Author Topic: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1 (of 4)
Zorrixor  4300 posts
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Date Posted: 5/10/08 2:54pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1 - Date Edited: 5/10/08 2:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
Havac posted:
Zorrixor posted:
Heck, we know nothing about her apart from that she was alive and having visions 20 or so years ago. I remain highly suspicious of why they haven't revealed her face in the present time period (i.e. I'll eat my hat if she isn't someone we already know or seriously disfigured or else not on Coruscant but actually living it up with some cultists on Malachor or whatever).

I still think she's dead and Haazen is posing as her to give orders.

Could be. I wouldn't put it past Haazen to have killed her and manipulated the Covenant for his own ends.

Though there's something about Haazen being the real bad guy that just feels a bit dull to me. There really shouldn't be any reason why since we've probably seen Haazen more than Krynda so where I'm about to say "because we've seen Krynda more than Haazen" I'm not really being that correct. There's just something I like about Kyrnda's mysteriousness more than Haazen. He just seems too easily read in a "Duh... he's a Sith!" way.

I suppose it would serve Lucien right for treating him like just a 'failed Padawan' though if he realised right before he died that his family had been manipulated by a Sith spy all along. Hmm... actually, I could dig that, if Zayne spared Lucien's life but then he gets killed by Haazen who doesn't want anyone finding out what the Covenant has been up to.

In fact, there's an interesting parallel there since both Zayne and Haazen are failed Padawans. Hmm... maybe Haazen being the anti-Zayne isn't as boring as I thought. thinking

 

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Date Posted: 5/10/08 2:57pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Master_Keralys posted:
I think for once I actually agree with Ex. There's not actually a good reason for Lucien to be looking at the "camera" when he's going after Zayne.


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Date Posted: 5/10/08 3:03pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
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CoruscaOne posted:
Though strangely for a computer game we never see him reload.
Maybe he is using a cheat. wink
Reloading always takes long - you might know it as "the time between two issues"... wink

 

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Rouge77  7450 posts
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Date Posted: 5/10/08 3:25pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1 - Date Edited: 5/10/08 3:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rouge77
Zorrixor posted:
Though there's something about Haazen being the real bad guy that just feels a bit dull to me. There really shouldn't be any reason why since we've probably seen Haazen more than Krynda so where I'm about to say "because we've seen Krynda more than Haazen" I'm not really being that correct. There's just something I like about Kyrnda's mysteriousness more than Haazen. He just seems too easily read in a "Duh... he's a Sith!" way.

I suppose it would serve Lucien right for treating him like just a 'failed Padawan' though if he realised right before he died that his family had been manipulated by a Sith spy all along. Hmm... actually, I could dig that, if Zayne spared Lucien's life but then he gets killed by Haazen who doesn't want anyone finding out what the Covenant has been up to.


Lucien might have his doubts already. Haazen was the one who said that the Padawans should not have been killed and should have instead been sent to Coruscant so that the Covenant could examine them, which probably means they Taris members or at least Lucien had orders for such a situation. I don't think it would be a huge secret if Lucien would have decided that the Padawans must be killed not only to stop the visions from coming true, but also to stop them from ending in the hands of Haazen. Also, I wonder how many of these Sith items that the Shadow Agents have captured might have ended up in Haazen's hands, if he really is the real bad guy in this whole thing? confused

 

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Date Posted: 5/10/08 6:50pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1 - Date Edited: 5/10/08 6:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue_Follower
Yeah, I'm curious what the Covenant does with the artifacts it's gathered. Do they have a giant warehouse, a la Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or do they just destroy them? thinking

 

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Date Posted: 5/10/08 11:40pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
I think its been mentioned already in the comic what they do with Sith artifacts- some they store, like in that warehouse on Feln's homeworld (I think), and some they destroy, like how they mentioned Celeste had destroyed the last epithet of somebody. Probably store some stuff and destroy the really dangerous stuff.

 

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Amon_Amarth  9557 posts
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Date Posted: 5/11/08 5:33am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Rogue_Follower posted:
Yeah, I'm curious what the Covenant does with the artifacts it's gathered. Do they have a giant warehouse, a la Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or do they just destroy them? thinking

I think that in the future, some of those artifacts may find their way to Atris' academy.

 

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Bly  1044 posts
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Date Posted: 5/11/08 7:36am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Rogue_Follower posted:
Yeah, I'm curious what the Covenant does with the artifacts it's gathered. Do they have a giant warehouse, a la Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or do they just destroy them? thinking

They've got top men working on them. wink

 

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Date Posted: 5/11/08 7:47am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Bly posted:
Rogue_Follower posted:
Yeah, I'm curious what the Covenant does with the artifacts it's gathered. Do they have a giant warehouse, a la Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or do they just destroy them? thinking

They've got top men working on them. wink


But who? Do we know them?

 

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Date Posted: 5/11/08 7:52am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Top. Men.

 

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Corusca_One  641 posts
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Date Posted: 5/11/08 3:47pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Rogue_Follower posted:
Top. Men.


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I'm guessing then that in a future ark (heh) some nefarious bad folk will break into the place for reasons as yet unknown?

Zayne Carrick and the Raiders of Andeddu's Tomb?

 

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Shadojoker  1095 posts
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Date Posted: 5/11/08 4:43pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
BobaMatt posted:
Zayne's in that position against Masters a lot. He should learn how to hold on to his saber and not fall.


Getting damn tired of seeing Zayne in this position..soon it should be the other way around with the Jedi Covenant cowering in fear..with Zayne sporting Red Eyes...and a red lightsaber..jk bout the Sith part..but one of these issues...Zayne gotta snap!

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Date Posted: 5/12/08 1:24am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Zorrixor posted:
Havac posted:
Zorrixor posted:
Heck, we know nothing about her apart from that she was alive and having visions 20 or so years ago. I remain highly suspicious of why they haven't revealed her face in the present time period (i.e. I'll eat my hat if she isn't someone we already know or seriously disfigured or else not on Coruscant but actually living it up with some cultists on Malachor or whatever).

I still think she's dead and Haazen is posing as her to give orders.

Could be. I wouldn't put it past Haazen to have killed her and manipulated the Covenant for his own ends.

Though there's something about Haazen being the real bad guy that just feels a bit dull to me. There really shouldn't be any reason why since we've probably seen Haazen more than Krynda so where I'm about to say "because we've seen Krynda more than Haazen" I'm not really being that correct. There's just something I like about Kyrnda's mysteriousness more than Haazen. He just seems too easily read in a "Duh... he's a Sith!" way.

I suppose it would serve Lucien right for treating him like just a 'failed Padawan' though if he realised right before he died that his family had been manipulated by a Sith spy all along. Hmm... actually, I could dig that, if Zayne spared Lucien's life but then he gets killed by Haazen who doesn't want anyone finding out what the Covenant has been up to.

In fact, there's an interesting parallel there since both Zayne and Haazen are failed Padawans. Hmm... maybe Haazen being the anti-Zayne isn't as boring as I thought. thinking


I also think that Haazen has killed Krynda. The conversations that he has had with Lucien are just......odd somehow. I wouldn't mind learning down the line that Haazen has been laying this out for a long time. Upset at his general "Failed Padawan" status, he ends up getting butchered/burned up when he betrays and kills Barrison Draay. He returns to Krynda "Saddened" with news of her husbands Death and stays on with the Widow....encouraging her to build resources that he will eventually grab for himself.

Randomly killing Krynda makes him look "Meh". Having him plan this hostile takeover over a few decades is more intersting.

 

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Date Posted: 5/12/08 3:31am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
Shadojoker posted:

Getting damn tired of seeing Zayne in this position..soon it should be the other way around with the Jedi Covenant cowering in fear..with Zayne sporting Red Eyes...and a red lightsaber..jk bout the Sith part..but one of these issues...Zayne gotta snap!

That's not really Zayne's character. I'm all for him bringing Covenant to justice, but I don't think he should do it in a cold-blooded revenge style.


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Zayne Carrick and the Raiders of Andeddu's Tomb?

Awesome! grin
And JJM is one of the authors of the new Indiana Jones comic, so...you never know... wink
Also, it would not be surprising to expect such an adventure, now that Jarael looks like Lara Croft in #29. tongue

 

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Jeff_Ferguson  1665 posts
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Date Posted: 5/12/08 11:52pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #32: Vindication, part 1
MistrX posted:
I can't believe this'll be 32 issues in. Doesn't seem like all that long ago we were on #1. Quite intriguing.


I hear ya. I still remember when everything was so new in this series, but I've loved following it for nearly two and a half years now. Here's for (at least) two and a half more!

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Alternatively, it may be the point Zayne realises the Covenant are not the real threat. After all, this is just one of their 'Watch Circles'. He has already fleetingly heard the name Krynda but knows nothing about her. Heck, we know nothing about her apart from that she was alive and having visions 20 or so years ago. I remain highly suspicious of why they haven't revealed her face in the present time period (i.e. I'll eat my hat if she isn't someone we already know or seriously disfigured or else not on Coruscant but actually living it up with some cultists on Malachor or whatever).

So, even if Lucien dies, it may emerge he was not the big boss after all and that the real bad guy is still out there. I'm guessing that will be Krynda.


Wonderful thought. If the Covenant were to go down, and Zayne were to find himself in the midst of an even bigger mess, that would be very interesting, indeed.

I'm just a little upset because I thought that Turnabout was a six-parter, not a one-parter. We haven't had a six-part arc since Commencement.

 

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