Author Topic: Clone Wars Ongoing Continuity Discussion (spoilers allowed)
ATimson 
Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 5/14 8:42am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
Thrawn McEwok posted:
Does anyone hate Nom Anor? Nen Yim? Kunra? tongue

Shedao Shai? Tsvong Lah? Nas Choka?

Harrar? Elan? Deign Lian?

Vua Rapuung? Riina? Mezhan Kwaad?

Excepting Kunra, Choka, and Lian, whose names aren't familiar, I can't say I'm fond of any of them.

Of course, that's hatred based on their actions, not concepts; they work great in the books as villains. I just wouldn't want to see my sisters sleeping with any of them. tongue

 

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Registered: Oct '05
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Date Posted: 5/14 8:50am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
BobaMatt posted:
Methinks if the novels themselves were better received, we wouldn't hate the Vong.

Eh... I hated the Vong until I read the NJO books.

So go figure.

 

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Jedimarine 
Registered: Feb '01
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Date Posted: 5/14 8:51am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
I am indifferent to the Vong.

I think the "extra-galactic" notion was a little cheesy.

I dislike how they were "unstoppable" in VP, but instead of increasing our heroes, they ate away at the Vong characteristics they had established.

I dislike that they created a completely "unsympathetic" group...and then turned around and gave them sympathies.

But the species, their background (other then trans-galactic notions), their cultural hierarchy and customs...I was ok with.

 

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JMM 
Registered: Jul '98
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Date Posted: 5/14 9:40am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
I don't know what will happen with all this, considering I haven't seen any of this series. I'd rather wait until I actually know the stories in this cartoon.

 

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sabarte 
Registered: Sep '05
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Date Posted: 5/14 10:36am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything? - Date Edited: 5/14 10:39am (2 edits total) Edited By: sabarte
Thrawn McEwok posted:
I don't think "people hate the Vong", as a general rule.


False grin

They're tacky.

 

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Jedimarine 
Registered: Feb '01
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Date Posted: 5/14 10:42am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
I thought they were spiky? laugh

 

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LtNOWIS 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 5/14 10:52am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
ATimson posted:

The movies are all of six hours of content; the TV show only needs to go 16 episodes to match that, meaning that even one full season of the show* will have more screentime--and thus introduce more content for the books to hew to--than the prequels combined.


It's not really a fair comparison. The Clone Wars TV show will cover at most a year of time, in-universe. They're going to spend all of it fighting a war that's already bookended by 2 movies. It's not the same as the 13 year period of space the prequels covered, and it doesn't have huge new revelations about the Jedi, the Republic, the Clone Wars, and major characters like the prequels did.

Heck, in the time between Episodes I and II came out, we had Jedi with multiple wives and red & yellow lightsabers fighting alongside a standing Republic military.

 

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Ulicus 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 5/14 11:19am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything? - Date Edited: 5/14 12:34pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Ulicus
I've now seen the trailer, in HD, 16 times and counting. worried

I am really rather stoked for Heroic!Anakin.

Edit: 17.

Edit 2: 18. plain

I WANT THIS MORE THAN BREAD!

 

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vong333 
Registered: Oct '03
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Date Posted: 5/14 11:40am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
I believe that the Clone Wars will be the best era of the entire Star Wars Universe. Expanded Universe or not. It already has coverage in two movies, a micro-cartoon series, alot of comic books, novels, junior adult novels, video games, topps cards, toys and short stories. Thas just the first phase of things.

The second phase of this is just going to be gargantum. You have for starters a movie, the 22 Episodes at 22 minutes each for the first season. Just that alone, and you have almost the same amount of movie time for the prequels. Then you have all those books, comci books, a video game, toys, topps trading cards, and even role playing stuff. You also hav coverage in the official main star wars site, plus they got stuff on Disney Weekend on the month of June. Now what era has ever had that kind of coverage? Or will have it? For now, none, just the clone wars.

And if this movie and first season is very succesful......You can bet that more books, comic books, and video games will come out. Adding even more


 

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sabarte 
Registered: Sep '05
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Date Posted: 5/15 8:00am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
it occurs to me that moving Dark Rendezvous would mess up Whie's timeline, though. But that's fairly minor.

 

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BobaMatt 
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Registered: Aug '02
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Date Posted: 5/15 8:06am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
It doesn't mess it up, too much. It's just...he's older, when he's killed.

 

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Rilwen_Shadowflame 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 5/16 12:33am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
I'm very much irritated by the show messing with the EU.

Wiping Jedi Trial stinks if it happens completely. I like that book. I don't want to lose it, or any of the others, just because Lucas and co are playing stupid games with continuity.

Jaedus was bad. This is even worse.

I'm very close to deciding 'stop this fandom, I want to get off'.



Unless I invoke DisContinuity, as I did for the Legacy of the Force novels. Mentally declaring that they didn't happen, don't count, and ought to be forgotten as quickly as possible.

...If this little money-spinner show messes things up too far, I'm going back to Lord of the Rings, where the canon stays still when you look at it, and the books come first. frustrated

 

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TalonCard 
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Registered: Jan '01
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Date Posted: 5/16 1:45am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
Rilwen_Shadowflame posted:
Unless I invoke DisContinuity, as I did for the Legacy of the Force novels. Mentally declaring that they didn't happen, don't count, and ought to be forgotten as quickly as possible.

...If this little money-spinner show messes things up too far, I'm going back to Lord of the Rings, where the canon stays still when you look at it, and the books come first. frustrated


Waaait a second...so it's ok to decide that certain books don't count, as long as you're not George Lucas? tongue Relax; this isn't any worse than what the EU has already been through. So either Jedi Trial is shifted closer to the beginning of the war, or Anakin gets promoted to Jedi Knight twice. It's no big deal. The last of the old Goodwin newspaper strips used to show Luke being promoted to Commander and used to take place over the course of three years, leading into TESB. Now most of those same strips have been shifted all the way back into the six months after Yavin. Luke was promoted to Commander again in the ESB radio drama, so his earlier promotion had to be retconned. Doesn't mean that Classic Star Wars never happened. It's the same deal here.

And didn't Tolkien himself go back and re-write continuity by changing part of The Hobbit to fit the story he wanted to tell in Lord of the Rings? These things happen all the time.

TC

 

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QuentinGeorge 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 5/16 3:11am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
Tolkien only stopped retconning his work because he died!

Had he lived a few more years, "orcs were once elves" would have been retconned as well.

 

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Rilwen_Shadowflame 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 5/16 8:38am Subject: RE: Continuity implosion in progress: Will 'The Clone Wars' change everything?
It also messes with my favourite Clone Wars novel, Dark Rendezvous, with that Sith Ventress thing.
DisContinuity is different. It's not like the creator saying, "You know what? I don't care if the fans liked that, it no longer counts."
It's the fans going "Ok, that was stupid, and as such we're going to personally say it never happened." It's on the personal level, not the official one.

QuentinGeorge: Yeah, but now he's dead, and the retcons have stopped. That's the important bit. If it's been shuffled before I get to it, fine, but if it's presented one way to get fond of, then changed, I don't like that.

 

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