THRAWN007 posted: Wasn't the "passing of the torch" supposed to be the theme of both NJO and LotF? This is made difficult that the next generation is now down to....well, just Ben at this point.
Earthknight posted:Who thinks the villain for this series will be another Caedite? I do.
Earthknight posted:As it is, I'm not one of those fans who gets mad when the EU doesn't go exactly the way they want it to.
NelanisGhost posted:THRAWN007 posted:I wonder if Ben Skywalker will become a Jedi Master and take on an apprentice in FOTJ or at the end of FOTJ. And will Ben get a girl in FOTJ? The future Mrs.Ben Skywalker?? And I still do hope that Luke and Ben will go to the Unknown Regions perhaps to learn not only what made Jacen dark but encouter a lost group of Jedis from the Old Jedi Order hiding from Palapatine's Order 66. A 16 YO Jedi master? I think not. Ben isn't really a Jedi in my eyes, but of course Luke will nepotize him to death. I hate that. Ben hasn't even ever gone to SCHOOL, that I can see, and has never trained as a Jedi. He trained as a thug with Jacen. He's never spent a New York minute at the Academy learning anything. I don't think he's all wise because he is stoic. Silence doesn't equal genius. That doesn't cut it for me. He didn't even use the force until he was eight. Only six years, so far. And he was a bratty 8 YO, not serious like the Solo kids, or other Jedi, he was a video game playing child. A child. I don't find his development believable. Just because your parent dies it doesn't make a you a sage overnight. Just, PLEASE! I do hope Ben gets to live a full life, and he has much to learn out from under his dad's wings. HGe really should go off by himself for a year and just do nothing but learn the academics and lessons of the force and find a girl when he's 25 and that he hasn't known since kindergarten. He should have some normalcy. I can't relate to the character very well, because he's had such weird progression.
THRAWN007 posted:I wonder if Ben Skywalker will become a Jedi Master and take on an apprentice in FOTJ or at the end of FOTJ. And will Ben get a girl in FOTJ? The future Mrs.Ben Skywalker?? And I still do hope that Luke and Ben will go to the Unknown Regions perhaps to learn not only what made Jacen dark but encouter a lost group of Jedis from the Old Jedi Order hiding from Palapatine's Order 66.
Earthknight posted:You know what would be funny. If Luke and Ben went on this quest, found a bearded hermit who looked like Moses, and he turned out to be the real Jacen Solo. Yes, I wouldn't mind if it was retconned that the Jacen that came back from the five year journey was actually Jaacen. It would also explain the madness since a side effect from certain cloning methods is madness.
marmkid posted:Earthknight posted:You know what would be funny. If Luke and Ben went on this quest, found a bearded hermit who looked like Moses, and he turned out to be the real Jacen Solo. Yes, I wouldn't mind if it was retconned that the Jacen that came back from the five year journey was actually Jaacen. It would also explain the madness since a side effect from certain cloning methods is madness. i wouldnt have minded if this happened in LotF like if Lumiya had attempted to recruit Jacen while he was on his force journey, but he refused and then she overpowered him and held him captive while her clone of him went back and tried to take over the galaxy we got too much POV from Jacen though for this to happen now plus, the whole DN would need to be thrown away
Master-Chief-Kenobi posted:marmkid posted:Earthknight posted:You know what would be funny. If Luke and Ben went on this quest, found a bearded hermit who looked like Moses, and he turned out to be the real Jacen Solo. Yes, I wouldn't mind if it was retconned that the Jacen that came back from the five year journey was actually Jaacen. It would also explain the madness since a side effect from certain cloning methods is madness. i wouldnt have minded if this happened in LotF like if Lumiya had attempted to recruit Jacen while he was on his force journey, but he refused and then she overpowered him and held him captive while her clone of him went back and tried to take over the galaxy we got too much POV from Jacen though for this to happen now plus, the whole DN would need to be thrown away Not nessarilly...what if Clone Jacen...didn't know he was a a clone? Side effect of the same clone maddness Joruus C'baoth suffered from in Heir to the empire?
Master-Chief-Kenobi posted: Not nessarilly...what if Clone Jacen...didn't know he was a a clone? Side effect of the same clone maddness Joruus C'baoth suffered from in Heir to the empire?
Earthknight posted:They kind of did feel something different and noticed he changed a little. And in characterization the change is pretty stunning. It's like a whole different person which is where the clone Jacen idea comes into play. He may look like Jacen, may think he's Jacen, but he is totally different. While the POV suggest that it's Jacen, it also suggest that it could also be clone madness. I mean if we had got the same style of POV with C Baoth we would probably think it's the real C'Baoth.
Earthknight posted:Actually it doesn't fit. His personality diffrences in NJO and LotF are like night and day. Caedus didn't even act like Post Traitor Jacen. It was like a totally different person entirely. And I think it was. A psychotic mass murdering clone who thought he was the real thing and did everything to save his daughter except that the clone madness just totally took over. Caedus and his lust to control identically mirrors C'Baoth's control lust. If written right, Caedus could easily be retconned into being a clone. And I'd believe it. It would be the one retcon that would be very believable and still make Caedus come out looking like a good villain( especially since he corrupted everyone in the galaxy).