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Darth-Ghost
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6/26 1:41pm
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RE: With LOTF wrapped up, what directions do we go now?
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Well, this thread is about the overarching threads of the era, okay?
Anyways, here are some of the longstanding conflicts through the galaxy's history, anyone think any of these could reappear in the Legacy era?
1. Zhell/Taung (Galactic society vs. Mandalorians)
-I'm sure we'll see more of the Mandalorians and Boba Fett, there was a lot of foreshadowing throughout LOTF, and we know for whatever reason they don't seem to be a visible power during the comics.
2. Core/Rim (including the Hutts and Tionese, later the Separatists and Confederation)
-We know this plays a part in how the Sith-Imperial War plays out, and like I said I'm sure we'll be dealing with remnants and small resurgences of the Confederation throughout the era. Such as from the Corellians, Bothans, Commenori, Hutts, Corporate Sector, maybe the Wookies, Fondor, and Kuat.
3. Human/Alien (including the Star Dragons)
-The Empire seems to still be human-centric, even though progress was made under the Fels. Probably will be an underlying theme, but not sure if it will be brought to the forefront of the stories or not.
4. Coruscant/Alsakan (and other rival worlds)
-Maybe they'll try again, but I'm sure other worlds such as Corellia and Bothuwai will continue to oppose Coruscant's dominance in galactic politics, maybe other worlds like Eriadu, Empress Teta, and Denon will too. Similar to the Core/Rim conflicts, and also plays into the human/alien conflicts.
5. Jedi/Sith (and other Jedi schisms)
-Of course this continues, and we know there will be some scism probably that forms the Imperial Knights.
6. Sentient/Droid
-I'd like to see this, but I doubt it will happen, at least before the current Legacy comics.
7. Galactics/Yuuzhan Vong
-We know the lingering hatred and mistrust of the Vong plays a role in starting the Sith-Imperial War, reformation and reinegration of them into the galaxy probably starts before the Ossus Project, and I''m sure they'll play a role in defeating the Sith.
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Robimus
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6/26 2:05pm
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Star Wars is about . . .
Good vs. evil, the battle raging both within the galaxy and within each individual
How evil tries to confuse the good with the evil
Conquering our fear, being ready to accept change and let go of the things we are attached to
How sometimes the way to win a war is to not fight at all
The evils of discrimination and slavery
How authority should be questioned, freedom and justice fought for
Why we should be forgiving and merciful, and not kill out of revenge
How important our choices are and that we always have one
The importance of love
While I agree on some levels, on others I do not.  At no time in Star Wars do we ever see a war won without firing a shot, its more about standing up for what you believe in and being willing to fight to reach your goal.
The evils of discrimination and slavery are glossed over in most Star Wars fare. Qui-Gon didn't go to Tattooine to free slaves, and made no apparent action to help after he departed. Really the Galaxy/New Republic has always allowed the Hutt's free hand in their territories to do what they will. Really the only time the galaxy proper took an interest in salvery was when they were about to be enslaved by the Vong.
LOTF was mostly a story about family, where that family had failed and how it will set things right after the turmoil. I liked the theme myself. How do you put everyone else before yourself? It's an interesting, complex question that I think that series asked.
There are so many ways the EU could go from here. And why Ulicus would want to give the entire future of Star Wars to Darkhorse I'm not sure, perhaps Ulicus will be kind enough to respond  . I personally think balance between the Novels/Comics/Games/TV is the best way to go. No one medium should control any Star Wars timeframe. 
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Darth-Ghost
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Robimus posted:
[quote=Darth-Ghost]
While I agree on some levels, on others I do not. At no time in Star Wars do we ever see a war won without firing a shot, its more about standing up for what you believe in and being willing to fight to reach your goal.
The evils of discrimination and slavery are glossed over in most Star Wars fare. Qui-Gon didn't go to Tattooine to free slaves, and made no apparent action to help after he departed. Really the Galaxy/New Republic has always allowed the Hutt's free hand in their territories to do what they will. Really the only time the galaxy proper took an interest in salvery was when they were about to be enslaved by the Vong.
LOTF was mostly a story about family, where that family had failed and how it will set things right after the turmoil. I liked the theme myself. How do you put everyone else before yourself? It's an interesting, complex question that I think that series asked.
There are so many ways the EU could go from here. And why Ulicus would want to give the entire future of Star Wars to Darkhorse I'm not sure, perhaps Ulicus will be kind enough to respond . I personally think balance between the Novels/Comics/Games/TV is the best way to go. No one medium should control any Star Wars timeframe.
-On the only way to win is not to fight: It's been shown that it was wrong for the Jedi to get involved in the Clone Wars at all, since both sides had good motives but questionable actions, and they were both being controlled by Palpatine in the end anyways. Luke Skywalker defeated the Sith and freed the galaxy by throwing away his lightsaber and refusing to fight. Also in LOTF, even though the Jedi didn't leave the war they did recognize that both sides were gray, becoming a third faction.
-The evils of discrimination and slavery might not have been fixed during the movies, but its shown to be one of the main sources for conflict in the galaxy. Coruscant was ignoring small planets (like Naboo) and backwater planets in the Outer Rim (like Tattoine), having been corrupted by corporate influences like the Trade Federation, and the Jedi were unfortunately tied to the failing Republic. The abuse and neglect of these forgotten worlds is what spawned the Separatist movement, and the view that the Alliance was too centralized in Coruscant in dictating what the rest of the galaxy should do is what caused Corellia to declare independence and form the Confederation. The galaxy (specifically Coruscant and the Core worlds) leaving the Outer Rim worlds to the abuse of the Hutts, Trade Federation, and criminal organizations is the main cause of the galaxy's problems, but the heroes don't seem to be able to mobilize the government into directly confronting it.
-The focus of LOTF was definitely on family, such as the Skywalkers, the Solos, the Fetts, the Djos, and the Antilles. I definitely agree there, especially since the Skywalkers and Solos (and now the Djos) are the descendants of the Chosen One and therefore the Force itself. They are the Legacy of the Force. I agree they're going to keep up with the focus on family through the era, especially on how the Skywalkers and Fels actually become dynasties.
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THRAWN007 posted:
How about a novel where Luke,Han and Leia confront an older Assanj Ventress from The Clone Wars assuming she survives that long?
I hope not. Let the poor girl stay dead. Hett coming back was bad enough.
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Jek_Windu
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How about a novel storyline that isn't chock full of plotholes, idiot characters, and nonsensical situations?
On a serious note though, I really like the idea of Ben vs the Fringe for a lot of reasons. First, it would lend itself well to a succession of one-shots and short trilogies that would give us all a break from super-long epics that will change the foundation of the galaxy. Second, they could do something really interesting with Han's character, watching his nephew take down people not too different from what he used to be like.
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UltimateMandalore
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I'd like to read more about Ben. I really like his character and enjoy reading scenes with him. I would like to see more hardliner Jedi, almost on the level of Jacen Solo but only doing things that are necessary.
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Darth-Ghost
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How much of a role do you think Daala will play in shaping this new era? Or how about Fett and the Mandalorians? Will Luke Skywalker continue to shape this era for decades, or will he pass his mantle to Ben early on? Is the Confederation movement really dead, or just back into hibernation?
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CadderlySoaring
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Daala will hopefully be gone by Fate of the Jedi 1.
After all, she wasn't freely elected by the GFFA. She was more of a concession towards ending the war (silly as that is.).
Most readers can't see the people voting in a War Criminal who facilitated the construction of Emperor's Terror Weapons and who tried crashing a Star Destroyer onto Coruscant as an "elected" official.
When the elections happen and they should have happened by MF (2 years after LOTF), then she should be gone. If she isn't, the writers and people at Del Rey and LFL need a headcheck.
And Boba Fett will be what...75...76 years old? He needs to fade away as much as the other older characters in place of the new generation.
Edit: Of course, if Traviss is writing any future novel within the Fate of Jedi series, then Boba Fett and his Mandalorians will be the headline...they'll be invincible and they will have a just cause for taking down the big bad boogeymen Jedi.
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Rouge77
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Darth-Ghost posted:
How much of a role do you think Daala will play in shaping this new era? Or how about Fett and the Mandalorians? Will Luke Skywalker continue to shape this era for decades, or will he pass his mantle to Ben early on? Is the Confederation movement really dead, or just back into hibernation?
Confederation? Really dead in my opinion.
Mandalorians? Small or nonexistent role. Fett might occasionally have larger roles, though.
Luke? I do think he will continue to shape the era for decades to come, but Ben will have a very big role. After all, Jacen's death did leave a lot of open space for Ben to claim, so he doesn't have to take it from his father.
Daala? I don't know. It depends whether they are serious with her being redeemed and responsible now. If she is, then her role will be very small, if not, she will have a big role as a villain.
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Why does everyone hate Daala so much?
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Because KJA wrote her so badly in JAT.
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Semantics. Is it the characters one hates, or the hands that typed them? Where does the division lie?
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UltimateMandalore posted:
Why does everyone hate Daala so much?
Exactly, right. KJA.
Daala has appeared in what...5..7 EU novels? (With the Death Star novel)
In 4 or 5 of them, she was a psychopath.
Her answer to things? Gassing people, crashing Star Destroyers onto the Capital, trying to kill the Jedi and she loses...every...single...battle.
It wasn't until her "appearance" in LOTF's Revelation that she was retconned.
I even giggled when Traviss wrote Niathal saying "Well, they say Daala tore up the strategy books."
Yeah, she tore them up alright. In the previous EU novels, Daala couldn't fight her way out of a paperbag.
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Excellence posted:
Semantics. Is it the characters one hates, or the hands that typed them? Where does the division lie?
KJA is a pretty bad writer in my opinion, but my dislike towards Daala is forever imprinted to my mind because the first impression was so bad. I didn't dislike Daala because KJA created her and wrote about her first, I disliked and dislike her because she was such a laughable villain after Thrawn.
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