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Glenstorm
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Mar '06
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7/5 2:07pm
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Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
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Hi everyone
This is my first time posting on a discussion thread so I hope this is a valid question.
I just wanted to know if anyone agreed with me that comics should have a companion novel?
Now I do like comics, I have all of the Clone Wars ones and some of the Knights of the Old Republic, but I prefer to read a book so much more because it's altogether more in depth.
I do know some books have a comic version to the story, like Revenge of the Sith and such. Would it be so much trouble to do this vice versa and have a book for the comic? I'd dearly love to see some of the comic Clone Wars stories in a book.
What is everyone's thoughts on this? Does anyone agree?
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DarthBoba
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7/5 2:20pm
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Not unless they were written by really good authors, no.
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Volderon
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I would like to see the Legacy comics turn to books...but only if they don't screw it up or something.
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Boba Frett
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7/5 2:23pm
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I've said that for a long time- I'd live to see a novelization of Dark Empire and the Tales of the Jedi stuff. They did companion pieces for Shadows...
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Valin__Kenobi
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7/5 2:32pm
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Yes and no. Not all comic stories are worthy of novels, and vice versa.
Also, we need look no further than Jedi vs. Sith and Path to Destruction: there will inevitably be discrepancies between the versions, so which one is the "real" version of events?
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DarthBoba
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The Shadows book/comic/video game stuff was different parts of the same story. Not really the same thing.
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Manisphere
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7/5 2:41pm
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Not really. I often want a comic companion to a novel but rarely the reverse. I rarely find that a comic needs to be any more than it already is. Now a good novel sometimes begs for some images. Remembering what every species looks like, or the need to actually see so many of the ships described is the most obvious reason I can think of to do a comic adaptation of a novel. There are others of course. A good image of Ben, and the big three at their current age would be nice as well.
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DarthStymi
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7/5 2:46pm
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I have felt that way about some comic story-lines--that they'd make a great novel in themselves. As some have mentioned, Dark Empire comes to mind.
In other respects, this has already happened. As others, again, have mentioned, look at the 1st Darth Bane novel (I am not so worried about discrepancies. In such a big universe, and with different authors adding to that universe, discrepancies are inevitable.)
At the same times, they are completely different mediums, so I think instead of a direct transfer of a comic story-line into a novel, what is more likely to happen is a novel about those comic book characters would turned into a novel. I can see this happening with Legacy--I would not be surprised at if a novel came out of that era. This could be said to already have happened with some of the Clone Wars era novels.
However, there is precedence for directly turning a comic story into a novel, like the Death of Superman and Kingdom Come (both from DC--trying to think if there is anything similar like that from Marvel...nothing is coming to mind).
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Solus
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7/5 2:53pm
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I have always viewed comics as dumbed down books, so I don't read them. I know that there are good stories in them so I would love to see them as novels.
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DarthStymi
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I am sorry, but comics are not a lessor story medium or more dumb than novels. You are limiting yourself, and, as you yourself have noted, are missing out on some great stories.
In fact comics, are becoming increasingly more accepted by academe--graphic novel English classes are becoming more common and academic journals are publishing more articles about the medium.
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7/5 4:37pm
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Heavens no.
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dizfactor
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7/5 7:42pm
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How many times has some variation on this thread come up?
No, hell no, a thousand times no.
If novel fans feel like they're missing out, they can read the ******* comics. If not, they can stop whining. Also, certain comics fans need to get over this deeply ignorant idea that novels are more "real," more "adult," more "serious," or more "intelligent" as a medium than comics and stop looking for some kind of validation from having their stories novelized.
Solus posted:
I have always viewed comics as dumbed down books, so I don't read them.
I have always viewed this opinion as dumbed-down itself, so I don't take it seriously.
Comics, as a medium, are no less valid an art form or form of literature than novels. You will not find many serious literary critics that consider something like Watchmen or A Contract With God to have less intellectual or artistic merit than, say, Hemingway. In fact, if we were really going to get literarily snobby, SW EU novels are much further down the hierarchy from "serious novels" than SW EU comics are from "serious comics."
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Ris_jSarek
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7/6 2:19am
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I'd like to see a small handful of comics novelized, Dark Empire topping the list.
dizfactor posted:
Also, certain comics fans need to get over this deeply ignorant idea that novels are more "real," more "adult," more "serious," or more "intelligent" as a medium than comics and stop looking for some kind of validation from having their stories novelized.
No, but they ARE very much a "different" medium. They both can tell stories of literary merit, but they do so in different ways. A picture says a thousand words, so comics can convey a lot of visual information in a very compact manner; the amount of text necessary to provide even a portion of the visual detail of a single comic frame would bore a novel reader away from the book. On the other hand, comics don't have nearly as much room for words; heavy dialogue scenes, or exposition where visual detail isn't what's being explained, aren't as practical in a comic, where text bubbles fill up quickly. Just grabbing the nearest comic (Star Wars Empire 31), I find the first page has six sentences, the second thirteen sentences, the third fourteen. Meanwhile, taking the nearest novel (the Raiders of the Lost Ark novelization) and flipping to a dialog-heavy page (which should best represent the kind of text seen in a comic), around 40 sentences are on a single page.
Furthermore, comics are a lot more expensive per unit of story than a novel. Each page of a comic typically has several detailed pieces of artwork in addition to the written text. This drives up the cost and means you can't get a novel's worth of story in a comic without it jumping out of the realm of affordability. Comics have to be pithier. This doesn't mean they aren't good or literary, but it DOES mean, for better or worse, that they're shorter.
So, yeah, there are many stories that would benefit from an adaptation in the other medium. Imagine, for instance, the field day fleet junkies would have should the Black Fleet Crisis be retold as a comic. The focus on the new military of the New Republic is hindered by the lack of visual reference. Meanwhile, Dark Empire could definitely stand to have a bit more exposition (the Dark Empire Sourcebook is of course a blessing, but using the exposition in the story itself to actually help it along would be beneficial). This isn't to say that either work is incomplete, but our vision of the Star Wars galaxy as a whole would be more complete with such adaptations.
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blaXXer
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7/6 4:18am
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Trip posted:
Heavens no.
This.
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Solus
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7/6 2:09pm
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DarthStymi posted:
I am sorry, but comics are not a lessor story medium or more dumb than novels. You are limiting yourself, and, as you yourself have noted, are missing out on some great stories.
In fact comics, are becoming increasingly more accepted by academe--graphic novel English classes are becoming more common and academic journals are publishing more articles about the medium.
I have started reading some comics, namely the Tales of the Jedi Comics. I just prefer novels.
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Havac
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7/6 3:48pm
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You might want to try reading some better comics.
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