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Legacy of the Force: Why?
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Bly
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Mar '05
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7/3 4:50pm
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Legacy of the Force: Why?
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First off, no, this is not a thread wondering why this series was greenlit, etc, etc. That thread, I leave to the infinitely more witty Trip.
This thread, on the other hand, is regarding the fairly simple and straightforward question of why this series received its title.
The simple reason I'm questioning the title is that it makes no sense whatsoever. The word "legacy" implies something is gone, but it has left memories of it. In this case, according to the title, the thing that has left a legacy is apparently the Force. However, throughout the series, the Force constantly appears, and seems to be in no jeopardy at all.
So, why Legacy of the Force? If they liked the Legacy thing so much, why not Jacen's Legacy (though that might have given too much away) or Legacy of the Sith (OK, I'm definitely reaching now )? How hard could it be to think of a different title?
Anyone else agree with me on this? Can anyone else think of a better title?
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Rouge77
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7/3 4:59pm
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RE: Legacy of the Force: Why?
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Better title? Copy the title of one of Chinua Achebe's novels: Things Fall Apart. That sums LotF in my opinion. Both when I am and when I'm not being sarcastic.
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Volderon
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7/3 5:43pm
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RE: Legacy of the Force: Why?
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I think they used it because it sounded cool...no other reason. The Betrayal hardcover flap says that "this is Luke Skywalker's Legacy" (or something along those lines I can't remember). Definately not. What happened to Luke? Yeah his wife died but whatever. Nothing really happens to Luke, sure his legacy is the Jedi Order, but it is still alive.
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Jek_Windu
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7/3 6:07pm
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Hmmm. "Luke Skywalker's legacy" could be referring to Jacen and his generation of Jedi- the first generation fully trained in the New Order. If so, then it becomes a statement on Luke's failure, as there are only three Jedi from that generation left alive and unturned at the end of LOTF.
No, wait. Del Rey isn't that good.
Nevermind- they it named it Legacy of the Force because it sounds cool.
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Darth-Ghost
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7/3 8:09pm
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The living desendants of the Force itself (through Anakin) are:
-Luke Skywalker (married to Mara)
-Ben Skywalker
-Leia Organa Solo (married to Han)
-Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus (was with Tenel Ka)
-Jaina Solo (involved with Zekk and Jag)
-Allana Djo
The Second Galactic Civil War was basically their story, and since they are the descendants of what the Force gave to the galaxy then they are the "Legacy of the Force."
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RK_Striker_JK_5
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7/3 8:13pm
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I'm not sure. The real Legacy seems to be of pain, of suffering. If that's the Legacy of the Force... no thank you.
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Alpha-Red
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7/3 8:14pm
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If anything the NJO should have been the defining moment for the YJK generation, so concocting this new series and calling it "Legacy of the Force" doesn't really fly with me.
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GoA
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7/3 8:55pm
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Why did they name some of the individual books such as they did?
Invincible ... who, exactly, was invincible?
Revelation ... it's just too bad no one seemed to give a damn about the big "revelation", if that's what you call Caedus casually letting Shevu know he's a Sith Lord, and the rest of the family just acting sort of like, "oh, well, that's nice."
Chances are, these books and series are given names they believe will sell books, not necessarily names that correspond with the events that take place in them.
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Jek_Windu
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7/3 10:09pm
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And all of it is just more proof that Del Rey is the worst thing to happen to Star Wars since Jar-Jar.
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ZanderSolo
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7/3 10:15pm
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RE: Legacy of the Force: Why?
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I tell myself it was actually Jacen's Legacy. IIRC in one of the books(may have been DN also) Jacen refers to some of his visions as the Force wanting him to protect It's child, not his child(though that is mentioned alot too.)
So maybe it is that the Legacy of the Force is protecting its children, in the upcoming generation being Allana.
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Grey1
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7/4 12:30am
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I think the title came mainly from the plotline of "the Skywalker destiny coming full circle", i.e. Jacen becoming another Vader. Maybe even Ben beoming another Luke, but they never mentioned that in the press material. I guess because in the beginning, they had bigger plans for the whole "Ben choosing Force sides" issue.
So, it's more like "legacy enforced through the Force" or "Legacy of the Darth" ("Vader's Legacy"). The whole idea of someone being destined to become the next Sith because one family member had been one seemed a bit, well, forced to me, though. And with the Sith Lord that got created through this legacy, it seems more like destiny residues that only messed up some guy's life.
In the end, it's a kewl grippy title that sells well. Same with the upcoming Fate of the Jedi.
And if we're honest, The New Jedi Order didn't really fit that series perfectly, either. "Invasion of the Biotech Monsters" might have be more fitting for the main plot line (and I wonder if it wouldn't have created more market interest ). About the Jedi Order, it had been there since JAT, so it wasn't really new (neither in- nor out-of-universe). Then, the series didn't truly concentrate on the Jedi and their trouble - only if it suited the story.
The main point would have been the search for a new level of understanding of the Force that had been stressed again and again by the the Solo kids and Kyp, creating a "new order". And while this gets acknowledged in the epilogue of TUF, one might argue that this focus comes a bit late (and has been consecutively thrown out of the window by DN/LOTF anyway).
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Volderon
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7/4 9:58am
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Jacen's legacy seems to fit, but the whole story about him becoming another vader didn't make sense. Just like the old saying "You can't know where you're going until you know where you've been" so history doesn't repeat itself, but I guess Jacen never learned that lesson at the Jedi Academy. And as for Jacen being a "Sith Lord"...he definately wasn't a Sith Lord. He never had any training in the Sith ways, he chose his own name and thats it...at most he would be a Dark Jedi pretending to be a Sith. A little off topic but...yeah.
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rumsmuggler
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7/4 10:11am
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Luke and company recognized him as a Sith, so that's good enough for me and just because we don't explicitly see him receive any Sith training doesn't mean he didn't have any.
And Sith can choose their own name if there is no one around to name them.
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Robimus
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7/4 10:17am
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Because it sounds cool!
And Luke did have quite a lot happen to him in the series. The loss of his wife, the mother of his child, is devestating. I can't believe that folks can shrug and say "Nothing happened to Luke in this series".
Also he nearly lost his Son to the Darkside, ontop of Mara. For a while the possibility existed that he would lose both Mara and Ben. I don't think anything worse could have happened to him than that, including his own demise. I'm sure Luke would have much rather sacrificed himself than lose Mara......
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sabarte
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7/4 10:22am
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Yeah, the title always struck me as gimmicky
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J_K_DART
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7/4 10:28am
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Iirc Shapiro was asked this, and said she couldn't yet say as there wasn't a consensus. The full quote is on SoS somewhere.
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