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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 5/1 12:01am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	The meaning of the vision isn't entirely clear yet. It's probably not Vader. The seers see a figure in the environment suit striking them down, and they believe that it's a Sith. They saw the suit as being symbolic of their Padawans, who would soon be wearing the suit. And Zayne, as one of their Padawans, has arguably led to the Covenant's death and destruction and brought about the rise of the Sith by saving Alek. We've also seen Jarael wear the suit, and she may have some kind of link with the Sith. We've also seen Alek wear the suit, and he obviously becomes the Sith Lord Darth Malak, leading to the most direct link between the Sith and the suited figure. I think Gryph has been inside the suit at some point too, and he's played a very significant role in destroying the Covenant. JJM's very good at layering this sort of stuff and giving you multiple possibilities. Some people have speculated that Zayne is a Skywalker ancestor. This has absolutely no empirical grounds (other than the fact that, if Zayne has kids and they have kids, 4000 years later, there are going to be a lot of people descended from him, and his genes aren't going to mean a heck of a lot) and is just idle speculation of the "Oooh, this would be cool" variety. Cassus Fett is obviously intended to be a Jango Fett ancestor, at least as of his introduction in background material for the game -- just a little tie-in name-drop. However, I don't believe he's ever been actually established as Jango's ancestor -- it could be that he's just Jango's very-great grand-uncle, or fourth cousin a hundred times removed, or no relation at all. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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Cash_Fendar Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 5/1 2:06am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here! - Date Edited: 5/1 2:10am (1 edits total) Edited By: Cash_Fendar
	Liliedhe posted: Did you ever play the KOTOR computer games? Because the character in the suit the Covenant saw is one of the villains there... He dons the suit for a scene in the second TPB. Unfortunately, no I have not played the games. I heard they are pretty cool, but I have a PS3 . The KOTOR games should expand their horizons and make a version for my console!! . I guess I could always play on the computer, but I'm just not that into PC gaming. Thanks for the info though, you too Havac. -----signature----- "Tracy my cap is luke." "Luke warm Chris?" "No f@#kin Luke Skywalker you inbred!" -The Kids in the Hall:Brain Candy-
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popeyesfriedchicken Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 5/2 9:03pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	this is all anyone will ever need... plus the newer books already have a timeline in them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_books
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skaarason Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 5/4 9:58pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here! - Date Edited: 5/4 10:11pm (2 edits total) Edited By: skaarason
	i know about the novels but is there any comics about the solo kids , or ben skywalker , i know there is a little bit of them in star wars tales like the lost light saber story but that's the only one i know !!! but not to sure if they are stuck to the novels ? did there characters ever branch out like did they have any mini's or solo's (no pun !) i heard about this new comic star wars invasion ! , it takes place The Yuuzhan Vong War ! i hope they show up in this new series !!!! thanks guys !!!
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Manisphere Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 5/5 5:34pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	skaarason posted: i know about the novels but is there any comics about the solo kids , or ben skywalker , i know there is a little bit of them in star wars tales like the lost light saber story but that's the only one i know !!! but not to sure if they are stuck to the novels ? did there characters ever branch out like did they have any mini's or solo's (no pun !) i heard about this new comic star wars invasion ! , it takes place The Yuuzhan Vong War ! i hope they show up in this new series !!!! thanks guys !!! Honestly, Invasion is your best bet in finding any comics with the Solo kids. We've all been clamoring to see what many NJO-FOTJ characters look like outside of novel covers. It might be a while before we have Ben in a comic. He was born during the Vong war. We might get baby pictures though. I think Dark Empire II and Empire's End from the mid-nineties has a couple of flashes of the Solo kids as toddlers or something but it was so fleeting I remember next to nothing. -----signature----- "Head of State, a Sith is just a Jedi who's gone off his meds."-Natasi Daala
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johnboy3441 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 5/8 4:13pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	I have decided to actually read some of the EU myself (my only other exposure being the cartoons, Ewok movies, and Holiday Special), and wanted to start with the adult-level novels. Most of the people I talked to suggested starting with the Thrawn trilogy, but I was thinking of something more systematic, like chronological order. I was thinking about reading the books in the following order (broken up by era; those in stars are film adaptations that I won't be reading): Path of Destruction Rule of Two Cloak of Deception Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter The Phantom Menace Rogue Planet Outbound Flight The Approaching Storm Attack of the Clones Hard Contact Shatterpoint The Cestus Deception Triple Zero True Colors Battle Surgeons Jedi Healer Jedi Trial Dark Rendezvous The Clone Wars Wild Space No Prisoners Labyrinth of Evil Revenge of the Sith Order 66 Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader Jedi Twilight Street of Shadows Patterns of Force The Paradise Snare Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka The Hutt Gambit The Force Unleashed Han Solo at Stars' End Han Solo's Revenge Han Solo and the Lost Legacy Rebel Dawn Death Star A New Hope Allegiance Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine Splinter of the Mind's Eye The Empire Strikes Back Shadows of the Empire Return of the Jedi Truce at Bakura The Mandalorian Armor Slave Ship Hard Merchandise Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor Rogue Squadron Wedge's Gamble The Krytos Trap The Bacta War Wraith Squadron Iron Fist Solo Command The Courtship of Princess Leia Tatooine Ghost Heir to the Empire Dark Force Rising The Last Command Isard's Revenge Jedi Search Dark Apprentice Champions of the Force I, Jedi Children of the Jedi Darksaber Planet of Twilight Starfighters of Adumar The Crystal Star Before the Storm Shield of Lies Tyrant's Test The New Rebellion Ambush at Corellia Assault at Selonia Showdown at Centerpoint Specter of the Past Vision of the Future Survivor's Quest Vector Prime Onslaught Ruin Hero's Trial Jedi Eclipse Balance Point Conquest Rebirth Star by Star Dark Journey Rebel Dream Rebel Stand Traitor Destiny's Way Remnant Refugee Reunion The Final Prophecy The Unifying Force The Joiner King The Unseen Queen The Swarm War Betrayal Bloodlines Tempest Exile Sacrifice Inferno Fury Revelation Invincible Millenium Falcon Outcast Omen Does this sound like a good idea or not? I realize that some books will be released during the course of my read-through, but I'll pick those up after I'm done.
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 5/8 7:55pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	The thing about chronological order is that you miss a lot of context by doing it that way; you can be left wondering where concepts are coming from, or what becomes of these guys, or who the heck this guy is and why he's so important. I wouldn't expect it to be a smooth reading experience. You can certainly do it, but I'd really recommend starting in a manner that's a little less ambitious, but will give you better context. Starting with the Thrawn Trilogy, the Bantam standbys, and expanding out from there. Still, chronological order isn't bad, and if you really want to it won't hurt you much. The only thing is that I would never, ever, wish Path of Destruction on anyone as their first Star Wars novel. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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Rew Registered: Dec '08	Date Posted: 5/8 8:12pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	The Solo kids are also in a flashback in the Chewbacca comic. Havac posted: The thing about chronological order is that you miss a lot of context by doing it that way; you can be left wondering where concepts are coming from, or what becomes of these guys, or who the heck this guy is and why he's so important. I wouldn't expect it to be a smooth reading experience. You can certainly do it, but I'd really recommend starting in a manner that's a little less ambitious, but will give you better context. Starting with the Thrawn Trilogy, the Bantam standbys, and expanding out from there. Still, chronological order isn't bad, and if you really want to it won't hurt you much. The only thing is that I would never, ever, wish Path of Destruction on anyone as their first Star Wars novel. Agreed. I've long been a fan of going in publication date order. I'm on an EU marathon myself, started with the OT novelizations, then the classic SotE and the Han Solo and Lando Calrissian Adventure trilogies, and now I'm trudging through the Bantam novels. Almost done, though--I'm on X-Wing, and the only thing after that are the Tales anthologies. Also, another problem with going in chronological order is that you could reach, say, the post-RotJ era, but whoops! Del Rey releases a new book in the Clone Wars era, so you have to backtrack. Not an issue if you're going in publication order. -----signature----- Currently reading: Dark Nest I - The Joiner King.
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Liliedhe Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 5/9 2:53am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	I did read the novels more or less chronologically (except for the Darth Bane stuff, which I didn't read at all), and it was ok. Sure, you miss hints, but since you don't know you miss them, it isn't a problem. And it's kind of fun to suddenly discover that officer No. 27 who was doing a forgettable cameo somewhere suddenly becomes an important warlord or whatever. -----signature----- Joint Winner - PT Trivia Challenge 18+New Edition
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StateOfLoveAndTrust Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 5/10 3:15am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	I was looking through the old Lostworlds thread and there's a short story mentioned called The Art of Infiltration that was supposed to be in AJ #17 and was later included in Gamer #9, but I don't recall seeing it and I don't have my issues with me. Can anyone confirm if the story is in there? -----signature----- "Like fire boobs?"
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 5/10 10:35am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	Chronological order isn't a bad way to go- there are certain benefits to having things being setup for payoff later, instead of knowing events and seeing how they came to fruition. Both ways have merit. The only trick with chronological order is it, depending on your view, takes a bit longer to get to the "meat" of things. Also, as an aside, regardless if do chronological order or not: johnboy3441 posted: those in stars are film adaptations that I won't be reading): ... Revenge of the Sith Do yourself a favor and be sure not to skip that one- it's one of, if not the best, SW novel out there. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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johnboy3441 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 5/14 11:12am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	Okay, I changed my mind about my reading order. I'm going with order of publication. I'll start as soon as my eyes heal (just got Lasik yesterday and can't see much). Here's my order: A New Hope Splinter of the Mind's Eye Han Solo at Stars' End Han Solo's Revenge The Empire Strikes Back Han Solo and the Lost Legacy Return of the Jedi Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka Heir to the Empire Dark Force Rising The Last Command The Truce at Bakura Jedi Search The Courtship of Princess Leia Dark Apprentice Champions of the Force The Crystal Star Alien Exodus Ambush at Corellia Children of the Jedi Assault at Selonia Showdown at Centerpoint Darksaber Rogue Squadron Before the Storm Shadows of the Empire Wedge's Gamble Shield of Lies The Krytos Trap The New Rebellion Tyrant's Test The Bacta War Planet of Twilight The Paradise Snare The Hutt Gambit Specter of the Past Wraith Squadron Rebel Dawn I, Jedi The Mandalorian Armor Iron Fist Vision of the Future Slave Ship Solo Command Isard's Revenge The Phantom Menace Hard Merchandise Starfighters of Adumar Vector Prime Onslaught Rogue Planet Ruin Hero's Trial Jedi Eclipse Balance Point Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter Conquest Cloak of Deception Rebirth Star by Star The Approaching Storm Dark Journey Rebel Dream Attack of the Clones Rebel Stand Traitor Destiny's Way Remnant Tatooine Ghost Refugee Shatterpoint Reunion The Final Prophecy The Unifying Force Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine Survivor's Quest The Cestus Deception Battle Surgeons Jedi Healer Hard Contact Jedi Trial Yoda: Dark Rendezvous Labyrinth of Evil Revenge of the Sith The Joiner King The Unseen Queen Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader The Swarm War Outbound Flight Triple Zero Betrayal Bloodlines Path of Destruction Tempest Allegiance Exile Sacrifice Inferno Death Star True Colors Fury Rule of Two Revelation Invincible Jedi Twilight The Clone Wars The Force Unleashed Street of Shadows Order 66 Millenium Falcon Wild Space Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor Patterns of Force Outcast No Prisoners Omen Abyss 501st Death Troopers Blood Oath Yeah. This is going to take awhile.
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Xicer Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 5/14 11:43am Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	Er, Alien Exodus was canceled a looong time ago. And you don't have to read everything exactly in publication order. It's probably best to put all the books from a specific trilogy or series together. And the way the books in the Bantam line were released were a bit strange chronologically. All we're really saying is to read the Thrawn Trilogy first just to get a feel for the EU. The Han Solo Adventures books, while great, don't give you a good introduction to the rest of the EU. And also, don't feel obligated to read every book. Your wallet isn't gonna be happy, and not every book is a good read. Just start with the Thrawn Trilogy and then take some recommendations from the first page of this thread and work your way from there. -----signature----- "Just before your arrival, Moneo and I were discussing Infinity." "Poor Moneo." --Leto II and Malky, "God Emperor of Dune"
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johnboy3441 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 5/14 12:19pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here! - Date Edited: 5/14 12:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: johnboy3441
	I know Alien Exodus was canceled, but the two chapters that were written and the outline for the rest have been posted online, so I figured, "Why not?" EDIT: And don't worry. Money won't be an issue.
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Cash_Fendar Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 5/19 4:25pm Subject: New to the EU? What to Read? Where to Start? What's That Mean? Your Questions, Answered Here!
	Okay, totally random and unrelated questions, but what does GFFA stand for? I've seen it everywhere but have no clue what it means. Secondly, I'm reading the Crispin novels right now. I'm on the second one, but I have heard that there's another Han Solo Trilogy that takes place in between the books I'm reading? -----signature----- "Tracy my cap is luke." "Luke warm Chris?" "No f@#kin Luke Skywalker you inbred!" -The Kids in the Hall:Brain Candy-
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