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AdmiralNick22
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6/28 8:47am
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RE: KOTOR #31--Turnabout
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MercenaryAce posted:
I have the same feeling about the computer thing-it is going to cost them big. Makes me wonder about the Admiral though...he is supposed to be some kind of military genius that is half the reason Malak was winning the Jedi Civil War, but he hasn't won a single battle yet. How is it he has been promoted instead of sacked?
*shrug*
Anyway, cool to see Onsai in a fighter, I hope we get to see his flying skills in action.
All in all, looking forward to it.
Maybe Admiral Karath will figure out a way to "save the day" for the Republic fleet by overiding the computer. That ought to earn him the attention of the Admiral of the Fleet and the rest of the brass on Coruscant.
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EmperorPL
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I hope there'll be another republic vessels there
(like these: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Small_republic_capital_ship or these
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Republic_Hammerhead_Plus-wing_starfighter)
Question to JJM:
Are those vessels have a specific name? If so, can you give it to us? Also can you tell us or just hint what size are those and how armed?
I would be very grateful if you provide us with those infos 
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MercenaryAce
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6/28 11:36am
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AdmiralNick22 posted:
MercenaryAce posted:
I have the same feeling about the computer thing-it is going to cost them big. Makes me wonder about the Admiral though...he is supposed to be some kind of military genius that is half the reason Malak was winning the Jedi Civil War, but he hasn't won a single battle yet. How is it he has been promoted instead of sacked?
*shrug*
Anyway, cool to see Onsai in a fighter, I hope we get to see his flying skills in action.
All in all, looking forward to it.
Maybe Admiral Karath will figure out a way to "save the day" for the Republic fleet by overiding the computer. That ought to earn him the attention of the Admiral of the Fleet and the rest of the brass on Coruscant.
--Adm. Nick
Good thoughts. Now that I think about it, the Mandolorians can't win this battle...so they have to be defeated.
I have a feeling Zayne will somehow be important, but Karath will take the credit.
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Zorrixor
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6/28 2:10pm
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MercenaryAce posted:
I have the same feeling about the computer thing-it is going to cost them big.
Isn't "Demagol" meant to be on Coruscant? 
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MercenaryAce
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Zorrixor posted:
MercenaryAce posted:
I have the same feeling about the computer thing-it is going to cost them big.
Isn't "Demagol" meant to be on Coruscant?
Well, somewhere in the Republic...if they are both there...it seems like many threads may be all tied up this arc...
But not all of them...we still don't who is after Jareal and why...
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Zorrixor
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MercenaryAce posted:
Zorrixor posted:
MercenaryAce posted:
I have the same feeling about the computer thing-it is going to cost them big.
Isn't "Demagol" meant to be on Coruscant?
Well, somewhere in the Republic...if they are both there...it seems like many threads may be all tied up this arc...
But not all of them...we still don't who is after Jareal and why...
Well, I think he was meant to be getting taken back to Coruscant, at least if the Wookiee is right. Unless Zayne is exonerated it will be as good a time as any for Demagol to factor into things again.
Mentioning Jarael, this quote had my spidey senses tingling:
“One of those interested in Jarael is Rohlan, a Mandalorian deserter who's been traveling with Zayne and company since escaping his army during an invasion,” Miller continued. “He's suspicious about the origins of the Mandalorian War, but lately he's seemed more interested in Jarael than in finding answers.”
There is just something very ominous about that. Usually related events factor into each other, all roads lead to Rome and all that, so if Rohlan is interested in the origins of the Mandalorian War, chances are though he doesn't realise it his interest in Jarael will probably, directly or not, lead him to the answers he seeks.
I'm getting increasingly suspicious with how similar Muur and Jarael are in appearance. The fact we know a Sith is meant to have been involved in the origins of the war... warning bells are starting to ring. I'm not saying Jarael is a Sith, heck no... although, saying that, that would be like the biggest plot twist ever... but, I could so easily see a situation develop where the "True Sith" aren't linked to the Sith Empire proper the way speculation about them being a surviving group of Massassi has thought but to the Muur splinter faction who may in turn be linked to Arkania's supposed links to the ancient Sith.
The "True Arkanians" related to Karness Muur who may have considered himself a "True" Sith compared to Ragnos et al who he may have seen as beneath him?
Yeah... all rampant speculation... but that line from JJM just felt... loaded.
EDIT: Question... have we ever had a close up of Haazen's ears or have they always been covered by all that hair?
I seem to recall he was eager to have Lucien and the others return Jarael to Coruscant. 
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TuskenTommy
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Nice knee pads 
--The council knows the covenant is shady, so why are they doubting this kid ?
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The_Four_Dot_Elipsis
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6/29 3:58am
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Nobody145 posted:
a one-issue arc,
Ah, very good. You sir, have made my day.
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Rogue_Follower
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6/29 7:25am
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Zorrixor posted:
“One of those interested in Jarael is Rohlan, a Mandalorian deserter who's been traveling with Zayne and company since escaping his army during an invasion,” Miller continued. “He's suspicious about the origins of the Mandalorian War, but lately he's seemed more interested in Jarael than in finding answers.”
There is just something very ominous about that. Usually related events factor into each other, all roads lead to Rome and all that, so if Rohlan is interested in the origins of the Mandalorian War, chances are though he doesn't realise it his interest in Jarael will probably, directly or not, lead him to the answers he seeks.
Rohlan was suspicious about the origins of the Mandalorian War... before Flashpoint. 
Demagol wasn't really that interested in the Mandie War, so it makes that "Rohlan" is paying more attention to Jarael.
Though, this does remind me that "Demagol" is probably somewhere on Coruscant, in a coma. I wonder if the Rohlan-Demagol situation will come into the spotlight in the next few arcs...
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6/29 10:02am
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Rogue_Follower posted:
Zorrixor posted:
“One of those interested in Jarael is Rohlan, a Mandalorian deserter who's been traveling with Zayne and company since escaping his army during an invasion,” Miller continued. “He's suspicious about the origins of the Mandalorian War, but lately he's seemed more interested in Jarael than in finding answers.”
There is just something very ominous about that. Usually related events factor into each other, all roads lead to Rome and all that, so if Rohlan is interested in the origins of the Mandalorian War, chances are though he doesn't realise it his interest in Jarael will probably, directly or not, lead him to the answers he seeks.
Rohlan was suspicious about the origins of the Mandalorian War... before Flashpoint.
Demagol wasn't really that interested in the Mandie War, so it makes that "Rohlan" is paying more attention to Jarael.
Though, this does remind me that "Demagol" is probably somewhere on Coruscant, in a coma. I wonder if the Rohlan-Demagol situation will come into the spotlight in the next few arcs...
If it doesn't, it only proves that JJM is a cruel, cruel god. 
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Bly posted:
If it doesn't, it only proves that JJM is a cruel, cruel god.
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The Vanjervalis chain? Reminds me on the Van der Waals forces.
And it looks pretty awesome.
And Xamar sort of resembles Cthulhu.
Glad about Jarael still being a part of the team and not listening to Rohlan/Demagol. And I really do hopw to find ut more about whoever is hidding beneath that helmet.
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I'm still mildly annoyed by the space-only-has-two-dimensions tactics. What, no one can come in from the poles and go completely around the "blockade"?
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EmperorPL
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Havac posted:
I'm still mildly annoyed by the space-only-has-two-dimensions tactics. What, no one can come in from the poles and go completely around the "blockade"?
Maybe there isn't anything important in the poles, or there are some military bases which can defend themself, the fleet is needed to defend most weak points. So i think :P
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Nobody145
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Maybe that's the area where all ships approach Coruscant, or at least ships coming from Odryn? Unless the Jedi Covenant (in secret) told Karath the general area where to deploy his ships to intercept Zayne. And now that I think about it, now that we know that the Swiftsure's computer is controlling all the ships, and I assume that means weapons too, it probably wouldn't be too much of a stretch to see the computer malfunctioning somehow and some of the Hammerheads would attack the Swiftsure instead, which would fulfill the Rogue Moon prophecy of having Republic ships firing on each other. The original popular theory was that the Republic ships firing on each other came from during the Jedi Civil War, when Revan stole a third of the Republic forces, but having a computer control everything almost never ends up well. Although that still leaves the question of how Karath survives, but its pssible friendly fire could just take out the Jedi on board, but leave the rest of the crew mostly fin.
And yeah, I'm hoping that the Demagol-Rohlan thing will be followed up on eventually. Its probable that its not Rohlan wearing Rohlan's armor at this point, what with some of the discrepencies we've picked up since Flashpoint (like Alek saying "Demagol" is "conveniently" so drugged up they can't question him), but with the Vindication plot coming up, the Mandalorian plot won't take priority for at least a few more issues, not to mention the continuing mystery of Jarael's background.
And did the KotOR games ever explain why the Mandalorian Wars started? I think by the end of KotOR, it sounded like there was some huge True Sith threat out there, which was partially the source of the recent troubels, and was a convenient way to get the main characters of both games, Revan and the Exile, to go off into the Unknown Regions, leaving room for new characters.
How powerful is the Moomo Williwaw anyway? Its called a gunship, and considering that the Moomos own it, its probably heavily armed for its size, and I think the Handbook mentioned it was ridiculously overarmed for its size, so probably but throwing a fleet of Hammerheads and an Inexpugnable-class ship at it seem like overkill. Then again, that moron Karath has a grudge against Zayne and Lucien pulled some strings, so maybe that's why there's such a huge fleet to greet Zayne. And did Karath get credit for anything good that happened at Omonoth? If Zayne ever manages to save the Republic, I expect either Lucien or Karath would get the credit for it.
And while Vandar and Vrook might be suspicious of Lucien Draay and his associates, it sounds like most of the rest of the Council was bribed in the form of the Draay Trust donating to their favorite charities and such. And also, Vandar's probably the only one who knows Zayne personally, and everybody else is just taking the word of a Jedi Master over some random Padawan with a reputation for clumsiness and incompetence. Which has been one of Zayne's major problems so far, getting anyone to believe him, but hopefully by now he's accumulated enough evidence to make a decent stand, if he can get into open court with the Council, since part of Zayne's dilemma is that the Covenant's been trying to kill him out of the public sight to avoid leaving more witnesses.
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