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Ulicus
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5/5 3:00pm
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RE: Literature Forum Code of Conduct Discussion
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*Uli hides the dice*
We were, uh, roleplaying.
Yeah. Roleplaying.
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leia7
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5/5 3:24pm
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dp4m posted:
I am shocked... SHOCKED... to find gambling in this establishment!
Your winnings sir!
dp4m, that was meant as humor, not a personal statement about you... 
I'd like to say that while we had that going on, we also had some self-policing, some people asking others respectfully to break off "unwinnable" debates, and some well-behaved people taking conversations to PM.  
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dp4m
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The only offense I would take is the implication I play dice instead of poker! 
But seriously, even with my retirement thread AND this thread pointing out the same issues... people still engage in them. Do others really still feel that there isn't some sort of problem with the posting on the forum?
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patchworkz7
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Mods, a quick question; is there anyway to add an "ignore user" option on these boards?
I ask because most of the forum software I've used in the past as a mod (Beehive, Delphi, a few others) have had this option so the nice things was just being able to tell people to "ignore them if you don't want to discuss it" and the post just wouldn't show up. It saved me any number of headaches on the forums I modded.
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RebelGrrl
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5/9 12:34pm
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patchworkz7 posted:
Mods, a quick question; is there anyway to add an "ignore user" option on these boards?
I ask because most of the forum software I've used in the past as a mod (Beehive, Delphi, a few others) have had this option so the nice things was just being able to tell people to "ignore them if you don't want to discuss it" and the post just wouldn't show up. It saved me any number of headaches on the forums I modded.
EXCELLENT idea and suggestion. It's easier to not feed the trolls when one doesn't see them, for example.
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leia7
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How does that work? Is it like "closing an eye" on AIM?
It sounds great!
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dp4m
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It's a technical limitation of the IGN Boards software.
Nothing we can do.
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Lord_Vivec
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5/17 4:59pm
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Something I'd like to bring up in this thread: Review Threads
When giving reviews from 1 to 10, 10 means excellent, but does being bad automatically make it a 1? Or even a 3?
I've seen plenty of people give their reviews for a book and give it a 1 or a 3 or something. A completely unreasonable score. To get a 3, a book has to be so unbearably bad that it lowered your IQ or something. Yet there are those who had out 3s like fliers.
I think that there needs to be some self control. Or the very least, some restraint.
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Rogue_Follower
Title: Manager: Literature
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Some people do give exaggerated reviews and, yes, it is silly. But we aren't going to start modding review scores. We can ask people to be fair, but if someone thinks a book deserves a 1, they can put that down if they wish.
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Dingo
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Just a question, but is anything actually going to come out of this? This thread was started a month ago, and while posting was active for the first 10 days, nothing seems to have happened since then. Add to it that this discussion spawned out of one that had already been ongoing for a while, and one would have thought that something in writing would have appeared at the top of the forum before Invincible was released.
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Rogue_Follower
Title: Manager: Literature
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5/17 9:36pm
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I forget if we stated the timeframe explicitly, but I believe we were intending on leaving the code up for comment for about a month. Then, we're going to post the revised version in a remodeled Index/Rules/Code sticky thread.
It's almost been a month, so we'll probably be updating the Index sticky in the next week or so.
Here's a revised version of Code:
- Treat your fellow posters with respect.
- Treat VIPs, even those who are not users on this site, with respect.
- Do not state opinions, assumptions, personal canon, or rumors as fact. Identify them for what they are.
- Be prepared to back up your points with evidence and facts. Likewise, be prepared to explain the reasoning for your criticism.
- Read a book or comic before you review it. Withhold final judgement of a work until you have read it.
- Do not sidetrack threads with personal confrontations, conversations, or arguments.
- Your posts should contribute to a discussion, not detract from it.
I think that we agreed with the people here who thought "unnecessary" was too vague, so we took that out. Really, arguments and conversations that take a thread off topic and get in the way of other discussions are what we want to cut down on, so we specified "sidetracking" as what not to do.
We may have to work more on the wording and details, but I think this is close to final.
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Jedi Ben
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5/18 5:50am
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Lord_Vivec posted:
Something I'd like to bring up in this thread: Review Threads
When giving reviews from 1 to 10, 10 means excellent, but does being bad automatically make it a 1? Or even a 3?
I've seen plenty of people give their reviews for a book and give it a 1 or a 3 or something. A completely unreasonable score. To get a 3, a book has to be so unbearably bad that it lowered your IQ or something. Yet there are those who had out 3s like fliers.
I think that there needs to be some self control. Or the very least, some restraint.
Why should there be? People pay their money, read the book if they're not happy about it they're going to mark it low. Unless you're convinced people really do decide in large numbers not to buy a book on the basis of a review thread in Lit - and I don't think it's so - it isn't a problem.
Out of curiosity though: Are you also against people giving 9.9 and 10s?
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beccatoria
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For the record, I'm much happier with "sidetracked". It's clearer, fits with standing forum rules of remaining "on-topic" and is generally something I feel I have a stronger grip on as a concept. Plus it's not so...judgemental? "Unnecessary" implies it was an objectively pointless thing to say, while "sidetracked" is a little more neutral since it's simply pointing out that it's not pertinent to this thread. Of course, the difference in interpretation is probably subjective, but just wanted to say, if we're going to have a code of conduct, I'm much happier with this wording.
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I think the first two could be combined into one, personally, but apart from that it looks good to me.
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Lord_Vivec
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Jedi Ben posted:
Out of curiosity though: Are you also against people giving 9.9 and 10s?
No, because 10 means the book is excellent. 1 doesn't mean the book is bad. It means it's downright horrible. What I'm saying is that there are people who hand out 1s to nearly every book when all those book aren't downright horrible.
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