posted:I don't agree. I think it does provide a set of answers, a very clear set. Meet the universe with love. The dark side is within you. Avoiding the dark comes from understanding your emotions, not walling them off. One with power must accept responsibility. Again, I think that to conclude, "Oh, it's just a jumble of stuff and none of it makes sense" is a disservice to the book and isn't the result of a very close reading.
nancyallen posted:rumsmuggler posted:Can you send a copy of that because I didn't see the actual killing in my ROTS dvd. I know it happened but I want to see it for myself You'd know the scene where Anakin is with the Younglings, right? This part doesn't actually show it but I think Obi Wan sees him killing them on the security footage.
rumsmuggler posted:Can you send a copy of that because I didn't see the actual killing in my ROTS dvd. I know it happened but I want to see it for myself
Darth_Carl99 posted:I still don't think your seeing my point Havoc. Yes there are messages of that kind on the book from Verge. But there are also completely contradictory messages in it too. Some to Jacen. Most to Nom Anor. Unlike most people, (and I presume you, I hope that isn't too presumptuous), I don't believe that what she tells Jacen is any more her PoV than what she tells Nom Anor. Absolutely anything she says in that book COULD represent her views. But we’re never given any way of telling. The books whole point is to leave the reader with nothing but questions at the end. Your left, (because of everything Verge says), wondering what right and wrong are, good and evil, the nature of the force and life itself. (And a great many other things). It makes you stop and question your own worldview and the foundations it's laid upon, and ultimately this questioning will either reveal your worldview to be flawed and in need of revision, or to be based upon solid foundations. At the end your left with the realisation that it's all down to interpretation. That in the end it all comes down to PoV, to what YOU believe, that there is no such thing as absolutes, only differing PoV. Which is why you are not WRONG in your interpretation of the book. It's just one way of interpreting it. It can however quite validly be interpreted as quite the opposite. It makes you ask questions, and then gives you a couple of hundred contradictory comments to build your own individual answer out of. Their is no one single valid way to interpret the morale message of the book because it doesn’t have one morale message. The only morale message it actually contains is your own personal morale message you get after your questioning is complete. Since I don’t believe anything Verge says I can’t build a message out of it, and simply go out of the book with lots of questions and no answers. Instead I found those answers elsewhere.
Lord_Vivec posted:Most evil act in SW: Exar Kun possessing Kyp Durron and destroying all those systems.
beccatoria posted: To actually address the original point, though, I think that Alderaan is right up there. I'm not sure there are a lot of other "evil" acts on a par with it. Even Carida - while larger in scale - was not necessarly larger in population and also, through some sort of twisted logic, could be designated as a legitmate military target with horrific collateral damage, and was perpetrated by a screwed up kid. Alderaan, by comparison, was perpetrated against a world of pacifists for no reason other than to terrify, and was done calculatingly.
MistrX posted:Carida had military targets. Carida itself was not a target. And to give at least some credit to Exar-influenced Kyp, he did Carida some time, albeit not much, to evacuate some of its people. Tarkin didn't.
TogashiAikune posted:beccatoria posted: To actually address the original point, though, I think that Alderaan is right up there. I'm not sure there are a lot of other "evil" acts on a par with it. Even Carida - while larger in scale - was not necessarly larger in population and also, through some sort of twisted logic, could be designated as a legitmate military target with horrific collateral damage, and was perpetrated by a screwed up kid. Alderaan, by comparison, was perpetrated against a world of pacifists for no reason other than to terrify, and was done calculatingly. Alderaan was funding and sheltering terrorists. If Carida was a military target so were they.
