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What will fix SW after Legacy
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Darthbane2007
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6/30 11:12am
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I think that a gradual slowdown on galactic crisises can wait until te few years before Legacy starts up.
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Rouge77
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6/30 11:54am
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I don't at the moment feel like that the many of the current problems in SW can be fixed. I mean the Clone Wars cartoon effects on the CW chronology and the mess which DR has made out of the novels with it's eager character-killing.
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marmkid
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i think a big way to prevent the "big 3" from being the focus of the entire galaxy is to just have single books or at most trilogies
we dont need any huge story arcs spanning from LOTF to the Legacy comics
but there can still be adventures involving the "big 3", which i think it sounds like Millenium Falcon might be
its not that the entire galaxy hinges on what Luke is doing
but he doesnt need to go sit in the retirement village and die instantly
this might also help "re-introduce" some forgotten charactors in a way also
Luke can continue Ben's training, and maybe go on a mission with Kyle or something
it doesnt need to be galaxy spanning, and honestly, anything else huge would seem crammed in between LOTF and Legacy
but i dont want them to "retire" the big 3, and i dont think they need to
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kecen
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6/30 7:14pm
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I would like to see Star Wars novels that stand alone for having good storylines, instead of relying on well-known characters as a cheap selling point. Make more Traitors and Cestus Deceptions (even if they do star Jedi) and stop trying to reverse/cover up what they teach. I'm one of the few Yuuzhan Vong fans because I WASN'T into the OT when I was introduced to them, and see them as a seperate "fandom". Therefore my opinion of Del Rey/SW novels is different :P
I am COMPLETELY against a reboot, because that would mean my beloved pet species (ahem) would be obliterated. But that would be an excuse to write weird as hell Yuuzhan Vong with extensive histories, languages, and families (a lot of cousins...) without any regard to continuity because then I would be free to do what I want without having to depend on the SW universe. Then I'd call them something else. Pull a Karen Traviss.
Yes, I'd like to see more tales set far apart from the main storyline involving the Solo/Skywalker Dynasty (ahem) that authors normally not associated with Star Wars (say one of those children's fantasy authors with very clever writing styles who can appeal to older audiences like Neil Gaiman) would be able to write them and entertain even Star Wars haters. I like the Ewoks animated series for being off the beaten road, even if it's weird as hell compared to anything else. I mean, there's millions of habitable worlds in the galaxy and many of them only gets a couple pages per book (not including Coruscant and the other major ones, although the issue of writing non-Jedi characers in regular settings comes to mind).
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Volderon
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I think this is what will fix legacy...
1) Do not have any more series for a little while. Develop some new Jedi Knight characters...there's what a few hundred Jedi running around, odds are is that one of them is very strong in the force.
2) Make Star Wars happy again. I think that this was lost after Star By Star, and maybe partially our fault. SBS is perhaps one of the, if not the best EU novel of all time and the reason it worked so well was because it was dark and had commando Jedi operations... I mean how cool is that, I'd love to see something like that again. But I beleive that since it did so well, the authors said "Well it worked once, let's make it work again." So they killed off Anakin and Jacen, and so we will never have the two fight side by side like they did in the three early novels of the NJO. They certainly handicapped themselves by killing the Solo men, because if they didn't, Luke could retire and all would be well.
3)The Jedi need to get back to being diplomats just like in the Old Republic. When I was 10-13, I read Jude Watson's Jedi Apprentice series, and it was awesome, just planetary disruptions that needed mediating. THAT is what should be the focus of the next books. Think of it, we could have Luke and Ben in one book, and then a Master and Padawan team in the next book.
4) There needs to be some kind of trick, some kind of spin on each novel, it needs to get the readers thinking. That was what was lacking in LOTF, there was no spin, no trick, just straightforward battling and sith stuff. I would have been happy if something happened like (just an example) that Jacen didn't really die and he was on a distant planet projecting his force presence fighting Jaina. Whatever, it dosn't matter what, just there needs to be some surprise.
Ayways, it's all my opinion so whatever. I personally love reading star wars books and always will no matter what.
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kecen
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Volderon posted:
3)The Jedi need to get back to being diplomats just like in the Old Republic. When I was 10-13, I read Jude Watson's Jedi Apprentice series, and it was awesome, just planetary disruptions that needed mediating. THAT is what should be the focus of the next books. Think of it, we could have Luke and Ben in one book, and then a Master and Padawan team in the next book.
4) There needs to be some kind of trick, some kind of spin on each novel, it needs to get the readers thinking. That was what was lacking in LOTF, there was no spin, no trick, just straightforward battling and sith stuff. I would have been happy if something happened like (just an example) that Jacen didn't really die and he was on a distant planet projecting his force presence fighting Jaina. Whatever, it dosn't matter what, just there needs to be some surprise.
Ayways, it's all my opinion so whatever. I personally love reading star wars books and always will no matter what.
Agreed, I liked reading the one Apprentice book I read. I got into the EU through Jedi Starfighter (slightly in the diplomatic mood). Cestus Deception had the Dashta eels and hippie bugs.
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Rouge77
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Volderon posted:
2) Make Star Wars happy again. I think that this was lost after Star By Star, and maybe partially our fault. SBS is perhaps one of the, if not the best EU novel of all time and the reason it worked so well was because it was dark and had commando Jedi operations... I mean how cool is that, I'd love to see something like that again. But I beleive that since it did so well, the authors said "Well it worked once, let's make it work again." So they killed off Anakin and Jacen, and so we will never have the two fight side by side like they did in the three early novels of the NJO. They certainly handicapped themselves by killing the Solo men, because if they didn't, Luke could retire and all would be well.
3)The Jedi need to get back to being diplomats just like in the Old Republic. When I was 10-13, I read Jude Watson's Jedi Apprentice series, and it was awesome, just planetary disruptions that needed mediating. THAT is what should be the focus of the next books. Think of it, we could have Luke and Ben in one book, and then a Master and Padawan team in the next book.
QFT!  I totally agree to both of these. 
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goraq
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Give us honest and trusted politicians. 
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Darthbane2007
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Give us honest and trusted politicians.
You know that's an Oxymoron, right?
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goraq
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,, You know that's an Oxymoron, right?,,
In Sw not necessarily.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elegos_A%27Kla
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bail_Organa
I dont think that the Senate should be filled with Bail Organas,but just give us enough to maintain peace until Legacy comics.
A couple of shady deals can happen,but i want a senate wich is definetly less corupt then the one
in the time of the clone wars.
If the people feel that the senate is completly out of touch with them they might join the Fel Empire.
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T-boy-wan
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7/11 6:58am
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Cal Omas was honest until his character changed for plot purposes.
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marmkid
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7/11 7:16am
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T-boy-wan posted:
Cal Omas was honest until his character changed for plot purposes.
i always thought that was an odd plot change
i dont get why they didnt just make someone else Chief of State and have him be corrupt
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GoA
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7/11 10:50pm
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marmkid posted:
T-boy-wan posted:
Cal Omas was honest until his character changed for plot purposes.
i always thought that was an odd plot change
i dont get why they didnt just make someone else Chief of State and have him be corrupt
Too much effort. Much easier to just alter an existing character's characterization.
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7/11 11:00pm
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GoA posted:
marmkid posted:
T-boy-wan posted:
Cal Omas was honest until his character changed for plot purposes.
i always thought that was an odd plot change
i dont get why they didnt just make someone else Chief of State and have him be corrupt
Too much effort. Much easier to just alter an existing character's characterization.
What changed? Cal was nice until Luke and he disagreed, and then a gap formed between them. That gap swung back and forth dependent on how things were going. A perfectly logical relationship and characterisation.
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TuskenTommy
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I re-read some books in the series but from a Jacen FAN point of view & could relate to somethings..Alot of things. Made me respect him & his cause a lil more. Give er a try..NOt saying it will fix anything, but it does offer betetr insight.. If anything, try Inferno,EMbrace o pain w/ Ben & then duel with Son o' Sons etc. This series was really good. IMO of course.. Maybe had we not had the Mando stuff and had a Greg Keyes perspective or maybe we did need a Stover type POV on Jacens uber perception of the force post 5 year journey.. Maybe that 5 year journey book shoulda vame out 1st written by Stover.. Ot Luceno at the least.. But i like his view on Vergere's view of teh force being just there & the user decides etc.. Funny how didnt exactly go that way for Cadeus. eh?
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