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Valin__Kenobi Title: Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 6/13 4:04pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	Zorrixor posted: SWTOR.com posted: Dark Lord of the Sith Naga Sadow led his armies in an aggressive campaign to destroy the Galactic Republic. Though the Sith were successful at first, the Jedi Order rallied back to defeat their dark counterparts, systematically destroying the Sith civilization on Korriban. Unbeknownst to the Jedi however, the last Emperor of the Sith managed to escape the carnage and fled into Deep Space with his most trusted Dark Lords. Random thought, but reading that part of the Sith history again... how feasible would it be that Naga Sadow was never the Emperor, but rather just one of the Dark Lords of a larger Empire? i.e. the Dark Lord of the "Korriban Sector", appointed by the Sith Council of Sith Lords of the "Korriban Sector"; but with there still being an Emperor of the wider Sith Empire? As a Dark Lord, that would then just have made Naga Sadow one of many "Grand Admirals", so to speak, and his invasion only the first offensive of a much larger Great Hyperspace War. In essence, he'd just have been a rogue admiral who made a pre-emptive strike without obtaining the backing of the Dark Council (the Council of Dark Lords not just the regional Sith Council of Sith Lords) and the Emperor. I very much hope that is not the case, as I badly want the Emperor to just be someone who arises during the aftermath of the Great Hyperspace War... but reading that page again all the talk of Dark Lords as not being the Emperor tweaked my suspicion. Agreed. I hate the idea of retconning Sadow in the manner that you suggest ... it completely undermines the point of GAOTS and FSE and makes him and his Korriban Sith out to be complete chumps. Boo. -----signature----- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Fanboy: http://blogs.starwars.com/valinkenobi Generation Bantam/KJA/WEG "Before the "Oprah effect" bookstores were like monasteries. Now it's like going to Best Buy." -- Arawn_Fenn
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Lord_Hydronium Title: Literature Gardener Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 6/13 7:48pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	The Korriban Sith were already chumps. But yes, diminishing Sadow would be unfortunate. -----signature----- Great midis have little midis Swimming round inside 'em And little midis have lesser midis And so ad infinitum.
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 6/13 8:59pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	"Your progressive ways will ruin the Sith Empire, Naga Sadow!" "They've killed old Simus!" "They are monsters." Yeah, "chump" and "KJA character" kind of go hand in hand. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?"
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QuentinGeorge Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 6/13 10:15pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	Still, no reason to make any KJA-penned events or characters any stupider than they are at the moment. -----signature----- Yar
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Vrook_Lamar Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 6/14 2:59am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	QuentinGeorge posted: Still, no reason to make any KJA-penned events or characters any stupider than they are at the moment. It should be salvaged rather than written off at least.
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Sven_Starcrown Registered: Mar '09	Date Posted: 6/15 12:07am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	By the way, some Tor themed icons are up. http://boards.theforce.net/UserPages/Icons.aspx?orderbydate=1 -----signature----- Nobody's perfect. There was never a perfect person around. You just have half-angel and half-devil in you.
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Hendo255 Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/15 11:59am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?] - Date Edited: 6/15 12:00pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Hendo255
	BETA is close! Well their private beta at least... he's a snip from an interview with the developers on the last day of E3 Gophn.com: Well, another thing we were wondering was when you get to beta stage, are you going to be having a certain amount of groups doing beta to test how it handles on the servers? GW: Well, it’s a long time until we do that. Gophn.com: Oh, I understand. GW: We are close to beta though. Close to beta we are running through our own community. We have people signed up. We have about a quarter million people signed up. And we understand what their system specs are. So you know we’ll start with a lot of small testing and we’ll move on from there. Again, we’ve done a lot of in-house testing with outside people already. We do a lot of focus testing. We do a lot of version builds testing along the way because you can’t really make games without consumer feedback. http://www.gophn.com/star-wars-the-old-republic-e3-2009-interview/ -----signature----- Zayne is the Sith Emperor. Both use the Force, both lived around the same time and Zayne is friends with Gryph who is a notorious con-artist. See! it all fits together perfectly!
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 6/16 10:44pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?] - Date Edited: 6/16 11:02pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Ulicus
	So, I finally saw that ancient announcement video. This caught my attention: Daniel Erickson, senior writer guy posted: One of the things that’s happened in the meantime, in between them, is that the Sith Empire – the Ancient Sith Empire – has actually been rediscovered. What we had before this in KotOR is we had people who were creating... sort of recreating the Sith Empire, and coming back declared themselves Sith and then had a bunch of people they said were their Sith Empire. Now we have the actual Sith Empire, which means we’re not conquering one planet, we’re coming in en masse. So, the Sith Empire has re-emerged, gone to war with the Republic, has really ground the Republic into the ground and then there was a very tenuous peace... What the heck? Like, the first two sentences make sense but, come on, from what we've seen the Revanchist Sith Empire was considerably more successful than the 'actual' one, given that they were poised to conquer the galaxy after only two/three years or so whereas the 'actual' one has... uh... well, been taking it's sweet, sweet time. (Which'll be cool if it turns out the Emperor is deliberately impeding his own Empire... otherwise not) Then again, I suppose the Star Forge was a pretty large advantage.... Don't know what this "we're not conquering one planet" thing is supposed to mean, either. Unless we're supposed to believe that the Revanchist Empire conquered one world at a time? EDIT: As an aside, it'd be kind of cool/interesting if the Republic of the KotOR era officially refused to acknowledge the Sith Empire as the Sith "Empire", seeing it instead as the "Sith Rebellion" of would-be secessionists led by their Revanchist Jedi Lords (given that it's basically ex-Republic vs Republic). That would jive with the KotOR having the Republic referring to the "Sith" almost exclusively, as opposed to the "Empire" or "Imperials".# Jedi (instigated and led) Civil War also makes more sense as a name if the Republic never acknowledged the Revanchist Sith Empire's claims to being a sovereign power. -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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Valin__Kenobi Title: Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 6/16 11:37pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	-----signature----- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Fanboy: http://blogs.starwars.com/valinkenobi Generation Bantam/KJA/WEG "Before the "Oprah effect" bookstores were like monasteries. Now it's like going to Best Buy." -- Arawn_Fenn
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 6/16 11:48pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	Valin__Kenobi posted: At my post ( ) or the quote contained within? ( ) I nabbed that image from KT's livejournal to use on mine, incidentally. -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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Valin__Kenobi Title: Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 6/16 11:56pm Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?] - Date Edited: 6/17 12:30am (3 edits total) Edited By: Valin__Kenobi
	At the quote contained within. "You thought our original Sith were bad enough, but--psych!!--these guys are the real Sith and they're 200% more evil than before, even though they've just sat on their hands for three centuries until now" ... well, "daft" is the best word that comes to mind. -----signature----- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Fanboy: http://blogs.starwars.com/valinkenobi Generation Bantam/KJA/WEG "Before the "Oprah effect" bookstores were like monasteries. Now it's like going to Best Buy." -- Arawn_Fenn
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masterskywalker Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 6/17 12:35am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	And this is surprising because... ? We've known this was coming ever since the end of KOTOR II. -----signature----- Peace to corrupt, no less than war to waste.
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QuentinGeorge Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 6/17 12:35am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	Personally I'd like to see "more mature, for adults like me." appended on before I make a judgement. -----signature----- Yar
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Hendo255 Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/19 9:19am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	I'm getting anxious waiting for today's update lol More so than normal for some reason. -----signature----- Zayne is the Sith Emperor. Both use the Force, both lived around the same time and Zayne is friends with Gryph who is a notorious con-artist. See! it all fits together perfectly!
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JonCrites Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 6/19 9:53am Subject: Star Wars: The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) [Was KotOR III/MMO?]
	I thinked asked this on another thread but I was wondering if anyone knows if the online material will be collected like the Invasion material will be and the Dark Times/MySpace stuff has been.
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