NewStaryknight posted: My point is, if we the fans, who are not professional writers, can think up scenarios and plots for Luke to get into for future books, then the likely hood that they can be thought up by the actual people who write stories like these for a living increases IMHO.
Charlemagne19 posted:If I had to give ten examples of a Post-LOTF set of adventures, they'd probably look like this. 10 Post-Legacy of the Force Luke Plots 1. Luke Skywalker goes on a mission to deal with a large number of Jacen Solo Loyalists who've seized a massive fleet around Adumar and its infrastructure to making bombs (they intend to conduct a terror campaign across the galaxy in Jacen's name). Luke has to deal with his feelings towards his nephew's mass murder of so many people and insane philosophy. We gain a depth of feeling for Luke feeling he's lost a son, failed Jacen Solo as a mentor, and his own inner torment. After Luke is nearly killed (the GAG bomb Luke Skywalker from the skies---which even Luke is hard pressed to survive), he's visited by the ghost of his father who helps him come to terms with this loss. 2. Luke Skywalker is dead! That's what the headlines read as the Jedi Council fear their mentor has been killed. The Jedi are thrown into chaos as a young padawan is adopted by a mysterious Jedi Master known as "Biggs." We get an outsiders' view from the little girl on the New Jedi Order. The Jedi Council must cope with a terrorist plot by Chiss Joiners to blow up the temple. In truth, Luke Skywalker used his Fallassai illusions to fake his death as a test for the Jedi. The Jedi Council proves it can function without him and Luke resumes his place, with his new padawan. However, Luke also says that from now on, he's going to feel free to go where the Force wills him on missions that he feels need his touch. Kyp Durron is named "Senior Jedi Master" under the Grandmaster and manages the Council when Luke's off kicking butt. 3. Luke Skywalker finds himself face to face with Darth Krayt. Darth Krayt takes Luke Skywalker to Dromuund Kaas and the Sith Lord blasts Luke Skywalker for his constant failures to bring peace to the galaxy. The two duel as Krayt wages a cat and mouse game using his various students as pawns. Luke Skywalker slays most of them before facing down Krayt. Krayt is badly wounded as Luke says that it's not his responsibility to bring peace to the galaxy, it's his responsibility to TRY TO and to keep working at it no matter what. Krayt has a "ambiguous death" as Luke has wounded him that he must enter a healing trance for a century. 4. Luke Skywalker heads to the Unknown Regions and finds himself face to face with the Celestials, a vast race of ancient and powerful beings that have enough power to devastate the whole of the galaxy with their vast Star Forge like manufacturing units and huge armies of superpowerful droids (including Landos Vuffi Raa). The Chiss have been fighting them for thousands of years. To totally subvert the usual cliches, Luke Skywalker successfully discovers the resting place of the original Celestials (a race of Near-Humans and awakens them), thus ending the huge galaxy spanning war before it begins. 5. Luke Skywalker has a most unusual moment where a bunch of GAG terrorists go to elaborate lengths to steal Luke's hairbrush off all things. Tracking them down, he finds they're part of the Cult of Vergere that reveres the Sith Pigeon's teachings and were Lumiya's former followers. Luke discovers they intended to create a super-child from Luke's DNA and Lumiya's to once more carry out their Sith dreams. Luke confronts Vergeres and Lumiya's Sith ghosts in their ancient temple on the Dxun's Moon. In the end, Luke Skywalker defeats them as he makes his peace with their ghosts (Lumiya's spirit actually apologizing to him for all the pain she caused him) and Luke forgiving her. Then he breaks up the cult before taking their children to better lives. 6. Luke Skywalker discovers Callista has been murdered! Rushing almost immediately to her side, he finds that this is a trap instead by a Corporate Sector Authority Executive whom believes Luke Skywalker as a Jedi Knight possesses an ability to cure the Executive's incurable disease. He finds that Callista actually isn't dead when he discovers that she's in fact a prisoner and meets her daughter, a Jedi Knight that she trained herself. There's some back and forth as to whether Callista's daughter is Luke's child and they deal with the topic frankly. Ultimately, she has a father though and they eventually defeat the executive's horde of Dark Side creatures taken from Korriban and weird traps he's set up. In the end, Luke helps the man by allowing him to suffer no pain and foresees after his forgiveness that he'll devote the rest of his life to making the galaxy a better place. 7. Luke finds himself marooned on a planet wracked by a brutal occupation by Killik Joiners that have seperated from the Hive and adopted the worst elements of Imperials. In truth, Luke discovers they're attempting to gain the individuality of humans. Luke can't fight an entire Killik planet by himself but leads the resistance against them and we get a reminder of Luke the Rebel in miniature. In the end, he manages to seperate all of the Joiners from the Nest Queen's leadership before destroying her. Strangely, the Ex-Joiner that Luke Skywalker has a romance with decides to help them reach the stars and teach them about individuality. 8. Luke Skywalker has to deal with the most awkward challenge of his career. Luke Skywalker discovers that because of his defeat of Supreme Overlord Shimmra and the Resurrected Palpatine, a Cult has emerged around Luke (though one might genuinely call it a religion since it spans several worlds at this point). A lot of humor is derived from the fact that Luke finds out about his father's supposed Virgin Birth here and while he intends to set them straight, he'd disturbed that a lot of the leaders of the cult were people he'd saved in the past and are genuinely looking for meaning in a ravaged galaxy. Luke discovers and thwarts a plot by Die Hard Imperial Loyalists to poison the majority of Luke Skywalker's faith in order to turn Galactic sympathy against him. In the end, he reaffirms that he's just a man and that he hopes they'll revere the values he holds rather than him. Thus, his religion turns to veneration of the Force itself. Some funny romantic tension with the female religious leader who adores Luke as a moral guide. 9. Another funny "You don't see Luke Skywalker in many situations like this" moment, which is what I think authors should do more of instead of rehashing old plots. Luke Skywalker has been left the entire fortune of Tagge Co. by its last surviving Baron. Suddenly a multi-quadrillionaire, Luke intends to sell his shares and set up a foundation to help rebuild Post-Yuuzhan Vong damage. Luke, unsurprisingly, is betrayed by the Tagge heirs who he finds out hate him because he destroyed the Empire/killed Baron Tagge/destroyed the Yuuzhan Vong when they collaborated/defeated Jacen Solo and thus pretty much ruined their fortunes. Thus, they intend to clone Luke and use his good name to rebuild their Empire. Luke rather easilly defeats the spoiled brats despite their armies of mercenaries before finding out that they're just the front men for the Last of the Emperor's High inquisitors. Tremayne has set up explosives or some similiar moral trap all over the city of Tagge with the usual supervillain "Which one will you save" business. In the end, Luke realizes, Tremayne wants Luke to kill him because he has nothing else. Luke denies him this final dignity and the last of the Emperor's Dark Jedi takes his own life. 10. Luke Skywalker is infected by a Yuuzhan Vong disease quite by accident that strips him of his Force Powers for the better part of three months until his body forces out the disease. Luke insists on carrying out his duties as normal and ends up on a comedy of errors where with a grown beard, no one recognizes him and we get to see Luke on the other side of the law when he ends up "commandeering" a smuggler's ship to go chase after one of Jacen Solo's few remaining War Criminal Henchmen. Luke briefly flirts with a widowed mother that's part of the ships crew (much like "Dark Times" heroine)
ChildOfWinds posted:NewStaryknight There are other characters like Ben, Tenel Ka, Allana, Saba, Corran, Kyp, Kyle, Niathal, and an assortment of others including Jacen/Cadeus himself. Well, we already know that Jacen will be facing Jaina and company. So we know his part. I think we know what Niathal will be doing as well. The others are basically secondary characters. It's Luke and Ben that don't seem to have important roles, and they SHOULD! If Ben had been older, he probably would be the one facing Jacen. That would be only right and fair, especially since Jacen tried to turn Ben into a Sith. But getting back on topic, from what I've heard about Invincible, Luke's role seems to be twofold: 1. First to be indecisive about whether he should do his duty and confront Jacen, or whether he should send Jaina instead because he's afraid he might kill Jacen for revenge as he did with Lumiya. He apparently decides to be a wimp and send Jaina. (And, this seems to me to have been a manufactured excuse just to allow Jaina to face her brother and not Luke. It once again diminishes Luke, as far as I'm concerned. I don't think Luke would need to worry about falling to the dark side at this stage of his life and experience. And the very fact that he has a healthy caution about the dark side would keep him from falling, in my opinion.) 2. For some very strange and inexplicable reason, Luke apparently will put an illusion of his face on Jaina, without Jaina even knowing it. HOW will this help??? I simply can't imagine. Adding his Force strength to Jaina's would be a far more valuable help in my opinion! If those are Luke's sole contributions to Invincible, I will be HIGHLY annoyed! NJO had Luke be inactive for the most part but when the last book came he went all out, so hopefully we get the same thing That's what I was hoping, but now that it's practically confirmed that Jaina will be the one to confront Jacen and be the big hero of Invincible, I know that's not going to happen for Luke anymore. It seems that he may be the only major character who will be a background character in Invincible.