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SithStarSlayer  8653 posts
Registered: Oct '03
40005_Quinlan Vos
Date Posted: 5/29/08 1:28pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5) - Date Edited: 5/29/08 1:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: SithStarSlayer
EDIT:
Dang it! I took too long to type it! laugh

PLOT SUMMARY:
(Really short)


The Uhumele crew thinks they are about to sell the crate to some Colonel Clink look alike with a 'stache. Except Vader and the 501st are waiting in shadow. The bad guys get the crate underground, Colonel Clink unlocks a Snivvian memoir... and tries warn Vader as he slashes the outer-box open. (The Uhumele crew is chained to posts around Dreypa's oubliette) Celeste comes to, (sees that Karness Muur's spirit is still with her) and finds out she's been in stasis for 40 millenia. She doesn't sense that Vader is a Sith when he pops the lid, but after getting a few answers, she attacks the DLOS.
Vader taunts her, mocks her about embracing power and she says: "NEVER!"

and there is the cliffhangar somebody else mentioned a few pages back...

 

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JediAlly  3322 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 3:01pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
Man, Bomo seems to be getting the wrong kind of luck these days. And without that kind of luck, he would have none whatsoever.

And is it just me, or does Celeste seem to be losing it? Understandable under the circumstances, but that only makes her more dangerous.

 

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Strika23  251 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 3:11pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
*spoilers*





I really enjoyed this issue, the art was beautiful. considering how the art in past vector's has been, this issue was definatley a change for the better.
It was really cool to see Gryph and Zayne in a holo, and have more of a backstory on how this oubliette was found.
It was also nice to see celeste drawn how she is supposed to look, compared to her psycho-chipmunk look from Kotor vector. I feel bad for her, poor girl was locked in there for 4000 years. She is in shock when she wakes up, but Vader is very calm with her and tells her he doesnt want to hurt her. She goes beserk, and as the issue ends vader tells her she is tapping into the darkside and she says "never". I wonder how things will turn out next issue, I hope the crew from the uhumele escapes and celeste doesnt go back in stasis!

 
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QuinineVos  640 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 4:06pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
Does it strike anybody else as odd that in the hundreds of years that the oubliette has been fought over, nobody else has yet managed to open it?

 
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SithStarSlayer  8653 posts
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40005_Quinlan Vos
Date Posted: 5/29/08 4:08pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5) - Date Edited: 5/29/08 4:51pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Rogue_Follower
Here are few (MAJOR) spoiler panels... enjoy.

RF: Don't post whole-page scans like this.

And these two are kriffing awesome...
[image=http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z274/EyeBashBadWriti ng/VaderVersusCeleste2.jpg]

 

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Jeff_Ferguson  1673 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 4:42pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5) - Date Edited: 5/29/08 4:43pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jeff_Ferguson
Manisphere posted:
Canada rules!!

Course there is no one to discuss this issue with until tomorrow. whistling


Wait, we had this issue yesterday? Man, I held off going to my LCS until today 'cause I thought the delay affected us too. Oh well! Life goes on. grin

I really enjoyed this issue. I'm a big fan of Dark Times in general, but there was something that felt so... right about having Wheatley back on the job. The crew of the Uhumele were drawn wonderfully, Darth Vader was back in all of his Wheatley-glory, and as Strika23 said, Celeste was drawn the way she was meant to be drawn. The panel where she screamed "I should have sensed it sooner!' was just... wow, that panel was fantastic. The scan provided by SithStarSlayer doesn't do it justice, either. Pick up the issue; Celeste is drawn fantastically throughout. I also really liked Wheatley's take on the Gryph; though I wasn't too sure about his Zayne. Excellently drawn, but was a very different Zayne then what we're used to. Even so, it was a lot better than Bong Dazo's Zayne that we also got today.

It's funny --- Back in this thread, Wheatley promised that the kind of delays that we saw with The Path To Nowhere wouldn't happen again --- and it looks like he's a man of his word. happy After being thrown off by KOTOR, it's Dark Times that has put Vector back on track! dancing I didn't think that this would happen until June or July.

Wheatley's artwork, while its usual gorgeous self, was a bit different than in The Path To Nowhere. Not in a negative sense, at all --- it still had all of the detail he usually puts into his pencils, but some panels seemed different than others, and were slightly reminiscent of Brian Ching's work on Obsession, which I loved. It might have been the colourist, but there was definitely a unique twist put on some of the panels which really caught my eye.

Enough pining over the art! mischief I actually quite liked the plot, too. Though it was primarily about Darth Vader, Celeste, and Karness Muur --- that is, primarily about Vector rather than about Dark Times, there was still great character work done on the crew of the Uhumele. Captain Heren faced bitter feelings from Chrys Taanzer, and then later went on to feel like he had let his entire crew down, again --- an emotion that was brilliantly conveyed through nothing more than the way Doug Wheatley drew his face, a facial expression that managed to tell so much --- and by the end of the issue, knew it was up to him to rescue his crew from the madness they were witnessing. In a way, I feel like Schurk-Heren shone in this issue moreso than ever before.

There was also something very, very cool about Karness Muur being there in spirit-form the entire time. And his reaction when he found out that the Sith had overthrown the Republic? Awesome.

Man, everything about this issue was awesome. Ahhhh, I love Dark Times... I'm going to go do some more updating to its Wookieepedia article!

Edit: Forgot to mention Janks. Poor guy will probably still be in captivity by the end of this arc. I hope we see him rescued some time in the future.

 

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Nobody145  2171 posts
Registered: Feb '07
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 6:56pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
No offense, but the Captain of the Uhumele seems really naive, since everybody but him senses a trap when they try to sell the "Jebble Box" as its called now to someone who shouldn't have enough money to buy it. Everybody but him is justifiably paranoid after the last "sale" turned out so well. He still seems a good captain, he just doesn't choose good buyers.

Zayne and Gryph's cameo appearances were wonderful, especially with how Gryph was... exaggerating his own role in the whole affair, and then Zayne comes on-camera and asks what Gryph is doing, and Gryph says "my memoirs". Apparently that's what tipped off some people to the Jebble box. Although I do wonder when Gryph made that recording. Doesn't seem like any time in the near future would be a good time for making memoirs. Although Zayne doesn't look that much older in the holo either, so its hard to tell when the memoirs were made. Not to mention, if Gryph was kinda bragging about sealing the Oubilette, I wonder why (maybe Zayne had more visions or who knows what relating to Celeste). The records came from Muunilist, a money capital, but not sure if that's anywhere near where Zayne is or will be (and records can travel a long way in 4,000 years). Though glad to see some record of Zayne has survived, even if its in evil hands now. (I hated how that JvS Guide showed the Covenant Masters as just regular good Jedi.)

Ah, so that old guy seems to be some sort of Sith researcher, and he's (understandably) afraid of being turned into a Rakghoul. On the bright side, it sounds like the Rakghouls were wiped out centuries ago. The Jebble Box was dug up... 1400 years ago on Jebble, and has been fought over since then. Too bad

Celeste still seems somewhat sane, but she's rapidly losing it. At least it appears she was asleep (or unconscious at least) for the 4,000 years she was stuck in there. We actually see Muur's spirit, and he's pissed at being somewhat immortal and stuck in a box for thousands of years. She asks about Zayne, but doesn't seem instantly mad about him leaving her there for millenia. Not much records are left about the Covenant, so guess not all of Gryph's "memoirs" were found, and at first Celeste is happy to hear the Mandalorians didn't overthrow the Republic, but then it turned out the Sith took over. And unlike certain other recent crappy EU works *cough*LotF*cough*, here people actually seem to know what Sith are ("member of an evil religion"). Too bad Dass Jennir isn't here to provide a contemporary Jedi perspective, and with only one issue left (especially with the series going on hiatus after this), doubt he'll show up. Celeste has yellow eyes the whole time, so guess she's still being corrupted, but at least she's still following her "Sith=bad" instincts. Vader actually acts sort of gentle with her, but he's already pushing to corrupt her too.

Great artwork, and really nice grim atmosphere, though this isn't going to end well of course, especially given Rebellion's blurb. Celeste throws Vader around a bit, but Vader's still new at the Sith thing, and he's probably holding back, but Karness seems very active at the moment, so who knows how far their fight will go. And the poor Uhumele crew is stuck in the middle. Great issue, and at least Dark Times will end on a high note with great art.

 

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SithStarSlayer  8653 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 7:02pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
Rogue_Follower posted:
RF: Don't post whole-page scans like this.
My bad. At least I got the other two right.

 

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R_Zion  1283 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 7:02pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
I must ask...does Wheatley's Gryph actually look like a Snivvian or is it more similar to the stylized versions of him? Just to see Gryph and Zayne done by him alone is enough to go looking for this issue!

 

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SithStarSlayer  8653 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 7:09pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5) - Date Edited: 5/29/08 7:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: SithStarSlayer


And here is a slightly modded version of, Karness Muur.

 

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Date Posted: 5/29/08 7:10pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5) - Date Edited: 5/29/08 7:12pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
This issue was Wheatastic! His art just feels so right for this series- the crazygood renditions of Vader, given his prominence in the story here, make his panels have an added level of emotion and power. That panel of Celeste in Vader's arms is particularly memorable.

Nobody145 posted:
And unlike certain other recent crappy EU works *cough*LotF*cough*, here people actually seem to know what Sith are ("member of an evil religion").


The captain knew what a Sith was, but the others, including Bomo, didn't. It's still not a commonly known thing.

 

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Nobody145  2171 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 7:35pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
True, but its nice to see someone knew what a Sith was, especially someone who seems to just be a normal spacer, whereas in LotF, even Luke couldn't really bother to explain what a Sith is, and it just basically comes down to Luke saying "Sith are evil Jedi according to Mandalorians" and the response is "so, no big difference?" or something like that. Sorry for the whining, its just my brain is still recovering from the LotF train-wreck. The comics have so much better writers, I'm just sad this is one of the last Dark Times issues for a while.

Too bad the Uhumele crew can't just dump the Jebble Box on some random planet, it seems like the thing is way more trouble than its worth. Sure, rich collectors might be willing to pay a fortune for it, but if they're that rich, they're also likely to just hire their own private armies and take the box. Wonder how they're going to get out of this predicament, whether the Captain will do it, or Bomo will have another badass moment. Personally, I'm hoping its the latter.

 

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Date Posted: 5/29/08 9:10pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
Nobody145 posted:
Although I do wonder when Gryph made that recording.


I won't get into when Gryph composed the narrative or why -- that's to be learned in coming issues of KOTOR -- but he's done one before. If you check out Hyperspace, you'll find "Labor Pains," one of his previous memoirs in the same style.

It was a lot of fun to see the little guy immortalized in the future like this!

 

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Date Posted: 5/29/08 9:44pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
Great issue! It's good to see what happens to Celeste, after four thousand years. But I truly feel sorry for her.

It's sad to know that DT will go on hiatus after this next issue. I'm going to miss seeing Dass Jennir, Bomo, Crys, and Ratty!

 
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Strika23  251 posts
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Date Posted: 5/29/08 10:19pm Subject: RE: Dark Times #11: Vector (Part 5)
Psychodragon posted:
Great issue! It's good to see what happens to Celeste, after four thousand years. But I truly feel sorry for her.

It's sad to know that DT will go on hiatus after this next issue. I'm going to miss seeing Dass Jennir, Bomo, Crys, and Ratty!


I agree with you, the entire issue I felt really, really sorry for her sad .

 
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