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Kyptastic Title: Manager Emeritus SWD Co-Commish Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 5/1 7:14pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	I'm going to have to go against the grain here, and state that I did not like I,Jedi. Even though he created him, I can no longer stand reading about Corran Horn by Stackpole. I disliked him in the Rogue books, but because those weren't solely centered on Corran I still enjoyed them to an extent. Not here. I found Corran to moralising, self-important and overall just an unenjoyable character to read about. That said, I did like the scenes on Corellia, the character of Elegos and Luke wiping the floor with the Jensaarai. -----signature----- Valar Morghulis
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/1 7:23pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Kyptastic posted: I'm going to have to go against the grain here, and state that I did not like I,Jedi. Even though he created him, I can no longer stand reading about Corran Horn by Stackpole. I disliked him in the Rogue books, but because those weren't solely centered on Corran I still enjoyed them to an extent. Not here. I found Corran to moralising, self-important and overall just an unenjoyable character to read about. That said, I did like the scenes on Corellia, the character of Elegos and Luke wiping the floor with the Jensaarai. Not to disregard that Corran WAS annoying. I think he was supposed to be self-important and arrogant in the book. I confess, I rolled my eyes at how he seemed to think every woman was secretly about to jump him at any opportunity. -----signature----- Check out Halt Evil Doer!: The RPG setting for Super Heroes! Halt Evil Doer PDF: http://tinyurl.com/555axt
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Kyptastic Title: Manager Emeritus SWD Co-Commish Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 5/1 7:28pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Charlemagne19 posted: Kyptastic posted: I'm going to have to go against the grain here, and state that I did not like I,Jedi. Even though he created him, I can no longer stand reading about Corran Horn by Stackpole. I disliked him in the Rogue books, but because those weren't solely centered on Corran I still enjoyed them to an extent. Not here. I found Corran to moralising, self-important and overall just an unenjoyable character to read about. That said, I did like the scenes on Corellia, the character of Elegos and Luke wiping the floor with the Jensaarai. Not to disregard that Corran WAS annoying. I think he was supposed to be self-important and arrogant in the book. I confess, I rolled my eyes at how he seemed to think every woman was secretly about to jump him at any opportunity. Oh, no doubt. I can understand why others can enjoy it, and can, when I dissociate myself from my Corran dislike, see that myself. It's just that, considering the book is written through his point of view, I can't enjoy it from my own subjective point of view. -----signature----- Valar Morghulis
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ChildOfWinds Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 5/1 7:42pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	I really enjoyed rereading I, Jedi! Like MistrX, I got a sense of nostalgia for that early period of the EU. It was also so nice to have a single book adventure again, and one with a wonderfully satisfying ending, at that! I, Jedi has a little something for just about everyone's Star Wars tastes. It has the training of Jedi Knights, the infiltration of a pirate's organization, the confrontation of a Hutt Lord, an assault on an Imperial Governor's Palace, lightsaber battles, a kidnapping and rescue, exciting space battles, interesting Jedi philosophy, and vivid discriptions of what it's like to feel and use the Force. It has good plotting and characterizations, spirited dialogue, and lots of humor. I like the way Stackpole wove the story of Corran Horn's training and growth as a Jedi into the events of Kevin Anderson's Jedi Academy Trilogy. I really like the first person style of this book as the reader gets to see and feel everything from Corran's perspective. I like the way that through Corran, the reader gets to experience the Jedi Academy and Jedi training on Yavin 4. In I, Jedi, some of the Jedi training methods and practices of Anderson's trilogy seem more valid and useful than they did in the original trilogy, and some of Luke's seemingly strange decisions seem more logical. For example, when Luke took all of the apprentices into the grotto pool in the middle of the night in the JAT, it seemed like a very ridiculous and useless exercise. Yet, through Corran's experience here in becoming attuned to the Force and journeying with Luke through the galaxy, it seemed like a wonderous and important lesson. Likewise, I always thought (as does Corran in this book) that Luke's decision to allow Kyp to become a Jedi after disposing of the Sun Crusher was a rather poor one. I thought Kyp deserved more punishment for killing so many people on Carida. Yet, Stackpole has Luke explain this decision this way, "In dedicating his life to being a Jedi, Kyp is really under something of a life sentence." Even Corran admits that he can't come up with a better solution and that killing Kyp wouldn't make the galaxy any better. I think that Luke really needed someone like Corran Horn as he was restoring the Jedi Order from scratch. He needed someone to confide in; someone who interacted with him as an equal; someone to ground him. Luke had no Jedi colleagues or mentors when he started the Academy. Luke needed a friend and "sounding board" and Corran provided that for him. However, I do think that at times Corran was too opinionated and too bossy. He knew less about the Force and the Jedi than Luke did, but sometimes he acted as though HE were the Jedi Master. I also didn't like the lightsaber battle between Luke and Corran. I truly feel that even if Luke wasn't used to "rough and tumble" growing up, that he certainly should have come out the winner in that little duel. When a Jedi Master goes against a Jedi apprentice with one month's training, there should be no doubt about the outcome: The Jedi Master should be victorious, in my opinion. I did enjoy the camaraderie between Luke and Corran on the ship on the way to Susevi, and I liked the way they worked together when they freed Mirax. I thought it was very funny when Corran thought to himself that the only help Luke would have needed from him was to "hold his cloak" when they were fighting the Jensaari. It's been said that Luke was portrayed as "too powerful" in some of the Bantam books, but it seemed to me that new Jedi Corran Horn did quite a few powerful, flashy things with the Force in I, Jedi. For example, Corran contained the explosion of Shala's warehouse single-handedly by causing a fiery cyclone. Then he projected into the minds of everyone the image of a giant man holding a lightsaber. I thought that Corran was far more violent than necessary and that some of his actions crossed the line into Darkness. In the battle with the two drunken LazorLords, the Fastblasters, and in the battle with Remart, Corran was actually cruel. With Remart, Corran was not only extremely violent and merciless, his reasons for causing such severe damage to Remart were selfish and vengeful. Corran even admitted to himself that he had beaten Remart in a way that purposely destroyed his physical appeal in order that he not only punish Rmart, but also Tavira for choosing Remart over Corran. I thought that Corran killed the two Stormtroopers in the Governor's palace without fair warning too. At least he stopped himself with Tavira before breaking his vows to Mirax. I was glad about that. There is a lot of wonderful humor in this book. From Corran's Corellian jokes to his funny and charming self-deprecations, this novel was peppered with humorous passages and dialogue. In this, I, JEDI reminded me of the "Star Wars" films. Sometimes at the tensest moments, a little humor lightened the situation just enough. It has been many years since I read I, Jedi, and I was surprised how much I had forgotten about it. I'm glad I had the opportunity to reread it. I really enjoyed it! I had the opportunity to talk to Mike Stackpole for about fifteen minutes when I, Jedi first came out. One of the things I said to him was that I really liked the first person style of the book and that as much as I hate Dark Empire, that I'd like to see a novelization of DE told from Luke's perspective, written in first person. Stackpole said he'd love to write such a book. Too bad it's never been done, as maybe then Luke's reasons for going to Byss might make more sense.
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 5/1 7:50pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	I, Jedi is one of my favourite all time EU novels, the only problem I have with it was how quickly Corran was accepted by the Invids. -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Katana_Geldar/Jacen_Solo%2C_Vergere_and_the_Force You love your noir? http://boards.theforce.net/before_the_saga/b10475/28179404/p1/?10 Aliena nobis, nostra plus aliis placent.
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Jedi Vince Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 5/1 9:07pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi! - Date Edited: 5/1 9:09pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi Vince
	beccatoria posted: Vince - it's really interesting that you feel the JAT sequence was less satisfying because it was secondary to the more epic events of KJA's trilogy. That doesn't seem to be the general feeling here, but you do make me wonder if perhaps I'd feel differently had I read the book immediately after the JAT? Even the first time through, I read I, Jedi a long time after I read JAT so my experience of it was as a fun re-visit, not an anticlimactic mid-way "boss fight"? Still, in general I was surprised by how tense the fight with Kun was despite my knowing how it would end. I think perhaps because even though we knew Kun would be physically beaten and Corran would physically survive (with it only being the middle of the book) it was the psychological fight that was truly crippling? That's a great call -- I actually reread the JAT last January, and it's still pretty fresh in my mind. I didn't even think of that when I posted my thoughts, but that's probably why the events introduced in Anderson's trilogy didn't really resonate very strongly with me during my second read of I, Jedi. Looking back to my first read of I, Jedi, however, I also found the JAT events to be a fun re-visit. *edited for clarity -----signature----- John McCain / Sarah Palin in '08 Before voting in November, read the series "The Audacity of Socialism" written by Investor's Business Daily. If you still want to vote for the Obamassiah, you have problems.
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Fettster Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 5/1 9:09pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	ChildOfWinds posted: It's been said that Luke was portrayed as "too powerful" in some of the Bantam books, but it seemed to me that new Jedi Corran Horn did quite a few powerful, flashy things with the Force in I, Jedi. For example, Corran contained the explosion of Shala's warehouse single-handedly by causing a fiery cyclone. Then he projected into the minds of everyone the image of a giant man holding a lightsaber. Well, the book did mention that that sort of energy absorption-and-redirection was a defining trait of the Halcyon family, and it did lead up to a great punchline--"Where is the rest of your speeder bike?!" More later. <_<
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MistrX Registered: Jun '06	Date Posted: 5/1 9:12pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Katana_Geldar posted: I, Jedi is one of my favourite all time EU novels, the only problem I have with it was how quickly Corran was accepted by the Invids. I couldn't help but wonder about that one, too. Maybe it's better that they just dealt with it than making it an issue, but it still seems a bit quick. -----signature----- "The only thing more insane than falsehood is truth." We are well and truly forked.
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Callina Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/1 9:16pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Master_Keralys posted: The GFFA seems to have a rather unique moral outlook on this particular topic: fooling around before marriage doesn't seem to be terribly frowned upon, but doing so after marriage is a big no-no. Isn't that the dominant moral outlook of our own society? Sex outside of marriage is broadly (not universally) accepted, though adultery is disapproved. I can see the logic behind it. The sin of adultery is vow-breaking - treachery against a spouse. There is no treachery involved in pre-marital sex; that is why even people who condemn fornication have considered it a much lesser sin than adultery. I think the question of the morality of pre-marital sex hinges on how much significance is attached to the sex act in and of itself. Lenin said that the sex act should be as unimportant as drinking a glass of water - and no one ponders the larger morality of drinking water, let alone proposes certain solemn prerequisites. The opposite view of Lenin's would be the Apostle Paul's, who said that a man and woman who sleep together become one in body. There is no such thing as "casual sex" with this point of view. To say that two people become one in body is a mystical statement; a mystical result is attributed to a physical act. That is why the idea that there is - not imagined, not felt, but actual inherent significance - to the sex act is almost necessarily a religious proposition. Religion - as it has been understood and practiced by the west for two thousand years - is almost completely absent from Star Wars. So is its teachings on the significance of sex. And if - to come back to the GFFA's view point on all this - there is no significance or larger morality to sex, there is no reason not to "fool around" before marriage, and the reason not to fool around after marriage is, as I said before, because of infidelity to one's husband/wife. -----signature----- A man would have to rise to the dizziest heights of the divine understanding before he saw, as from a peak far above a whirlpool, how precious is his perishing soul. ~G. K. Chesterton
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Nobody145 Registered: Feb '07	Date Posted: 5/1 9:20pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	One of my greatest regrets is that I donated away my I, Jedi hardcover. Unfortunately, that particular year I wasn't that interested in Star Wars, so while my mom was cleaning and throwing out stuff, I didn't notice or care that much. Oh well, at least the paperbacks are still around. Don't have much time to type all my thoughts, and I'm still glancing through it, as it takes me a while to get used to Stackpole's introspective/lecturing/"Ah, now I've learned something new!" writing, though its still funny. I love how it weaves in with the JAT's events, but analyzes them quite thoroughly, a bit more than the original JAT, though I haven't read that for years though. I just don't remember Luke ever doing much about Gantoris suddenly swinging a lightsaber at Luke, though Luke's analysis of Gantoris, that even with Exar Kun's temptation, Gantoris didn't go evil (but unfortunately still died horribly), so he wasn't that big a threat. One of the highlights of the book though was Luke's later portrayal, when he teams up with Corran to help him finish off his case and rescue Mirax. During that final lightsaber duel, I just like how Corran realizes the only help Luke needed in the previous lightsaber fight was for Corran was to hold Luke's cloak. I also liked Mara's appearances in the book. Did they ever follow up on those comments of Mirax and Mara being somewhat similar? I think Wookieepedia said Mara and Mirax worked together for a bit after Mara's marriage to Luke (when they were stil dealing with other business first before getting used to being married), but can't remmeber if there was ever a specific comic or book, or if it was just referred to off-hand. I think one of the best parts of rereading this book was the generally peaceful nature of the galaxy at the time. Sure, there was Tavira and her pirates, but that's just what they were, pirates. A minor threat, on a galactic scale, though still worth stomping out and/or capturing of course. Coruscant is safe, Rogue Squadron isn't being hurled against too many impossible fights, Luke's Jedi Academy is flourishing, and all is mostly right with the galaxy. These days in the EU, it almost seems too perfect. I'll probably chime in with more thoughts later. Still a pretty good book, especially since Stackpole can now focus almost exclusively on Corran, rather than splitting the focus during the Rogue Squardon books. -----signature----- Don't mind me, I'm nobody important.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 5/1 10:18pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	I will admit, one of the details I liked was the room Corran occupied in the Temple, and the words carved into it, The Empire or Us-there is no compromise. Biggs Darklighter, Wedge Antilles, Jek Prokins. Ah, for the days when Yavin IV still had the Temple and the Jedi were in ascendance once more! How I miss this era. -----signature----- E-married to the wonderful DarthIshtar. Now also her Padawan. Member of the Y.J.K. Revolution Staring into the Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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Fettster Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 5/1 10:44pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Nobody145 posted: I also liked Mara's appearances in the book. Did they ever follow up on those comments of Mirax and Mara being somewhat similar? I think Wookieepedia said Mara and Mirax worked together for a bit after Mara's marriage to Luke (when they were stil dealing with other business first before getting used to being married), but can't remmeber if there was ever a specific comic or book, or if it was just referred to off-hand. The only reference I recall came from one of NJO's Dark Tide books--"We were acquitted" or something like that. I don't have the time to search for it offhand, nor do I recall whether it was Onslaught or Ruin (though I suspect the latter).
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beccatoria Title: 181st Imperial Discussion Group host Registered: Dec '06	Date Posted: 5/2 5:48am Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Honestly, I go to bed and this place explodes! Not that I'm complaining There were so many things I wanted to comment on, I just went through the thread chronologically quote-replying. I hope it doesn't end up looking too confusing... If it does, blame yourselves for being so interesting! JediAlly posted: ICorran's discussion with Luke before leaving and his remarks about Luke's teaching methods expanded upon what Mara said to Luke in Vision of the Future about what he had done since The Last Command. I noticed that too! I ended up going to look up the publishing dates because there was enough subtle foreshadowing of those events and Luke and Mara's eventual romantic involvement that I wondered if it had been published after HoT. It was actually published in the middle, and knowing how much Zahn and Stackpole like to interact and use each other's characters I wouldn't be surprised if Stackpole was making an effort to link up with HoT. I think HoT is also where Elegos makes his first re-appearance. I know it was the first I read anything of Elegos and I loved him there. Master_Keralys posted: Becca - yes, I do intend to make a few more comparisons to Shatterpoint. First, however, I need to get a copy of the book, and I have no idea when that's going to happen. Hurry, curse you! I'm looking forward to this... Flowerlady posted: I, Jedi is probably my favorite SW books and the only one I've read twice. Funny, considering when I started reading the books back in May 2005 after RotS was out, I almost didn't read it. It was a long time before 2005 for me, but actually I almost didn't read it either. I skipped over it in favour of reading the new Hand of Thrawn stuff that had just been released and nearly didn't go back to read I, Jedi because I hadn't read the X-Wing books and didn't know this Corran and wasn't certain I could be bothered to find out about something that had "already happened", etc... Like you, I'm glad I changed my mind. It's not one of my favourite-evers, but it was at the time, and as I think I've said, re-reading it was a lot more fun than I was expecting. AdmiralNick22 posted: That opening battle with pirates is fun because it shows just how damned good the Rogues were. I also loved the battle where Corran went up against his Rogue buddies and had to work out how to survive and win without killing them. I think for me that was the tensest part of the book, and Corran's Jedi perceptions of the other Rogues' flying skills really hammered home to me how impressive they were. Charlemagne19 posted: Overall, I think what works so well for Corran Horn is the fact that he does take time to comment on the absurdities of "Jedi Academy" but also to take a step back and realize that Luke Skywalker is probably making the most of the situation as is. Also, it's nice to have someone comment about the obvious question 'Just having bad thoughts is not going to corrupt you.' I really agree. I felt that I was able to take the occasionally silly set up (I felt) of the Jedi Academy much more seriously simply because there was a more...grounded character hanging lanterns on those issues? But at the same time, Stackpole manages to acknowledge the flaws in the opinions and perceptions of that character so it stops short of making Luke look incompetant. Kyptastic posted: I'm going to have to go against the grain here, and state that I did not like I,Jedi. Even though he created him, I can no longer stand reading about Corran Horn by Stackpole. I disliked him in the Rogue books, but because those weren't solely centered on Corran I still enjoyed them to an extent. Not here. I found Corran to moralising, self-important and overall just an unenjoyable character to read about. Thanks for offering a dissenting opinion! It's always good to see things from the other side, and frankly, I can see where you're coming from. As I noted earlier in the thread, my personal feeling was that there were enough points where Corran realised his own arrogance and moralising and self-importantness that I ended up feeling secure in understanding that I was not meant to agree with everything he did, but rather find his character interesting and basically a good dude. But it's a very fine line, and I've certainly been on the other side of it regarding characters before. In TV shows especially, I seem to latch onto the one guy who everyone loves and thinks is heroic and view the guy as a complete jerk... ChildOfWinds posted: I think that Luke really needed someone like Corran Horn as he was restoring the Jedi Order from scratch. He needed someone to confide in; someone who interacted with him as an equal; someone to ground him. Luke had no Jedi colleagues or mentors when he started the Academy. Luke needed a friend and "sounding board" and Corran provided that for him. However, I do think that at times Corran was too opinionated and too bossy. He knew less about the Force and the Jedi than Luke did, but sometimes he acted as though HE were the Jedi Master. Windy! Welcome! So glad you enjoyed the reread. If it helps - my take on the duel was that Luke was definintely not himself there. I thought that the toll of constantly having to fight against Exar Kun's presence was taking a serious toll on him. That and the fact that Corran was really going for him and Luke...didn't want to be fighting and didn't want to hurt Corran, but couldn't think clearly. The fact that Corran realises at the end that Luke could have handled all the Jensaarai and only needed him to hold his cloak suggests Stackpole thinks as you do - no one beats the Jedi Master with a blade! Which makes me think it's more than likely his being beaten by Corran was supposed to show how confused and worn down he was at the time - the dark side had clouded his thinking and sapped his will? If it had been a real life-or-death fight, I'm sure he would have won anyway. On some level, I think Luke just wasn't trying. Incidentally, I love the ending. Corran (and Mirax!) gets his moment to shine and be the hero by beating the student of the one who killed his grandfather, in a challenging and tense duel. Luke gets to demonstrate he's still the Man. It's a good example of how to keep Luke at his appropriate and impressive skill level while not having him rush in to save the day preventing other people from getting the chance to save the day too. Fettster posted: Well, the book did mention that that sort of energy absorption-and-redirection was a defining trait of the Halcyon family, and it did lead up to a great punchline--"Where is the rest of your speeder bike?!" That was one of my favourite parts of the whole book! Scratch that, one of the funniest bits of EU I've ever read! Nobody145 posted: I think Wookieepedia said Mara and Mirax worked together for a bit after Mara's marriage to Luke (when they were stil dealing with other business first before getting used to being married), but can't remmeber if there was ever a specific comic or book, or if it was just referred to off-hand. It's referenced in the early NJO that they went off on some wild holiday/some joint business venture and both got arrested for criminal damage! It's suggested that once Mara becomes a Jedi they become friends - so yes, that comment in I, Jedi about them never meeting was great! - but CRIMINALLY this has never actually been chronicled in the EU. I would totally read a comic book or novel about Mara and Mirax shooting the breeze and shooting up the galaxy in between HoT and VP! RK_Striker_JK_5 posted: I will admit, one of the details I liked was the room Corran occupied in the Temple, and the words carved into it, The Empire or Us-there is no compromise. Biggs Darklighter, Wedge Antilles, Jek Prokins. I really liked that too. I actually found it one of the most affecting moments in the entire novel. It was so simple, and about something that had happened over a decade ago, but suddenly I remembered that two of those three people had died the next day and the fact that the Death Star assault had had such a high casualty rate, just...not among the characters we cared about. It was a bunch of teenagers and young men and women fighting an opponent that controlled most of the galaxy. It was, in some ways, as brutal in terms of death count and lost potential as the Myrkr Strike Team mission, and I'd never thought of it in those terms before. Anyway, great stuff guys, thanks for continuing to make this thread awesome! -----signature----- legatus imperatoris britanniæ superior REMEMBER: YOUNG JEDI KNIGHTS 1 - 3 DISCUSSION STARTS IN OCTOBER! Han's a girl, so I got a Golden Ewok.
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Corusca_One Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 5/2 9:47am Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	This book really boosted Corran's character up there for me. I had liked him in the X-Wing novels, but this underlined it. It did that both because of the POV and as mentioned how he interacts with characters like Luke Skywalker. While at times he seems full of himself, one of those people that says "I know your the Jedi Master but if I can just advise you on this...", it just made his character more human and fallible. It also meant that when he realised he had these flaws we could sympathise. However what I really like about Corran is that he is very unique. He was arguably Stackpole's 'pet' character back in the days of X-Wing, but here he evolves in to someone who deserves more than that. Like Mara Jade in fact. Despite his mostly friendly critisism of Luke he comes to the realisation that Luke is the Jedi Master for a reason, and instead of saving the day outright he achieves his character goal in his own way. In my opinion the way Stackpole wrote it, so that the Halcyon line of Jedi had less telekinetic ability, but were more adept at mind altering powers and energy absorbtion, was excellent. It definied Corran as being different to Luke and many other Jedi, yet left the door open for us to have more varied Jedi characters in the future. In the end it showed we could be given a great character study that really lets an already existing character with potential shine, without having them become incredibly powerful or challenge Luke Skywalker for real. Maybe its the recent focus on the Skysolo's, or maybe its the influence of computer games such as Jedi Knight and KotOR where the lead character must always become extremely powerful but I feel this last point is something being overlooked recently. Its easy to forget that some of the greatest Jedi the Order has ever seen were considered great not because of flashy powers, brushes with the Dark Side, confrontations with the Sith or even a famous name. They were legends because of their actions, and because of what they gave to the Order and the Galaxy it protects. Personally I consider this to mean people like Obi Wan and Zayne Carrick. -----signature----- A D'Kana. What would Gryph do? "I don't want to hear any Pessimistic Panakas and their prophecies of continuity gloom and doom..." -Barriss_Coffee Zayne Carrick is Zayne Carrick!
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of Awayness Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 5/2 2:45pm Subject: RE: The 181st Imperial Discussion Group: I, Jedi!
	Yeah, I really liked the way that Stackpole took some of the more head-scratching JAT moments and, instead of ignoring them, analyzed them and integrated them into the story with actual explanations that made sense. That's a really great way to handle continuity. -----signature----- Slaughter is the best medicine Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Sexually Ambiguous Tusken Raider™ and a Special Golden Ewok™ "Reality doesn't care if you believe it." - Boba Fett
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