Author Topic: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
ThrawnRocks  14867 posts
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Date Posted: 8/5 11:38pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
Valin__Kenobi posted:
I just reread Republic 66 (Show of Force pt 2) and something jumped out at me in the scene where Dooku "offs" Kh'aris Fenn:

Dooku posted:
Not only did you steal from me, you needlessly duplicated my efforts and destroyed my plans for Ryloth! My friend, I would have given you Ryloth to govern had you obeyed my wishes. Instead, you disobeyed, lied, and stole from me. An example must be made.


And then Quinlan Vos shows up, beheads him, and sends the Jedi Council the home movie of it. shock

Anyway, is there any chance this could be retconned as the lead-in to the Ryloth trilogy of episodes? Fenn screws up Dooku's original plan to control Ryloth, so he goes ahead and has Wat Tambor seize the world directly?

P.S.: The comic takes place 17 months ABG ... for what that's worth.

Good catch. The thing is, if we keep everything where it is for now, Anakin is still a Padawan in Forever Young witch takes place a month after Show of Force, meaning it may not be an immediate lead in. However I could see that the delay in time between this comic and the attack on Ryloth could be because Fenn screwed with Dooku, setting back plans of conquest back by several months.

 

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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 8/6 7:13pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
Again, any "Padawan" references can be turned into "Knight" references.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10391 posts
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Date Posted: 8/6 7:15pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
blackmyron posted:
The CWAS has inadvertedly provided a solution, in keeping Anakin working with Obi-Wan despite no longer being his Padawan.


That was already in ROTS.

 

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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 8/6 7:43pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
Not to mention Labyrinth of Evil. But for some reason it really wasn't brought up at the time, possibly because of the unthinkable nature of simply ignoring "Padawan" references - there was also the idea of the "six-month compression" which allowed the stories to remain intact, but the CWAS books threw that idea into chaos.
Again, barring any more surprises in the second season, I don't see why we can't just ignore Anakin's status and keep virtually the entire existing Clone Wars timeline intact at this point (Jedi Trial being the glaring exception)

 

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Havac  14326 posts
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Date Posted: 8/8 10:21pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
Well, the problem is that you're losing the visuals that way. All the comic panels showing Padawan Anakin are effectively rendered noncanon. I'd just as soon preserve the integrity of the comics themselves, and toss the TCW tie-in dates as well as the original dates, while we're in the date-tossing business.

 

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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 8/8 10:37pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
The problem is that the Jabiim story takes place over a considerable length of time, making it nearly impossible to fit without changing the story anyways.
At this point, I'm just going to let it ride until the end of the CWAS and stop trying to reconcile the two timelines. I guess I'll see what Chee works out in the end.

 

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CooperTFN  4589 posts
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Date Posted: 8/8 10:54pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
I'll be impressed if Leland Chee doesn't end up in a padded room by the end of the season.

 

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Armchair_Admiral  329 posts
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Date Posted: 8/8 11:09pm Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
CooperTFN posted:
I'll be impressed if Leland Chee doesn't end up in a padded room by the end of the season.



Sorry, but I really wanted a chance to use that image. tongue

 

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Thrawn McEwok  13650 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 7:09am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
blackmyron posted:
Again, any "Padawan" references can be turned into "Knight" references.


Or they can be like Yoda's reference to Dooku in Attack of the Clones...? tongue

Perhaps Obi-Wan's just teasing Anakin?

blackmyron posted:
The problem is that the Jabiim story takes place over a considerable length of time, making it nearly impossible to fit without changing the story anyways.
At this point, I'm just going to let it ride until the end of the CWAS and stop trying to reconcile the two timelines. I guess I'll see what Chee works out in the end.


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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 9:25am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if GL suddenly announces the Clone Wars is now five years long. Or that all the top members of the Confederacy were rejected from the Jedi Order.

 

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DarthBoba  33060 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 9:53am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
blackmyron posted:
At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if GL suddenly announces the Clone Wars is now five years long. Or that all the top members of the Confederacy were rejected from the Jedi Order.



Honestly, tacking on an extra year or two wouldn't really change much; just Vader, Palpatine, and Obi-Wan's ages in the OT. Just keep the 19-year gap from ROTS to ANH and things'd work out fine.

 

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Game3525  1457 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 9:59am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed) - Date Edited: 8/9 10:00am (1 edits total) Edited By: Game3525
DarthBoba posted:
blackmyron posted:
At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if GL suddenly announces the Clone Wars is now five years long. Or that all the top members of the Confederacy were rejected from the Jedi Order.



Honestly, tacking on an extra year or two wouldn't really change much; just Vader, Palpatine, and Obi-Wan's ages in the OT. Just keep the 19-year gap from ROTS to ANH and things'd work out fine.


Yeah, and it would actually flow much better. For example, Obi-Wan would look his age. tongue

 

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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 10:05am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
I think you've found the secret to canon, DarthBoba... anticipate the changes and have the retcons ready! laugh
Bring it on, GL.

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Okay, GL would stump me there... tongue

 

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ThrawnRocks  14867 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 10:21am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
I don't think we need to go so far as to extend the length of the Clone Wars yet. If we move Jedi Trial and one or two other stories earlier in the timeline and ignore TCW material timeline references there is an entire year in the middle of the Clone Wars that is already empty for Anakin and Obi-Wan. So far there has been nothing to suggest that the series has covered more than a year in the timeline. On the contrary, it probably takes a few weeks at most. Also it would place the adoption of Venators more naturally in the middle of the war and not to far away from the shift to Phase II armor, which not only makes some sense, but also is more or less in line with what was already there.

 

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DarthBoba  33060 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9 10:23am Subject: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
And drop Anakin's age in TPM from what, 10 to 8, so we can keep GL's seeming fascination with the number 23. tongue

Anakin: 23 years old in ROTS; spent 23 years as a Jedi, and 23 as a Sith Lord (died at 46)

Luke: 23 years old in ROTJ.

 

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