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Ulicus
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6/29 8:54am
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Tam_Elgrin posted:
And you're being a tad unfair on Wizards
That's actually impossible.
And I say that as someone who has a gaming bent and hates the word "actually". 
Tam_Elgrin posted:
admittedly, the recent Behind the Threat article was poorly researched, but I think the other material WotC have been giving us - MESTOP, Bounty Postings, and the excellent Dawn of Defiance campaign (with chapters written by such big names as Abel Pena and John Jackson Miller) - more than makes up for it.
Not really. It just means that we know Wizards could've done better... but they didn't. How is that reassuring? That said, I'll take your word on the "safe hands" thing. Even so, I'm going to remain cautious until we have some news that John is involved on some level.
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Zorrixor
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Ulicus posted:
It's always good to see a Star Wars product in WotC's capable hands... maybe we'll finally discover the truth behind Jacen Skywalker! 
Ah, I shouldn't gripe. At least the KotOR sourcebook is guaranteed to be good and, hey, maybe this sourcebook *won't* mess about with canon? Who knows?
I can't say I'm allowing myself to get my hopes up with the KotOR sourcebook... I'm too worried about references to a "Zayne Skywalker" or more EGTTF plot giveaways only this time worse than just "Revanchist = Revan" but an all out "Zayne = Nihilus" or something.
Sourcebooks just seem to be worrisome of late. It isn't the authors fault per se, since things like KOTOR2 are hard to put into words and I've been sympathetic toward the odd mistake like "Darth Kreia". I'm just worried with the story still ongoing it runs the risk of either having erroneous information based on how ambiguous so much of the story remains, what with the number of secrets and twists yet to happen, or else giving things away by accident if the people writing it are allowed to be privy to JJM's full plot notes.
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Rogue_Follower
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Considering that JJM is writing parts of the KotOR Sourcebook, I'm pretty sure he won't let his co-authors give anything away he doesn't want out of the bag.
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Vrook_Lamar
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The problem with this book is the same as the problem as with the KotOR, Force Unleashed and Clone Wars Campaign Guides. No Saga Edition Campaign Guides have been released yet so we have no idea what to expect. The only Saga Edition supplements out right now are stat heavy with fluff limited to very individual descriptions. Nobody outside of WotC has any idea how they plan to handle these books.
eddie1969 posted:
I understand, but I have to point out that Amazon was also first to post about The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide, and the KotOR Campaign Guide. They also have a Clone Wars Campaign Guide up, which has not been announced anywhere else
The Clone Wars guide has basically been stealth confirmed, but there's also Imperial Entanglements, which is no more than the ghost of a nonproduct.
Ulicus posted:
It's always good to see a Star Wars product in WotC's capable hands... maybe we'll finally discover the truth behind Jacen Skywalker!
I don't know, you post 1 bad article and it's what you get remembered for...
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When its a simple mistake that most knowledgeable fans would be able to avoid in their sleep, then its kind of infamous. Not to mention if the author didn't catch it, then the editor should've.
And while JJM himself is writing the KotOR Sourcebook, I'm a little bit more worried about this one since I don't see Mr. Ostrander or Ms. Dureensma's name on the book, but I'll try to remain optimistic.
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Oh wow, this is going to be awesome!  (If they don't mess it up, that is) I'd love to do some Legacy roleplaying with my RPG buddies, although we are already planning a KOTOR campaign.
I'm really happy to see that more era guides are being produced than before, to finally heed fan pleas. I used the TOTJ guide many times and that's not even an official product! However, I am a little disappointed that Ostrander will not be working on it. 
I share the concerns about it affecting the canon, especially in the LOTF times, but I still think it would be worth it, for the sake of RPG.
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Canonize IK lighsidedness!
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BobaMatt posted:
Canonize IK lighsidedness!
See, I'm worried they'll canonise the fanon definition of "grey jedi". 
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BobaMatt posted:
Canonize IK lighsidedness!
Canonize IK darksidedness!
Seriously speaking, though, I'm rather interested as to which side of the era they'll focus more heavily on. On one hand, they could explore the the critically underexplored and medium-quality LotF, or the decently explored and higher-quality Legacy. 
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Lord_Hydronium posted:
dizfactor posted:
I worry that they'll try to include the LotF novel era.
I think I'd actually prefer a focus on LOTF over Legacy, since the former is in serious need of fleshing out, patching up, and other assorted gerunds that sourcebooks are good at.
I feel like you could have a single sourcebook covering the whole period 25 ABY-40 ABY, or 19 ABY-40 ABY, or even 4 ABY-40 ABY, and it would be more useful and coherent than one that tried to cover 40 ABY-137 ABY.
The whole "Legacy Era" nomenclature is more of a marketing conceit than a reflection of anything resembling an IU time period.
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dizfactor posted:
Lord_Hydronium posted:
dizfactor posted:
I worry that they'll try to include the LotF novel era.
I think I'd actually prefer a focus on LOTF over Legacy, since the former is in serious need of fleshing out, patching up, and other assorted gerunds that sourcebooks are good at.
I feel like you could have a single sourcebook covering the whole period 25 ABY-40 ABY, or 19 ABY-40 ABY, or even 4 ABY-40 ABY, and it would be more useful and coherent than one that tried to cover 40 ABY-137 ABY.
The whole "Legacy Era" nomenclature is more of a marketing conceit than a reflection of anything resembling an IU time period.
When you think how Revelation and Invincible set the stage for the resurgence of the Empire it kind of makes sense. The end of the "old" Empire with the death of Pellaeon, and the beginning of a new golden era with Jag at the helm.
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I want some Abel Pena stories or something thrown in there. I don't want just a 'stats book' I want a SOURCEbook, give us something in-universe that maybe ties up some loose ends at least, similar to things like Cracken's Threat Dossier, there's a reason it goes for so much on ebay, it ain't just about the stats.
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Jedi_Matt posted:
I want some Abel Pena stories or something thrown in there. I don't want just a 'stats book' I want a SOURCEbook, give us something in-universe that maybe ties up some loose ends at least, similar to things like Cracken's Threat Dossier, there's a reason it goes for so much on ebay, it ain't just about the stats.
I disagree. I want it as light on fluff as possible. That sort of thing made sense pre-Wookieepedia, but not now.
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But Wookieepedia isn't official.
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Wookieepedia lives on fluff.
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