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Master_Keralys posted:

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ETA: Arrest order for knights joining the war, eh? That's new information. We knew the Council opposed it, but that's a pretty significant and serious step. I get the feeling that Vrook was behind it. Man, I hate that guy. hl]

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[hl=black]If that were true, why didn't he simply arrest him in that preview? Atris was a pretty good ice queen in KOTOR 2, her or Lucien seem perfect for a measure like this. Kavar and Vandar as well as the other 2 in KOTOR 2 seemed a bit more laid back. Vrook takes the hard line true, but Vandar keeps him in check so I don't really see him pushing for an arrest order. That doesn't mean he'd outright oppose it of course.

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Good point regarding Atris. It'd be nice if we got to see more of her than we have so far. Her and Lucien do have somewhat similar approaches to preventing the return of the Sith... in addition to their shared dress sense for white robes.

Atris is actually an interesting character to explore since the Exile is female. The male Exile had quite a backstory with Atris, the female not so much. With the Exile out of the way as Atris's potential former love interest, could they resurrect the idea but with Lucien (or another) in place of the Exile?

There'd be one majorly screwed up love quadrangle at work there between Lucien, Atris, Q'Anilia and Kreia if Lucien did turn out to be Sion.

Manisphere posted:

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Confirmed by Midtown Comics for the 23rd.

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Master_Keralys posted:

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Prediction: we're going to see the Jedi Order figuring out exactly what's going on regarding the Covenant in this issue, and then in Vindication everything unravels/comes to a head, with all the info on the table (except Haazen, of course, which no one will know by the end of Turnabout).

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Grey1 posted:

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[quote=EmperorPL]Also, I suppose that with Lucien still mourning for his father, the story might show Haazen to have been quite complicit in the events surrounding the death (but not in this issue, obviously).

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burrie posted:

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So...

Revan got his name, because that's basically the name of his faction. Malak got his, because it was a cool undercover name?

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I'm going to guess (read: dearly hope ) there is actually more to it than that. I figure we'll probably get someone go "Why Malak?" and he'll say something about how "Because it means [blah]" or "Its what I used to be called on [Blah]".

It seems to be rather like Dessel/Bane. Its probably a nickname he was given that has some veiled meaning. I seem to recall "malak" means "king" in Hebrew I think, so maybe he'll make a reference to how "the kids back home used to call me king" or something, like how Bane became Bane because people called him it as an insult.

That said, we may not get an explanation right away. We're only now getting an explanation for why his last name is so long. The mention its like an old fashioned "William of Scotland" sort of name makes me curious as to how exactly it translates though. Is it several place names? Squin, Squar, Gesimus? Or are parts like "Mc" or "Van" and so possibly making it something like "Alek of Squinquar ge Simus" with the "ge" something similar to "near"?

Or maybe I'm just too much of a conspiracy theorist with all the Sith mentions, what with Squinquargesimus and Adasca.

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Master_Keralys posted:

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Prediction: we're going to see the Jedi Order figuring out exactly what's going on regarding the Covenant in this issue, and then in Vindication everything unravels/comes to a head, with all the info on the table (except Haazen, of course, which no one will know by the end of Turnabout).

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I'm not so sure, actually. JJM has stated that it could be Lucien who's vindicated, and what I find interesting is that despite Vandar and Vrook's opposition to Lucien, the Council's known actions during the war largely mimic the agenda of the Covenant -- ignore the Mandos, concentrate on visions of looming darkness, Sith Sith Sith Sith Sith watch for Sith. While, given the Evil Haazen Cover, it would seem that the Covenant is exposed to some extent, it's interesting that the Council's future actions will largely reflect the Covenant's priorities. The opposition doesn't seem to come from anything other than "I don't like the cut of his jib." It'll be interesting to see to what extent that plays out.

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Though why, oh why, is Malak still so short? He's supposed to be GINORMOUS.

Going by his graphic in the game, even his officially listed height of 2.02 metres seems too small. He's built on the Wookiee skeleton!

Zorrixor posted:

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I'm going to guess (read: dearly hope ) there is actually more to it than that. I figure we'll probably get someone go "Why Malak?" and he'll say something about how "Because it means [blah]" or "Its what I used to be called on [Blah]".

It seems to be rather like Dessel/Bane. Its probably a nickname he was given that has some veiled meaning. I seem to recall "malak" means "king" in Hebrew I think, so maybe he'll make a reference to how "the kids back home used to call me king" or something, like how Bane became Bane because people called him it as an insult.

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"Zayne Carrick thought you might keep me from reaching you on his behalf"

Malak = Arabic Word for Angel

Angel = Messenger.

In Hebrew & Arabic the primary term for "angel" is "malakh", "malaika", or "malak" derived from the Semitic consonantal root (blah blah blah) meaning "to send".

And we've seen him perform the same function for Revan too, with the Adasca stuff. It's "Malik" that means king - though that's not to say "Malak" can't mean both king AND angel/messenger in Star Wars.

But, yeah, I can see this "undercover Alek" being something of a liasion between the Revanchist and those who would follow him, which strikes me as a good explanation for the adoption of the "Malak" name specifically.

Zorrixor posted:

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That said, we may not get an explanation right away. We're only now getting an explanation for why his last name is so long. The mention its like an old fashioned "William of Scotland" sort of name makes me curious as to how exactly it translates though. Is it several place names? Squin, Squar, Gesimus? Or are parts like "Mc" or "Van" and so possibly making it something like "Alek of Squinquar ge Simus" with the "ge" something similar to "near"?

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What, so he's *nearly* like Simus, except instead of his head being lopped off it was only his jaw?

Maybe (as you seem to be suggesting) it's like the selonian (sp?) names from Mass Effect? Given name, Town Name, Country Name, Planet Name, Surname. Or whatever it was.

Ulicus posted:

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Though why, oh why, is Malak still so short? He's supposed to be GINORMOUS.

Going by his graphic in the game, even his officially listed height of 2.02 metres seems too small. He's built on the Wookiee skeleton!

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Rogue_Follower posted:

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Ulicus posted:

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Though why, oh why, is Malak still so short? He's supposed to be GINORMOUS.

Going by his graphic in the game, even his officially listed height of 2.02 metres seems too small. He's built on the Wookiee skeleton!

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Gameplay mechanic?

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