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HedecGa
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Stuart Zissu?!
Holy crud--this thread (a great idea, by the way) has already served its purpose!! I checked out Stuart on the Wook because I'd never heard of him and, lo! I actually saw book two of that series at the local library when I took my daughter to Story Hour! Who knew? I might go check out that book and learn a wee bit about ole Stuart.
On a sidenote, this is one more reason why you've gotta love the EU. There's always something new to learn.
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Havac
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General Brenn Tantor is, thanks to the power of video games' obsession with replaying everything, the most important general you've never heard of. Appearing only in Force Commander, Tantor was a young stormtrooper who was promoted and trained as an officer. On his first training mission, he led the search for the Death Star plans on Tatooine, always a step behind Artoo. Quickly ascending in rank, he commanded one of the many raids on Yavin 4 after the Death Star's destruction, rescuing a crashed Colonel Veers. By Hoth, Tantor was a high-ranking general, and he gave Veers his orders on Hoth, commanding the battle from orbit. He then went on to scout Endor and determine the site for the shield bunker. On his next mission, he captured Luke Skywalker. Brashin then ordered him to massacre civilians, and he refused. Tantor defected to the Rebellion, freed Luke, and wound up aboard the Tyderium, serving as Han's commanding officer and overseeing the cleanup of Imperial forces afterwards. Then he went on to command the conquest of Coruscant. He's . . . just a little bit important, yet he shows up nowhere outside of Force Commander, a quick mention in Luke's entry in the NEGTC, and a quote about the AT-PT in the NEGTVV.
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HemDazon90
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the prophets of the darkside and iquisirors
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Battlehymn_Republic
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Darth Millennial and the anti-Bane, neo-Kaan(?) rival Sith order that eventually morphed into the Prophets of the Dark Side. Also, they had an actual religion, Dark Force. What was it all about? Could they have offered a rival order with a vision different from Bane's Rule of Two, Krayt's Rule of One, and Palpatine's Num Num Num I'm Eating Your Souls?
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Ars Dangor
Do you know who gave the order to suspend the Senate? Tarkin quoted his communique to Imperial officials almost verbatim in that meeting on the Death Star. Ah, yes, and Tarkin owes his title as well as his battle station to authorization from Ars Dangor.
He was the ideas man in the Empire. He gave the addresses, and was the only one who could stir up crowds nearly as well as the Emperor. He ran the Empire behind the scenes, concurrently with the far more well known Sate Pestage. His loyalty to the Emperor was greater, though--to the extent that he made himself look and dress like his master.
And, of course, he summed up the Empire in a single marvelous quotation: "We rule through might and fear—fear of the chaos that would ensue should the Imperial government falter. Who better than the most educated, well-trained, highly civilized élite to lead the lesser beings who know nothing about maintaining culture and organization?"
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Lord_Hydronium
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Coruscant and the Core Worlds is seriously awesome. In a few paragraphs, it drops a couple things very suited to this thread.
Petrax Historic Quarter
The site that Coruscant first began to grow upward. Yes, the site. Just north of Imperial City, the lower (and oldest) levels have been crushed to rubble, but are the site of archaeological digs that unearth all sorts of old relics. During the Vong occupation, a group of shopkeepers turn the lower levels into a base for a guerrilla force.
The Ice Crypts
The story of how the Zhell fought the Taung on ancient Coruscant, told in Dha Werda Verda, could probably fit the criteria for this thread itself. A long time ago, the thirteen nations of Zhell, a human race, fought a war against the non-human Taung, until a volcanic eruption almost made the Zhell extinct. The Taung took the name "Warriors of the Shadow" from the volcanic plume. Their victory wasn't long for the world, though, as the Zhell recovered and drove the Taung offworld. The Taung went on to become the Mandalorians, and the Zhell went on to claim Coruscant for themselves and become, essentially, the foundation of human civilization on that world.
So what's left of the Zhell? Apparently after they almost got wiped out by the volcano, they fled to the south of Coruscant, where they dug a network of tombs in the ice near the south pole. Then the thirteen leaders of the Zhell nations buried themselves inside, along with their possessions, only to be excavated thousands of years later and turned into a public archaeological site: the Ice Crypts.
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General Carvin was sent to Lusankya, end of Mandatory Retirement. Isard mentioned updating her clone too. I'd have liked to have seen the continuation of that great series. No full names either. Good days, they were.
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Excellence posted:
General Carvin was sent to Lusankya, end of Mandatory Retirement. Isard mentioned updating her clone too. I'd have liked to have seen the continuation of that great series. No full names either. Good days, they were.
Yes, that does rather limit his post MR appearances. But I'd just like to know what he was doing beforehand and just how he was able to get himself in such a position of power. Albeit a short-lived one.
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He's a generic, like Krennel. EU has seen tons of them. *shrugs*
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Although it has been mentioned many times, the Imperial Army is woefully underused, and "elite" storm troopers preform grunt roles on almost every backwater world there is...
Also, there is a general trend (not that I blame anyone) to use more iconic groups, ships, weapons etc over stuff that is supposedly more common.
On a related note, does anyone find strange that a group described as "rag tag" rely on the same four fighter? Where are the ethnic fighters like Mon Cal Fighters or th N-1? Where are the open market fighters like the Razor or the Corsair? Where are the uglies? *shrug*
But that is rather off topic, so:
 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Rivoche.JPG
Tarkin's niece and master rebel spy.
Gungan hand held shields-there isn't even a wiki article on them (that I can find). They don't just absorb blaster-they turn them back on the shooters. Yet, the only time I remember the technology being used was some Confederate troops using them to defend centerpoint in the first LOTF novel.
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QuinineVos
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Wow! Fascinating thread. I must humbly submit that the knowledge exhibited in this thread is far beyond my more average, mostly comic-based EU knowlege. Learn me! Learn me!  
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Lord_Hydronium posted:
The Ice Crypts
The story of how the Zhell fought the Taung on ancient Coruscant, told in Dha Werda Verda, could probably fit the criteria for this thread itself. A long time ago, the thirteen nations of Zhell, a human race, fought a war against the non-human Taung, until a volcanic eruption almost made the Zhell extinct. The Taung took the name "Warriors of the Shadow" from the volcanic plume. Their victory wasn't long for the world, though, as the Zhell recovered and drove the Taung offworld. The Taung went on to become the Mandalorians, and the Zhell went on to claim Coruscant for themselves and become, essentially, the foundation of human civilization on that world.
So what's left of the Zhell? Apparently after they almost got wiped out by the volcano, they fled to the south of Coruscant, where they dug a network of tombs in the ice near the south pole. Then the thirteen leaders of the Zhell nations buried themselves inside, along with their possessions, only to be excavated thousands of years later and turned into a public archaeological site: the Ice Crypts.
The Zhell/Taung conflict and the Mandalorians became about a million times more interesting when the Taung were retconned into being the Mandalorians. When combined with the retcon that moves the First Great Schism up to 7000 BBY, it effectively makes the Republic/Mando conflict the longest-running major conflict in galactic history, and puts a new spin on the emergence of the Empire. The conflict between the Zhell/Republic and the Taung/Mandos is one of the great recurring foundational conflicts of galactic civilization (on the level of Core vs the Tion and Jedi vs darksiders/Sith), and the Empire is sort of the hybrid offspring of the two, midwived by the Sith.
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Excellence posted:
He's a generic, like Krennel. EU has seen tons of them. *shrugs*
But Krennel was a prince!
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The Planetary Pioneers
So apparently these guys come into existence some time after ANH. Not long enough for Luke and Leia to have stopped crushing on one another (or to have changed their clothes, apparently), but long enough for the Rebel Alliance to open an academy for training pilots to transport colonists to uninhabited worlds. How do they find the time for this when there's a war on? Where is Han Solo? If the Rebellion can blow up moons with their zukonium rays, why didn't they ever employ this weapon against the Empire? So many unanswered questions!
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Mat Rags
The greatest hunter the galaxy has ever known. While the majority of what is known about him comes from the TPM game and Galaxies (which morphed his appearance but was true to his persona), there may actually be more behind the man than bravado. His hunting claim actually seems to hold some weight, judging by his reputation/trophies in Galaxies (if you hold any faith in Galaxies' canonicity). But even more intriguing, he seems to have a connection with the events of Quinlan Vos's early life: he is seen both in the movie and in one of the Republic comics conversing with Vos while the Jedi was on Tatooine. Interestingly, we never found out what Quin was doing on that particular mission.
Trihexalon
Think nitroglycerin, but worse. From Maramere, it was almost used by the Seps before the Clone Wars as a biological superweapon before Adi Gallia was sent off to kill the crazy fellow who was about to unleash it. But why haven't we heard about this since?
Bruck Chun
A schoolmate of Obi-Wan during his pre-Padawan days, he was almost chosen to be Qui-Gon's apprentice until Obi-Wan was able to pull off some stint to get Qui-Gon to choose him instead. Months later, when Obi-Wan forsake the Order and his Jedi badge was officially rescinded, Qui-Gon very nearly took Bruck on as his Padawan again. How different would things have been if Obi-Wan's fantastically convenient luck had not been there to save him? Bruck would have been a Jedi, and we would have no Darth Vader or Krayt.
Hoggon
He killed Ulic Qel-Droma, in perhaps one of the best moments of the TOTJ series. But while Luke will never stop bragging about how it took he and a whole slue of other Jedi to take down Exar in some epic battle, no one ever mentions how it took Hoggon one shot to do-in Ulic. Maybe it was that jolly hobbit look.
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