RogueWompRat posted: He still wiped out an entire sentient species.
Charlemagne19 posted:RogueWompRat posted: He still wiped out an entire sentient species. Against KJA's authorial intent. So I stick with what's closest. The Caridans were an abomination who deserved it. Besides, Kyp didn't wipe out the Caridans, Ambassador Furghan certainly died elsewhere.
RogueWompRat posted: Did they really? Did this doofy looking species deserve to die because of military training facilities located on their planet, which most of the citizens probably had nothing to do with? Wanna wipe out the North Koreans with me this weekend, Charles?
posted:Kevin J. Anderson was clear. Every Caridan citizen was part of the military industrial complex on Carida, that includes the Caridans.
CooperTFN posted: And you believe that their society was completely devoid of political dissidents? Doctors? Teachers? Children?
CooperTFN posted:Man, you're fast. Fair point about Alderaan, but c'mon - even if we say that yes, their entire culture is evil or whatever...they still had children. You're denying the existence of a single innocent Caridan child.
posted:Caridan children? Caridans are born this way.
CooperTFN posted: posted:Caridan children? Caridans are born this way. Ah yes, just like mammals here on earth.
Darth_Carl99 posted:I still don't think your seeing my point Havoc. Yes there are messages of that kind on the book from Verge. But there are also completely contradictory messages in it too. Some to Jacen. Most to Nom Anor. Unlike most people, (and I presume you, I hope that isn't too presumptuous), I don't believe that what she tells Jacen is any more her PoV than what she tells Nom Anor. Absolutely anything she says in that book COULD represent her views. But we’re never given any way of telling. The books whole point is to leave the reader with nothing but questions at the end. Your left, (because of everything Verge says), wondering what right and wrong are, good and evil, the nature of the force and life itself. (And a great many other things). It makes you stop and question your own worldview and the foundations it's laid upon, and ultimately this questioning will either reveal your worldview to be flawed and in need of revision, or to be based upon solid foundations. At the end your left with the realisation that it's all down to interpretation. That in the end it all comes down to PoV, to what YOU believe, that there is no such thing as absolutes, only differing PoV. Which is why you are not WRONG in your interpretation of the book. It's just one way of interpreting it. It can however quite validly be interpreted as quite the opposite. It makes you ask questions, and then gives you a couple of hundred contradictory comments to build your own individual answer out of. Their is no one single valid way to interpret the morale message of the book because it doesn’t have one morale message. The only morale message it actually contains is your own personal morale message you get after your questioning is complete. Since I don’t believe anything Verge says I can’t build a message out of it, and simply go out of the book with lots of questions and no answers. Instead I found those answers elsewhere.
Excellence posted: Lord Frey's treachery of Robb. Rot his carcass to the abyss, you hear me, the . . . Star Wars, eh? Well . . . the blood-copulatory Yevetha ring a bell, and whistling lizards could enslave your soul, and for the love of leeches, somebody kill Sansa already!