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Jedimarine
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5/15 9:53am
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but considering the conversation around Padme...one would assume that only the OT has this in-universe treatment...no such work is in place for the PT.
yet... 
So George is alone on responsibility for those...
The OT comes to us from a Galaxy far far Away...the PT is a earthling creation.
IT ALL BECOMES CLEAR!
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BobaMatt
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Ulicus posted:
It's basically a situation where if... say... "Walk the Line" was 100% accurate.
You mean it's not? 
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Jedimarine
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I have to ask...do the holovid people hire Gungans...or do they CG them too? 
Does Han still step on Jabba's tale? 
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Ulicus
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Jedimarine posted:
but considering the conversation around Padme...one would assume that only the OT has this in-universe treatment...no such work is in place for the PT.
yet...
So George is alone on responsibility for those...
The OT comes to us from a Galaxy far far Away...the PT is a earthling creation.
IT ALL BECOMES CLEAR!
The PT was made between the events of DNT and Legacy.
People moaned about the guy they got to portray the Hero With No Fear. Apparantly, according to those who had been younglings at the time of the Clone Wars, he had none of his charisma and presence. 
BobaMatt posted:
You mean it's not?
I don't think it is.
Jedimarine posted:
I have to ask...do the holovid people hire Gungans...or do they CG them too?
Does Han still step on Jabba's tale?
They have live actors... but Voren did release a special edition where he made some edits based on: "new information recently come to light".
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BobaMatt
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Oh man...George Lucas is a Whill!
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Jedimarine
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rumsmuggler posted:
"You can try and win it back if you want!"
had to add. 
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rumsmuggler
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I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks.
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Darky5K
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Ris_jSarek posted:
And the Senate itself was informed, but they didn't recognize the guy who they look at every day? If a Senate of literally THOUSANDS of people couldn't recognize their Chancellor under that hood, why would a security officer who has probably only seen Palpy a handful of times in his life recognize him?
It's just a suggestion. Sometimes you don't recognize it until you see that same person wearing what they wore and saying what they said. Much like a lineup at the police station
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Darky5K
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BobaMatt posted:
Seriously, why are we asking Panaka to have put something together that the CIS leadership never put together in fifteen years? Hell, Clark Kent had things harder than Palps. Almost no one knew that there were Sith involved, fewer people had heard the name Darth Sidious, even fewer knew what he looked like and those people were all killed shortly thereafter.
The CIS leaders did know, didn't they? The novels jumped back and forth on the issue, they knew at least he was a senator. The fact Dooku acted like a Sith, and then the Emperor, by 'coincidence' has a Sith WORKING for him, a 'normal' man?
That'd be like all-powerful aliens working for a dumb dope dealer.
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Darky5K
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Charlemagne19 posted:
Jedimarine posted:
Thousands of people cheering in the streets of Theed at the end of ROTJ seems to make it pretty concrete there wasn't much love for the Empire on the sovereign's native orb.
There's some conflicting reports really.
Palpatine has his retreat on Naboo and left the Queen in place.
However, the Gungans were said to hate the Empire plus the Naboo are a ridiculously Pro-Democracy people. They're Alderaan-light.
In Lucas' vision, the Empire didn't enjoy widespread support over most of the galaxy. Only the Core (and not all planets of the Core as Alderaan proves) which is a 5th of the territory and hardly the majority of the people (only most humans come from the Core---the galaxy has countless native species spread throughout it)
Many humans enjoyed the Empire because they leeched off the suffering of the other aliens in the galaxy. Besides, Apiliana was proof that Palpatine did NOT leave the Queen alone. The new one was a puppet.
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Darky5K
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Jedimarine posted:
See...now I thought with the exception of the brass and the immediate company of the Big 3...it was pretty much not known...now perhaps if you really wanted to know, you could find the truth...but I thought the myth of Anakin dying at the temple and Vader being distinct were the "common thought" among galactic citizenry.
People didn't know until after the Empire fell, but I think if it were an accepted fact the Hero With No Fear, the Chosen One, etc, was killed by Palpatine after all his heroics, that would further alienate the Empire, especially from the worlds Anakin saved.
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BobaMatt
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Darky5K posted:
\The CIS leaders did know, didn't they? The novels jumped back and forth on the issue, they knew at least he was a senator. The fact Dooku acted like a Sith, and then the Emperor, by 'coincidence' has a Sith WORKING for him, a 'normal' man?
That'd be like all-powerful aliens working for a dumb dope dealer.
Which is why Palpatine had the CIS leadership killed.
Also, the Empire largely thinks Vader's a Jedi, or that he's a Sith but Palpatine's not. IIRC, Ron Shryne's first conclusion upon seeing Vader is that Vader must have been either Dooku's master or apprentice.
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Darky5K
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BobaMatt posted:
Which is why Palpatine had the CIS leadership killed.
Also, the Empire largely thinks Vader's a Jedi, or that he's a Sith but Palpatine's not. IIRC, Ron Shryne's first conclusion upon seeing Vader is that Vader must have been either Dooku's master or apprentice.
That's true, however we can also justify it by the fact that Shryne's encounter was just after Order 66, amidst a lot of confusion and such. Even with Vader being a Dark Jedi/Sith, people remembered the Sith from a thousand years ago. They did too much to be forgotten, and in Anakin's Journal, he remembered a guy who knew about the Sith.
They had to be in the history books. We still remember Genghis Khan and the brutality of the Roman Emperors. Especially with the red lighstaber and classic Sith title of 'Darth', I'm sure many in the Rebellion had an idea he was Sith.
Even if people believed Palpatine wasn't a Force-sensitive, it'd be stupid to believe a Sith or Dark Jedi, with all their power, would bow to a man who wouldn't stand a chance against them. That's why I said the alien/dope dealer comparison. Why do that when you can dominate it all? People would be stupid if they believed that.
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Ulicus
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I think people can know Vader's a Sith and still think that he's "all that remains of the Jedi", ala Tarkin.
Because, to someone who thinks the Jedi are dead... it's true. Vader is all that's left of the Jedi, and he's a Sith now. 
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