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Manisphere Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 10/19/08 2:55pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: Indigo45879 posted: Along with kreia trying to destroy the force. would that not kill every living thing? More to the point, how do you kill the Force without first killing every living thing? How do you kill the Force even after you kill every living thing? -----signature----- "Head of State, a Sith is just a Jedi who's gone off his meds."-Natasi Daala
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/19/08 2:59pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Manisphere posted: Arawn_Fenn posted: Indigo45879 posted: Along with kreia trying to destroy the force. would that not kill every living thing? More to the point, how do you kill the Force without first killing every living thing? How do you kill the Force even after you kill every living thing? How do you kill every living thing without killing yourself? -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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Manisphere Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 10/19/08 3:05pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: Manisphere posted: Arawn_Fenn posted: [quote=Indigo45879]Along with kreia trying to destroy the force. would that not kill every living thing? More to the point, how do you kill the Force without first killing every living thing? How do you kill the Force even after you kill every living thing? How do you kill every living thing without killing yourself? [/quote] You win. -----signature----- "Head of State, a Sith is just a Jedi who's gone off his meds."-Natasi Daala
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DarthUr Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 10/19/08 5:15pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: Indigo45879 posted: Along with kreia trying to destroy the force. would that not kill every living thing? More to the point, how do you kill the Force without first killing every living thing? Well, the Exile living without the Force is supposedly proof that it'd be possible for life to continue once the Force was destroyed (or at least disrupted). However, since the Exile's Force-less state seems to be a metaphor for PTSD and clinical depression, Kreia is basically saying she wants to give every living thing in the universe PTSD so they won't feel anything anymore, and thus be Nietzschena Ubermenschen. When Tyler Durden tortures Jack and all the other Space Monkeys in Fight Club with his caustic kiss so they become amoral heartless sociopathic anarchists? That's what Kreia wants to do to the whole universe. I mean, wow.
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/19/08 9:13pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	>>>Well, the Exile living without the Force is supposedly proof that it'd be possible for life to continue once the Force was destroyed (or at least disrupted). But that life would continue to generate the Force. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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DarthUr Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 10/19/08 10:58pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: >>>Well, the Exile living without the Force is supposedly proof that it'd be possible for life to continue once the Force was destroyed (or at least disrupted). But that life would continue to generate the Force. Sure. Kreia wasn't exactly talking about "destroying the Force" so much as severing people's ability to feel the Force. Killing the Living Force, if you will, even though the Unifying Force by nature would of necessity remain. Put it this way -- the monstrous events on Yuuzhan'tar that led to the Yuuzhan Vong becoming the way they did? Kreia wanted to intentionally duplicate them to make the GFFA the same as the Vong Galaxy. In other words, she would be personally responsible for the atrocities of millions of races that all developed the Yuuzhan Vong's sociopathic madness at once. Because she thinks that would be better. Again, wow. (And yes, if I wanted to write a race that was cut off from the Force and thus driven to a kind of numb madness, they would be like the Vong but less cheesy. The Vong are a good example of a great concept but bad execution.)
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Tyber_Zahn Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 10/20/08 5:00am Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	If we're talking about individual evil there's an astrocrat in the Dark Times comics who buys non-human sentient slave children (aka younglings) and has them killed and prepared by his buttler droid for his dinner, so that is probably up there in the list of evil acts. The destruction of Alderaan would be lower on the list imo as it was politcally motivated and it was in the context of a war, same as how the US decided to drop nuclear bombs on Japan nea the end of WW2. Not that it wasn't an act of evil.
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AdmirableAckbar Registered: Jan '08	Date Posted: 10/20/08 9:46am Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	The Assassination of His Imperial Majesty Trioculus. That was really heartless.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 10/20/08 10:12am Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Tyber_Zahn posted: If we're talking about individual evil there's an astrocrat in the Dark Times comics who buys non-human sentient slave children (aka younglings) and has them killed and prepared by his buttler droid for his dinner, so that is probably up there in the list of evil acts. The destruction of Alderaan would be lower on the list imo as it was politcally motivated and it was in the context of a war, same as how the US decided to drop nuclear bombs on Japan nea the end of WW2. Not that it wasn't an act of evil. I'm trying to get a handle on where fans started assuming Alderaan was a military target. Even Tarkin doesn't consider it a threat. It's a Imperial planet that has no weapons.
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Scarran Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 10/20/08 10:19am Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars? - Date Edited: 10/20/08 10:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: Scarran
	Palpatine turning billions of some of his most loyal subjects into mindless zombies and guinea pigs for Dark Side Experiments.
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Tyber_Zahn Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 10/20/08 11:34am Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Alderaan was giving the Rebel Alliance poltical, logistical and financial support. It was also believed that someone on Alderaan had the Death Star plans. So not having a military force didn't mean it wasn't a threat to the Empire.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 10/20/08 11:43am Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Tyber_Zahn posted: Alderaan was giving the Rebel Alliance poltical, logistical and financial support. It was also believed that someone on Alderaan had the Death Star plans. So not having a military force didn't mean it wasn't a threat to the Empire. Well people ON Alderaan were, including the Head of State.
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DarthUr Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 10/20/08 1:01pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	Tyber_Zahn posted: If we're talking about individual evil there's an astrocrat in the Dark Times comics who buys non-human sentient slave children (aka younglings) and has them killed and prepared by his buttler droid for his dinner, so that is probably up there in the list of evil acts. The destruction of Alderaan would be lower on the list imo as it was politcally motivated and it was in the context of a war, same as how the US decided to drop nuclear bombs on Japan nea the end of WW2. Not that it wasn't an act of evil. The destruction of Alderaan was an individual decision on the part of Grand Moff Tarkin, and the primary purpose of it was to show off the power of the Death Star. How is that not evil? If I believed that the destruction of Hiroshima served no real purpose but to show off the power of the A-bomb, I would think of that as evil too. And destroying Alderaan, a Core World, is more like blowing up Tokyo or New York. Although even then it's a false analogy, because "planets = cities" is wrongheaded -- a real comparison to that would be a Star Destroyer blowing up the capital city on Alderaan. Blowing up the entire planet is, well, blowing up an entire planet. Imagine killing everyone on Earth because of something people in Tokyo had done.
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Ashandarei Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 10/20/08 1:06pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	It's pretty hard to top Tarkin's shot in ANH. Especially because he's so nonchalant about it. I'd say the Emperor's plan to essentially suck up everyone in the galaxy's life force and then expand to other galaxies in order to do more of the same was pretty damned evil. Moreso than Nihilus, who had essentially the same goal but actually had to do it in order to survive in the weird form he had taken. The Emperor didn't succeed, though, so Tarkin still takes the cake. -----signature----- What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
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Jedi_Matt Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 10/20/08 1:08pm Subject: RE: What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?
	In terms of destroying the Force. If the Vong won, and terraformed every single GFFA planet, that'd probably do it. But as you have 'Force' do you have 'Anti Force' like matter and anti-matter? -----signature----- Excellence - "'Cause some American-accent informed me Kun is Koon and Yun is Yoon doesn't mean I'm going to Megazord myself into robotic obediance."
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