Tenel Ka and left the matter at rest, they could've only told Luke.


If they don't tell Luke, that will show that the series is getting absurd. They don't have to blab it, and probably wouldn't since Allana would be in more danger. But, telling Luke and Tenel Ka would be minimal. Sad to say, but this would give Luke hope that Jacen could be brought back from the dark side - because he would see the parallel with his own father, setting up another Skywalker-Solo argument and prolonging the book.


They are not going to tell Luke. In lotF, people like Han and Leia aren't that smart. I mean, Ben tried to Leia that Jacen might've killed Mara. Remember her intelligent response doh! .

 

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Zorrixor 
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Date Posted: 1/28 2:48am Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed) - Date Edited: 1/28 2:50am (3 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
Earthknight posted:
leia7 posted:
If they don't tell Luke, that will show that the series is getting absurd. They don't have to blab it, and probably wouldn't since Allana would be in more danger. But, telling Luke and Tenel Ka would be minimal. Sad to say, but this would give Luke hope that Jacen could be brought back from the dark side - because he would see the parallel with his own father, setting up another Skywalker-Solo argument and prolonging the book.


They are not going to tell Luke. In lotF, people like Han and Leia aren't that smart. I mean, Ben tried to Leia that Jacen might've killed Mara. Remember her intelligent response doh! .

Ah, yes, be prepared for another episode of the Spectacularly Stupid Skywalkers. rolling_eyes

Leia: Luke, meet Allana, she's Jacen's daughter.
Luke: I demand proof!
Leia: But she's right here Luke. She's the one who told us.
Luke: Lies! Jacen must have mind rubbed her to trick us into believing he can be saved!
Leia: But Luke...
Luke: I know! She must be Lumiya's daughter Brisha come to decieve us!
Leia: Luke...
Luke: Unless there is wedding night footage I shall not believe more of Jacen's lies!

Don't pretend you'd be surprised if it happened. tongue

 

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DarthSanctimonious 
Registered: Sep '06
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Date Posted: 1/28 4:26am Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Commander5052 posted:
In all seriousness, though, I am looking forward to the conclusion of the Fett story arc.

I'm looking forward to the Fett story arc being over.

 

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JEDI-SOLO 
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Date Posted: 1/28 8:12am Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
I want to see some dirt on Vergere unended!

 

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_Erasmus_ 
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Date Posted: 1/28 8:42am Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
DarthSanctimonious posted:
Commander5052 posted:
In all seriousness, though, I am looking forward to the conclusion of the Fett story arc.

I'm looking forward to the Fett story arc being over.


I'm looking forward to the Mandolorians being wiped out between LotF and Legacy.

 

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Earthknight 
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17779_Kyle Katarn
Date Posted: 1/28 8:53am Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Zorrixor posted:
Earthknight posted:
leia7 posted:
If they don't tell Luke, that will show that the series is getting absurd. They don't have to blab it, and probably wouldn't since Allana would be in more danger. But, telling Luke and Tenel Ka would be minimal. Sad to say, but this would give Luke hope that Jacen could be brought back from the dark side - because he would see the parallel with his own father, setting up another Skywalker-Solo argument and prolonging the book.


They are not going to tell Luke. In lotF, people like Han and Leia aren't that smart. I mean, Ben tried to Leia that Jacen might've killed Mara. Remember her intelligent response doh! .

Ah, yes, be prepared for another episode of the Spectacularly Stupid Skywalkers. rolling_eyes

Leia: Luke, meet Allana, she's Jacen's daughter.
Luke: I demand proof!
Leia: But she's right here Luke. She's the one who told us.
Luke: Lies! Jacen must have mind rubbed her to trick us into believing he can be saved!
Leia: But Luke...
Luke: I know! She must be Lumiya's daughter Brisha come to decieve us!
Leia: Luke...
Luke: Unless there is wedding night footage I shall not believe more of Jacen's lies!

Don't pretend you'd be surprised if it happened. tongue


I can actually picture this happening. Also this:

Ben: Everyone! I have proof that Jacen killed my mom.
Luke and Leia: Sure, Ben.
Ben: But look. Look at the evidence.
Leia: Ben, you do know that it's probably false evidence that was planted by Alema to throw us all off. We're not that stupid.
Ben: hypnotized doh!

 

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Lord_Vivec 
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Date Posted: 1/28 9:00am Subject: RE: The official Legacy of the Force: Revelation discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Now I know how conspiracy theorists feel.

 

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