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IcePirate  399 posts
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Date Posted: 2/17/08 8:05pm Subject: Please explain...
PADME: You've been gone five months . . . it's been very hard for me. I've never felt so alone. There's . . .

ANAKIN: . . . Is there someone else?

PADME: (peeved, angry) No! Why do you think that? Your jealousy upsets me so much, Anakin. I do nothing to betray you, yet you still don't trust me. Nothing has changed.

ANAKIN: (sheepish) I'm afraid of losing you, Padme . . . that's all.

PADME: I will never stop loving you, Anakin. My only fear is losing you.

ANAKIN: It's just that I've never seen you like this . . .

PADME: Something wonderful has happened.

They look at each other for a long moment.

PADME: (continuing) I'm . . . Annie, I'm pregnant.

So.... Padme's preggers and barely (if at all) showing. Ani's been away for 5 mos. fighting in the outer rim.
um... is she lying?

 

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BobaMatt  14573 posts
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Date Posted: 2/17/08 11:00pm Subject: RE: Please explain...
She's wearing concealing clothing.

 

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Ris_jSarek  2555 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 2:33am Subject: RE: Please explain...
BobaMatt posted:
She's wearing concealing clothing.


Yep. Apparently, throughout Episode III, she's wearing the pregnancy padding, even in this scene. She just has a very carefully designed wardrobe to hide this fact.

 

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Date Posted: 2/18/08 7:57am Subject: RE: Please explain...
I didn't think she looked really pregnant til the scene where Obi-Wan commented on Anakin being the father. Then of course she switched to the pregnancy-revealing clothing for the trip to Mustafar.

 

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Jedimarine  4897 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:11am Subject: RE: Please explain...
Some women can be pregnant and barely ever show at all...even very slender women.

And as was said...she was layered up...she probably was keeping it well concealed for a good long while, not only so she could let Anakin know herself...but to keep suspicions from growing about her and Anakin...if she hid it and then says she's been pregnant 3 months...speculators would do the math and know Anakin was off fighting and exclude him.

My question is why in the world can't one of the most powerful force users EVER pick up the growing life inside her? He should've known the moment he saw her hiding behind the pillar!

The only thing I can chalk this up to is the rampant selfishness Anakin was channeling at that moment.

*MY WOMAN MY WOMAN MY WOMAN MY WOMAN* drooling

Which then becomes angry jealous channeling:

*THIS IS MY WOMAN!* angry

and then she drops the bomb. shock worried

 

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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:13am Subject: RE: Please explain...
Well, in RoTJ Vader felt the presence of Luke and Palpy didn't. That's a similar thing.

 

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Jedimarine  4897 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:17am Subject: RE: Please explain...
Another thought that just came to mind...never really thought about it til now:

Does anyone else have a hard time imagining Padme and Anakin hooking up?

I mean, I don't know if this was a chemistry mistake in casting or just terrible writing...but the thought of the 2 of them in the sack is about as unnatural as Padme and Palpatine in the sack.

i dunno...it's kind of a weird comment...but when she says she's pregnant...I'm left thinking...she must've cheated on him...these 2 didn't do it...can't be...

The awkwardness of that whole relationship on film is just surreal.

 

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Jedimarine  4897 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:18am Subject: RE: Please explain...
LAJ_FETT posted:
Well, in RoTJ Vader felt the presence of Luke and Palpy didn't. That's a similar thing.


yes, but Vader should have an intimate connection with his own son...and if that's the case in ROTJ, why isn't the case when he's meters from him in ROTS?

 

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LAJ_FETT  28449 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:18am Subject: RE: Please explain... - Date Edited: 2/18/08 8:21am (1 edits total) Edited By: LAJ_FETT
A lot of that might be down to the chemistry of the actors involved though.


Edit (to respond to jm's second post since my original response was to the first one).. Perhaps Vader was actively seeking his son in the Force but Palpy wasn't. If Anakin was unaware of the pregnancy maybe he didn't sense it until she told him.

 

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KnightDawg  816 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:24am Subject: RE: Please explain...
Jedimarine posted:
LAJ_FETT posted:
Well, in RoTJ Vader felt the presence of Luke and Palpy didn't. That's a similar thing.


yes, but Vader should have an intimate connection with his own son...and if that's the case in ROTJ, why isn't the case when he's meters from him in ROTS?


In reality, Palps should've known. But since this is GL...logic gets thrown out at times and now have have to find reasons...ugh doh!

Maybe....the twins were not force sensitive at that part of their development inside of Padme and thus Palps couldn't sense them....I dunno.

 

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Jedimarine  4897 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:25am Subject: RE: Please explain...
KnightDawg posted:
Jedimarine posted:
LAJ_FETT posted:
Well, in RoTJ Vader felt the presence of Luke and Palpy didn't. That's a similar thing.


yes, but Vader should have an intimate connection with his own son...and if that's the case in ROTJ, why isn't the case when he's meters from him in ROTS?


In reality, Palps should've known. But since this is GL...logic gets thrown out at times and now have have to find reasons...ugh doh!

Maybe....the twins were not force sensitive at that part of their development inside of Padme and thus Palps couldn't sense them....I dunno.




I think Palps knew all along that Padme was pregnant...he probably knew before she did...and certainly before Anakin did.

 

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StarscreamPrime  1492 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 3:35pm Subject: RE: Please explain...
Jedimarine posted:
Another thought that just came to mind...never really thought about it til now:

Does anyone else have a hard time imagining Padme and Anakin hooking up?

I mean, I don't know if this was a chemistry mistake in casting or just terrible writing...but the thought of the 2 of them in the sack is about as unnatural as Padme and Palpatine in the sack.

i dunno...it's kind of a weird comment...but when she says she's pregnant...I'm left thinking...she must've cheated on him...these 2 didn't do it...can't be...

The awkwardness of that whole relationship on film is just surreal.


Barring the whole acting situation, is Anakin and Padme hooking up any more unusual than... say... a smuggler and a Princess/former Imperial Senate representative hooking up? Or a Jedi Knight/Rebellion figurehead hooking up with a former Imperial Hand? OR a HUMAN pilot for Rogue Squadron gettin' together with a Bothan female? wink

Their relationship may have been awkward, due to characterization, but the situation itself isn't so unusual in the SW universe.

 

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ATimson  1680 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 6:09pm Subject: RE: Please explain...
StarscreamPrime posted:
Barring the whole acting situation, is Anakin and Padme hooking up any more unusual than... say... a smuggler and a Princess/former Imperial Senate representative hooking up? Or a Jedi Knight/Rebellion figurehead hooking up with a former Imperial Hand? OR a HUMAN pilot for Rogue Squadron gettin' together with a Bothan female?

I wouldn't say that their relationship was unusual; I would say that it escaping the Jedi Order's eyes (especially Obi-Wan's) was.

 

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BobaMatt  14573 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 6:39pm Subject: RE: Please explain...
StarscreamPrime posted:
Jedimarine posted:
Another thought that just came to mind...never really thought about it til now:

Does anyone else have a hard time imagining Padme and Anakin hooking up?

I mean, I don't know if this was a chemistry mistake in casting or just terrible writing...but the thought of the 2 of them in the sack is about as unnatural as Padme and Palpatine in the sack.

i dunno...it's kind of a weird comment...but when she says she's pregnant...I'm left thinking...she must've cheated on him...these 2 didn't do it...can't be...

The awkwardness of that whole relationship on film is just surreal.


Barring the whole acting situation, is Anakin and Padme hooking up any more unusual than... say... a smuggler and a Princess/former Imperial Senate representative hooking up? Or a Jedi Knight/Rebellion figurehead hooking up with a former Imperial Hand? OR a HUMAN pilot for Rogue Squadron gettin' together with a Bothan female? wink

Their relationship may have been awkward, due to characterization, but the situation itself isn't so unusual in the SW universe.

I think the problem is that you said "barring the whole acting situation." That's precisely what he's talking about.

 

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canadianjedimama  1771 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:44pm Subject: RE: Please explain...
ATimson posted:
StarscreamPrime posted:
Barring the whole acting situation, is Anakin and Padme hooking up any more unusual than... say... a smuggler and a Princess/former Imperial Senate representative hooking up? Or a Jedi Knight/Rebellion figurehead hooking up with a former Imperial Hand? OR a HUMAN pilot for Rogue Squadron gettin' together with a Bothan female?

I wouldn't say that their relationship was unusual; I would say that it escaping the Jedi Order's eyes (especially Obi-Wan's) was.



But that's just it, I think that they did know. There is some intimation during the Clone Wars comic where ObiWan calls Anakin to hunt down Asajj Ventress, Anakin is on leave with Padme and doesn't want to go, that they knew where he was and what he was doing. And with whom. tongue

While we know that attachemnts are forbidden, I get the impression that celibacy was not expected. Kind of hipocritical, to my mind at least, of the Jedi Order to be all "sex is okay, you just can't be committed about it." I mean, the EU backstory between Obi Wan and Siri Tachi makes it clear that the physical actions didn't bother them, just the fact that their emotional attachment was against the rules. raised_brow

IMHO, the Order had their heads in the sand about this. They should have known that alot of their Knights were stepping outside the "attachment is forbidden rule". See Kyle Katarn and Kam Solusar's fathers. Both Knights and both were married and had children. There HAD to have been more. mischief

Basically, I guess my point is that the Order was okay with Anakin and Padme. Just as long as they didn't do the moral, ethical and responsible thing and get married. rolling_eyes

 

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BobaMatt  14573 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18/08 8:47pm Subject: RE: Please explain...
canadianjedimama posted:
Just as long as they didn't do the moral, ethical and responsible thing and get married. rolling_eyes

Whose morals and ethics?

The Jedi are against attachment because being against attachment is a good idea for them. Look what it did for Anakin.

And anyway, he was talking about onscreen chemistry.

 

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