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Strika23
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7/23 4:11pm
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Very good issue. I was disappointed that we didnt get to see the Jedi on the cover to be honest. last issue was misleading when it said "Next issue you will meet a batch of fresh new jedi". I hope they end up using them. A male togruta and a female elomin seemed like really cool choices for jedi. besides, we need some new jedi in the series once things cool down.
- The flashback scenes with Syn's father and Rav were good. They were on Roon- that girl looked awfully alot like Jarael. Obviously not her, but she shares the same pointed ears and white skin. Offshoot arkanians were not supposed to have pointed ears, which is the main reason why adasca and the others were so fascinated by Jarael. An artistic mistake or hints that Jarael is of another race and not arkanian? Anyways, interesting backstory and Im glad to see Rasi Tuum did survive!
-I was disapointed with Sia's threats to Azlyn. It seemed out of character of her, but she always striked me as being a snob.
-The council not going into war did not surprise me in the least, jedi are good for nothing but talk in their council chambers. They should have learned their lesson in the clone wars.
-I'm glad to see that Rawk is deciding to go see his kits and Droo again- though part of me really wished he had joined Cade. Im glad to see Shado is giong along with Cade as well, at least there is one jedi in the crew. I really wanted Sia to join them as well, but 3 IK's are more than enough.
Can't wait for the next issue and Vector!! 
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Manisphere
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7/23 4:22pm
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sabarte posted:
Eh, Sia's future Empress lady. I don't see the issue. In fact, I entirely approve of Sia playing hardball on this issue.
As do I, actually.
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Charlemagne19
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7/23 4:34pm
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Strika posted:
-The council not going into war did not surprise me in the least, jedi are good for nothing but talk in their council chambers. They should have learned their lesson in the clone wars.
....This is the OPPOSITE of their policy during the Clone Wars.
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RebelGrrl
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7/23 4:53pm
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Nagai have white skin and pointed ears. It would be more likely for the girl to have been Nagai than an Arkanian offshoot, since only one Arkanian offshoot was known to have pointed ears 4000 years ago, but all Nagai have pointed ears.
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sabarte
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Nobody ever said the Arkanians -stopped- messing with themselves, IIRC.
I mean, human being give themselves elf-ears (surgically!) today, and I guarantee that if you could easily and cheaply make kids with genetic elf ears, someone on Earth would do it.
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7/23 5:15pm
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These Clone Wars council member Jedi seriously need to get with the times, Skywalker's Jedi Order needs to be the ones leading the fight here, not Jedi from another Order a long time ago that got owned doing what they're doing now. Debating and talking and ultimately doing nothing.
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will cade be exiled if he kills krayt?
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Charlemagne19
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snelson posted:
will cade be exiled if he kills krayt?
Which would be different from his life, how?
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JaySkywalker01
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Charlemagne19 posted:
snelson posted:
will cade be exiled if he kills krayt?
Which would be different from his life, how?
Can't be exiled from something you're not a part of....
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Strika23
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I mean they should have learned their lesson in the clone wars and get with the times, not judging current times from wars in the past (clone wars). They should have learned from the clone wars to go to war and fight, for it is the right thing to do rather than stand back and watch.
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sabarte
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7/23 6:30pm
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The case for the Jedi POV is much better made here than in the previous issue.
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7/23 6:36pm
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Another great issue, as always. It ended a lot like the Ossus Ghost arc did, setting up a lot more plot threads, but hopefully they'll all pay off eventually.
I was pleasantly surprised with the Rasi Tuum and Jariah confrontation. I thought it might turn out to be a "wasn't me" thing, especially with how there are references to other Rasi Tuums, and I liked that while the Vong bugs kinda caught the Jedi by surprise (guess Jedi still have a hard time with Force-neutral Vong bugs, but that can't be helped), he still basically easily knocked out Jariah and held him back. I was afraid Jariah might try to blow up the whole temple or something drastic like that. And in the flashback, Rasi Tuum does look ferocious, but guess for a seven-year old that would leave some mental scars too. And I liked how the Jedi explained his side, and its not like Jariah can really deny the kind of person Rav is, and given the kind of person Rav is, if Jariah's father hung out with Rav often, he probably wasn't that nice either. Jariah just recently got a taste of how backstabbing Rav is when Rav turned them into the Imps, not to mention that poor Arkanian girl. Cute girl, but she looks like a pure Arkanian, unlike Jarael, since she has no pupils, and I don't think she has Jarael's odd pointed ears. Makes me wish they could put Ms. Dureensma on the KotOR comic someday. And guess that's the debt Rav referred to when they pulled Cade in from space over Ossus, though Rav's probably happy to get rid of that public debt over such a minor thing. I wonder how this will affect Jariah's hatred of the Jedi. For the most part, he's held it in check after finding out about Cade, and he's always been intelligent enough to at least hate the Sith more than the Jedi, I just hate it when some characters are moronic enough to side with the Sith just because they have a grudge against a Jedi (since Sith have such a nice record of not backstabbing people  ). Now, either he has to deal with the fact that his father wasn't that nice, so the Jedi killing him wasn't such a crime, or he stays in denial. Jariah is still following Cade at least.
Azlyn Rae's arc seems like it'll be very interesting, especially with that upcoming Vector cover of her and Cade with lightsabers. Officially, she swore a lifelong oath to the Imperial Knights, but... well, now she has other options. If she defected back to the Jedi, wonder how much she might be worth compared to the potential Jedi-Fel alliance in the works. Nice "subtle" reminder by Marasiah about IK oaths, and the ominous fate of the other IK who... walked away. Wonder if that other IK will ever be named or will show up (flashback or otherwise. Though Azlyn seems a lot more meek now, with how Sia's coming down hard on her (Sia seems a lot less empathic these days, but she is Roan Fel's daughter after all) and now Azlyn's part of the IK support for the assassination squad.
Wow, didn't think Shado wouuld actually draw his lightsaber on Cade. And assuming I'm interpreting the scene right, sounds like Shado was about to try and beat the truth out of Cade, whether Cade even acknowledged that truth or not. Cade's not exactly a nice person, but he hasn't threatened anyone at the Temple, though he still seems like a ticking bomb. Not to mention that one panel of yellow Sith eyes. Cade seems to have his anger under control for now, at least he won't just randomly kill people, and he didn't even kill Rav when he had the chance, but of course, this was a relatively easy fight for Cade. When Azlyn was struck by that Imp officer a few issues ago, Cade looked a lot more unstable, like he was ready to start killing people over that minor offense. Here, it was just Shado. And nice to see Sazen is still trying to keep a eye on Cade, but Cade's his own person now, and there's only so much Sazen can do. Cade might have a point about using darkside techniques as just tools, but I'm thinking Sazen is more accurate with how he's afraid of Cade's disregard for how far he'll go or fall. Cade didn't fall when Krayt was taunting, but he could easily become a bigger threat than Krayt.
I thought it was odd that Wolf Sazen, Shado or not even Bantha were at the final Council meeting, but guess that meeting was mainly for the Jedi to say they won't join Cade's hit squad. I agree with the Jedi actually, that just killing Krayt won't fix things, and could easily make things worse. Especially with how Krayt is already dying on his own. And despite Krayt's new One Sith rule, having that many Sith out and about won't last forever. Killing Palpatine was a major victory, but there were only two official Sith back then (though there were seemingly dozens of darksiders). Now, Maladi and Nihl seemed somewhat familiar with the old ways (having reread the third Legacy TPB recently), and who knows how many other Sith might jump at a chance for control. Officially, Krayt is definitely the boss, but without Krayt.... I also liked Traa'Saa's reference to previous Jedi assasination attempts, and how it is always a dangerous path. Not a criticism, but simply a reason why the Jedi won't risk it, not when their own position is still so weakened. I also thought it was great that when Cade tries the "millions are dying" excuse, K'kruhk throws it back that Cade's in it more for himself, for revenge, and to get rid of the Sith bounty on his head, than for "innocents".
And yeah, I found it odd how Artoo just opened the doors for the IK fighters. Nice to see Bantha isn't dead yet, though I hope nothing bad happens when he reaches Kiffu. At least he and Cade seemed to part on decent terms, since Bantha's mainly watching out for his own family. And very interesting mix of people Cade's gathered for his "Krayt kill krew" (sorry, couldn't resist). We've got Cade, who's toeing the light/dark line very closely, Jariah, Deliah, Artoo, several Imperial Knights (and Draco still doesn't like Cade much), including Azlyn (Deliah probably isn't happy about having the old girlfriend still coming along for the ride, though Cade probably hasn't quite forgiven her for leading the IKs to the Hidden Temple yet), and Shado Vao there to kill Cade in case he goes dark. Though I'm not sure if Shado would be strong enough too, considering how their earlier fight went....
Cade's plan sounds simple, and it might work, but of course, how the galaxy might change if Krayt dies is anyone's guess. I'm sad to see Sia, Wolf and Bantha staying at the Hidden Temple, but oh well, not that surprised, I didn't expect them to let Sia go on such a dangerous mission. And I hope we get to see that big GA-Jedi-Felpire alliance conference someday. I just hope the Hidden Temple stays Hidden for a while, Jedi sanctuaries seem to have a bad habit of being found out and blasted from orbit.
Not sure if I'll care about the Wyyrlock issue next month, but at least the Vector arc sounds like it'll be very interesting with how it'll tie into the "kill Krayt" attempt. Just having that many people on the Mynock will probably be fun to watch. Just how big is that ship anyway? It has room for the IK Predators (how are those Predators going to be stored anyway? I thought Predators required special racks or something?), what looks like a small fighter, and that's... seven people, I think? Well, if they don't kill each other first. Well, at least its better than no help, as Cade said.
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AdmiralNick22
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7/23 6:42pm
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sabarte posted:
The case for the Jedi POV is much better made here than in the previous issue.
Agreed. The Council basically just opposes outright assassination. I like Tr'a Saa's comments. She basically agrees that the Jedi should "Hurt the enemy, yes. Work to defeat them and preserve innocent lives, yes." Not only that, but K'kruhk mentions that Cade's motives are not pure. He doesn't want to kill Krayt to save the galaxy. Instead, he wants to kill Krayt to get revenge.
Anyways, it is good to see that the Jedi are open to working against the Sith. Hopefully talks with Fel's forces go well. I can only assume (and hope) that these talks also include working with Gar Stazi and the Alliance Remnant forces.
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7/23 9:13pm
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Strika posted:
-I was disapointed with Sia's threats to Azlyn. It seemed out of character of her, but she always striked me as being a snob.
I quite disagree. In fact, it neatly compliments her rebelliousness about her lovelife. She's idealistic when it comes to her personal situation, but she toes the Imperial party line when it comes to other matters. That's perfect, and I thought she had great characterization in this issue.
Her phrasing of the threat/warning was just perfect. The insinuation was clear enough, but not so blunt as to be crass.
She was wonderful. Not that death threats are wonderful, mind you, but that she was in perfect keeping with the dignity and stature that her office provides. Desertion is punishable by death, period. It's nice that the Second Empire actually expresses legitimate martial behavior. As repugnant as it may seem to us from the comfort of our computers, her behavior would not even be considered abnormal or immoral in this world.
Zorrixor posted:
I actually find the idea of the IKs hunting down traitors quite intriguing. It makes them majorly different to the Jedi, not just "Imperial Jedi ZOMG!". It also further brings into question the Fel Empire's morality, something which, little by little, is being eroded.
What moral erosion? We've always known the Imperial Family was ruthless, but in every single case we've seen them act perfectly according to the rules of war. HIM the Emperor executed enemy spies surrendering under false pretenses, and HIH the Princess reminded Rae that desertion was a capital crime. These things should not cause us to bat a single eyelid.
The Fel House is not the group that is committing genocide, and it is not the group that is quite content to let it happen. The Sith and Jedi are the truly barbarous groups in this story; the Imperial Family has conducted itself with honor and grace at all times.
EDIT: I did not notice this at first, but it looks like Draco has now used the correct address--"Her Imperial Highness, Princess Marasiah." I highly approve. That was probably my favorite part of the issue aside from Sia herself. It may be a coincidence or based off of my comment about the mis-use of 'majesty' in the last issue, but I'm quite pleased either way. This is why Legacy's the only comic I follow straight through. Thank you, Jan and John.
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Trip
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7/23 11:35pm
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Heh, Artoo likes the Solo/Fels better than the Skywalkers.
Also: Sia's subtly overt threat was great, and I'm still on the Council's side in this Kill Krayt business. It's a poor idea, but at least now I know why Sia was endorsing it-- she wants Dumb and Dumber out of her hair for a little while.  Maybe she's hoping they'll get offed during the mission or something.
Overall, good issue, but a bit slow. Can't wait for next month's, though. Wyyrlok!
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