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Charlemagne19
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Master_Keralys posted:
Eh... Charles... did you miss the part where the emphasis is on less-discussed or less popular books/entries? 
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Dark Empire qualifies!
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RK_Striker_JK_5
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lol, I'm the YJK expert? When did that happen?
Well, thanks.  I gotta agree with Keralys. The final three would be able to 'stand alone', although there is a lot of establishing stuff in the first three-Qorl, the Neo-Nightsisters, Zekk, Peckhum, Raynar, the Shadow Academy, Vilas...
Ah, wait. Lemme rethink that. 
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Havac
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I'm very interested in the Lando novels, but we're shooting for a standalone next. I also suggest we pass over the YJK for now for that reason, and that when we do it, we do all the books in a row. I'd rather not skip around within series. TAB, COD, and DMSH are all good standalone options. However, we're currently riding heavily on post-ROTJ stuff, so I don't think it would hurt to throw something PT in there. DMSH has the advantage of the Coruscant Nights books coming out over the summer to tie discussion into, but by the same token the final book won't be out yet, so we won't have all the possible facts for discussion that we could. For that reason, I'd suggest COD.
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beccatoria
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RK_Striker_JK_5 posted:
lol, I'm the YJK expert? When did that happen?
Well, thanks. I gotta agree with Keralys. The final three would be able to 'stand alone', although there is a lot of establishing stuff in the first three-Qorl, the Neo-Nightsisters, Zekk, Peckhum, Raynar, the Shadow Academy, Vilas...
Ah, wait. Lemme rethink that.
I agree there's a lot of interesting stuff in the first three, but I guess if Lightsabers was suitable for doing on its own, we can stretch it to the final three? I'm inclined to agree with Ker on the fact that Anderson is very good at including backstory.
Also - Charlie - I think that Crimson Empire would totally count, and will keep it in mind for the future.
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I'm very interested in the Lando novels, but we're shooting for a standalone next. I also suggest we pass over the YJK for now for that reason, and that when we do it, we do all the books in a row. I'd rather not skip around within series. TAB, COD, and DMSH are all good standalone options. However, we're currently riding heavily on post-ROTJ stuff, so I don't think it would hurt to throw something PT in there. DMSH has the advantage of the Coruscant Nights books coming out over the summer to tie discussion into, but by the same token the final book won't be out yet, so we won't have all the possible facts for discussion that we could. For that reason, I'd suggest COD.
Thanks for your thoughts - I agree that doing a PT book definitely sounds like a good idea and I'll admit that personally I'm a little more interested in COD than DMSH currently, though that's not to crush dissenting opinion.
I also take your concern regarding the YJK books, but I also think that they're really too short to do one-a-month and also it'd take up like...half a year to get through the first lot. Perhaps we should at some point put aside two months and do three-a-month and get through the first arc? It might mean delaying it a few more months, but it would give us space to look at the entire run? Any opinions on this?
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Havac
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I wouldn't be opposed to doing, say, an arc a month, and maybe alternating months -- you'd have YJK, another book, more YJK, another book, etc. It's ultimately in your hands, though.
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RK_Striker_JK_5
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Becca, I was joking.  And being a loon, too. Although Havac's suggestion has merit. It would include my favorite SW character, Lusa, after all.  
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Lord_Hydronium
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Truce at Bakura is one of those I've been meaning to read at some point. This might be the excuse I need.
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I wouldn't mind going through Crispin's trilogy again.
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beccatoria
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Havac posted:
I wouldn't be opposed to doing, say, an arc a month, and maybe alternating months -- you'd have YJK, another book, more YJK, another book, etc. It's ultimately in your hands, though.
That's an interesting thought. Spreading them out might work better, though the page-count would be my concern. Looking at it briefly, about 3 YJK novels = 1 larger adult novel, so I wouldn't want to do more than that at a whack, and also I'm not sure I'd want to commit to working through the entire run alternating months because there are so many. But doing the first arc with Jedi Shadow and Jedi Sunrise interspersed by another book so as to provide some variety could be interesting.
And Striker - just trying to work out the best way to actually approach this since I honestly believe it'll be quite an informative exercise but logistically a bit tricky, so thank you for your thoughts!
I guess I'd say my largest concern is still interest. I'm pretty sure we can rustle up enough interest for a detour into YJKland, but would people other than myself, Striker and Hav be interested in participating in that discussion? Also availability - I know these books aren't terribly easy to find - would that be an issue for people? If so perhaps in order to allow others to at least participate a little, I could occasionally post some particularly pertinent passages in the thread to invite discussion? I believe under fair use regulations I can quote up to 5% of a book, though I would have to double check that as that might only be UK law. I mean, honestly I'm just brainstorming here.
Also, thanks for the TAB vote, Hydro - it has been noted!
And MistrX - I agree that Crispin's trilogy is also something to note for the future, perhaps when we go back to doing a series?
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Havac
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The HST was one of the works I had in mind when I came up with this idea. They'll definitely come up at some point.
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I'm a little worried that these retro reveiws/discussions could become a bit to early bantam dominated at this point. I do think its a great idea but would like to personally see a bit more variety. We've got I Jedi and the Black Fleet Crisis, thats all and good but I'm really hoping for some really, really retro stuff at some point.
Brian Daley does some really fun stuff in the Han Solo Adventures from 1979 and 1980. L. Neil Smith as well with the Lando Calrissian Adventures from 1983. Splinter of the Minds Eye ny Alan Dean Foster also comes to mind as another possible entry. Its really fun to revisit these "ancient" works just to see what they got right, what has changed, and just to overall look at how they fit into the overall continuity now. These are the books many of us had available to read before the EU revival in 1991 ever existed, and they are overlooked and undervalued in my opinion. These would definitly be a nice change from getting hung up in the 90's Bantam stuff month after month. Spreading out the older books by story would give them more life as well, do Han Solo at Stars End one month, go back to Bantam for a few months, then come back with Lando and the Mindharp of Sharu.......
On the Out of Print problems mentioned a couple posts back I have a few suggestions. First check your local libraries. Most will have online sites that allow to check if they carry certain novels. Buying isn't the only way, but second hand stores often have out of print Star Wars novels on their shelves. I see the Han and Lando adventures all the time at the local Value Village/Savers type stores as well as in second hand book shops. Take a glance through the phone book for the second hand shops in your area and give them a call to inquire what they have.
The Winnipeg Public Library still had Hard Cover originals of the Han Solo Adventures a couple years back, with each of the three books single from their first run in 79'-80.
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beccatoria
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Robimus - thanks for providing another vote of interest in doing the Lando Adventures! I do think that eventually we'll have to get to those.
I share your concern about simply plodding through the adult Bantam novels which is why I like the suggestion to branch out into some of the YA lit and the prequel novels too.
Also thanks for the reminder about libraries. I know that's how I read a good half of the NJO books when I was getting back into the EU after many years away. The interlibrary loan system is also a great boon.
Just to update everyone, I'm currently leaning towards putting Cloak of Deception into the line-up after BFC. There hasn't been any decisive "victor" in terms of requests but at least two people have expressed interest in this book. Any objections?
I also think that we should slot the first three YJK books into one of the autumn/winter months, interest permitting, and then we can use the success level of that thread to gauge whether it would be a good idea to go through the other arcs, and if so, when that should happen?
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apologies for my lack of contribution to the IJ discussion...exams are preventing me from getting on much.. it's a real shame as IJ is actually my favourite EU book...
having read the comment about not getting stuck in bantam era.. may i suggest shatterpoint as a possibility, as i just read it and i love it :P
or possibly something like rogue planet... (which was actually my second EU book (after IJ).. i found it in a store in america when i visited when i was about 11... i didnt expect at that point that my collection would extend to include most of the prequel novels, all the NJO and LOTF and about half-3/4s of the bantam era novels...)
the han solo bhooks by A. C. Crispin may be worth discussing, i really enjoyed them..
i do however feel that discussing anything NJO or LOTF will only lead to lots of negative comments and DR hating..
although personally i feel that NJO is fantastic
and LOTF isnt bad..
ok, i'll stop talking now haha
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beccatoria
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Okay all! Black Fleet Crisis: Before the Storm is now up!
I'm sure Hav will do the honours and edit it into the first post!
And Vereor - you don't need to worry about us discussing the NJO or LOTF any time soon - we're actively trying to discuss more overlooked novels.
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Wahoo! Black Fleet Crisis: Shield of Lies is up and ready to go!
In other news, since no one's objected, I figure we should make it official: September we'll be discussing Cloak of Deception by James Luceno!
Any thoughts on October? I'm still of half a mind to try and do some of the YJK books then, but I'm also still curious about support for such a notion. How about a targeted question:
How many of you would be interested in participating if we did a few of them in October?
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