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UltimateMandalore  454 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 2:06pm Subject: Orbital Bombardment
Why isn't Orbital Bombardment used more often? The Sith in Legacy could have used it on Ossus. And the GA or Roan Fel's forces could use it to wipe out the Sith Academy on Korriban.

 

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Trip  2356 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 2:10pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
It's usually prevented by planetary or theater shields... or random acts of plot.

 

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Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 2:11pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
UltimateMandalore posted:
Why isn't Orbital Bombardment used more often? The Sith in Legacy could have used it on Ossus. And the GA or Roan Fel's forces could use it to wipe out the Sith Academy on Korriban.


Sort of like why don't Soviets invade America.

The Fleet.

In Star Wars, it's Fleets and Shields.

 

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Jedi Ben  9345 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 2:19pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
You may as well ask why the NR didn't do more of it in the war with the Vong, why they didn't use hyperspace capable slaved missiles to bomb worlds from afar so destroying Vong infrastructure and military capability. Oh wait, it was because hurting the enemy was deemed morally wrong.

 

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rumsmuggler  18280 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 2:55pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
The powers during that be begged R2 if they could copy(for a price) some superweapons plans(A few galaxy guns would have made short work of the Vong war, and pose a threat to any other folks that beef with the G-gun owners.) He didn't want the war to be easy, or for anyone other than him to possess that powers, he so decided not to sell them. R2 don't need the cash anyways, since he started playing the intergalactic stockmarket and set up some nice accounts for himself, 3-PO, the Skywalker-Solo clan, Chewie's family and for a few other select clients and organizations.

That didn't really happen, but it would have funny if it did.

 

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BobaMatt  14519 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 7:35pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
Because it usually does more damage than is necessary/desirable, so it's only something bad guys do.

 

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DarthGeist  275 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 7:40pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
BobaMatt posted:
Because it usually does more damage than is necessary/desirable, so it's only something bad guys do.


lol! I think that's more reason why the Sith should do it!

That said, didn't the Sith in Legacy bombard the temple on Ossus after the fact (like, what, 11 years after the fact or something?)

And don't forget one of the WORST bombardments: Kashyyk (sp?) by Jacen.

 

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UltimateMandalore  454 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 7:50pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
The Worst Bombardment was Malak with Taris.

 

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Trip  2356 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 11:49pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
Eh... in terms of bodycount, Humbarine is probably the worst we know of.

Jacen's bombardment of Kashyyyk was pretty minor, really. I mean... he set trees on fire. ISDs are capable of far worse.

 

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rumsmuggler  18280 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/08 11:52pm Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
True, but Jacen was partially raised by a wookiee, so it was a twisted attack from the get go.

 

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Sinrebirth  18925 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/08 12:28am Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
Jedi Ben posted:
You may as well ask why the NR didn't do more of it in the war with the Vong, why they didn't use hyperspace capable slaved missiles to bomb worlds from afar so destroying Vong infrastructure and military capability. Oh wait, it was because hurting the enemy was deemed morally wrong.


Didn't Wedge use it, once, true, bu Kre'frey generally post-Borsk? I have little doubt it became standard fare for the GA, considering it's effectiveness.

 

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Reecee  619 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/08 12:35am Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
In Destiny's Way prior to Ebaq the NR were bombarding the Vong plenty, eg at Duro, Nar Shardaa. I remember Kre'fey addressed Jaina's reservations about it.

 

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Jedimarine  4888 posts
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Date Posted: 5/27/08 6:12am Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
There is also a difference between precision bombing and a "carpeting" of a planet.

honestly...I think it's the same reason the use of nukes in our world is reserved...even small ones...it's just not feasible...the lives of a couple grunts don't add up to the cost of the bombardment...both in the use of ordinance, the collateral damage on the ground, and the political and media hit you could take for it.

Play "Rebellion" and do "general bombardment"...the whole sector won't like you if you keep it up for too long.

 

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Sabrajaguar  1638 posts
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Date Posted: 5/27/08 7:00am Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
Jedi Ben posted:
You may as well ask why the NR didn't do more of it in the war with the Vong, why they didn't use hyperspace capable slaved missiles to bomb worlds from afar so destroying Vong infrastructure and military capability. Oh wait, it was because hurting the enemy was deemed morally wrong.


Because they would be blowing up their own planets? that still had their civilans traped on them?

See the YV destryed worlds because basicly it wasnt their worlds to begin with. They were just squating therirfor supplys or a brake.

If you blew Up the Dovin Bassal farmon Tynnia. You are blowing up large chunks of Tynna(or whatever you call the Beaverpeople planet)

Thats why.

 

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Jedi_Master_Luc  346 posts
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Date Posted: 5/27/08 10:08am Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
I still find the idea of a planetary shield to be a little silly, but then again i think it's silly that an X-wing can bank in vaccuum!

If the Sith had shown up on Ossus and just started firing away with their long range turbolasers (they've GOT to be standard issue by now) Legacy wouldn't be happening because Kol, Cade, and all their buddies would be dead. It's a literary device. "Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should." that's a quote (by whom i don't know. maybe me!) that i live, and write by. Most novels, comics and films present numerous occasions where a quick action would stop the remaining pages or minutes in the movie from happening.

Example: If Han hadn't come back and taken out Vader's escort, the reality of the situation (a relatively green pilot facing off against one of the greatest pilots in the galaxy and his wingmen) would have dictated a much different ending.

Additionally, because morals are something that get wrestled with often in the EU and on these boards, the good-guys will often wait until they have no other option or until all the innocents can be cleared before attacking in such a manner. Though there are a number of examples where a bad-guy could have done it but that would have gotten the job done and audiences like an inept bad-guy for some reason.

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Jedi Ben  9345 posts
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Date Posted: 5/27/08 11:10am Subject: RE: Orbital Bombardment
Sabrajaguar posted:


Because they would be blowing up their own planets? that still had their civilans traped on them?

See the YV destryed worlds because basicly it wasnt their worlds to begin with. They were just squating therirfor supplys or a brake.

If you blew Up the Dovin Bassal farmon Tynnia. You are blowing up large chunks of Tynna(or whatever you call the Beaverpeople planet)

Thats why.


And that's sometimes what war, total war, with your back against a wall and an enemy coming to tear your throat out, requires.

For your information though: It's possible to survive a BDZ, it happens on Jabiim in Empire. Also, the planet will recover, nature tends to be a tough bastard.

The fact is DR sold NJO as being a realistic war and then, when faced with what war actually entails, seemed to do an about turn.

There's a reason utliitarianism is a philosophy suited to war: It very coldly sets lives against benefit, if a benefit warrants the lives being extinguished, the action is morally right, in this case: A planet converted to Vong shipyard and villip production and all of the impact on the war effort versus the death of the civilian slaves living in pain who they cannot rescue.

You ain't supposed to like this stuff, you're supposed to be horrified by it because war is not a nice option.

 

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