Author Topic: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
8187_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/6 4:51pm Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
I think Stover could make an absolutely fascinating Dark Empire novel. That's one place the comics lack at times, the actual philosophy of the Jedi/Sith; I'm sure he'd throw a hundred-page section in there titled "The instruction of Darth (insert whatever Luke's Sith name may have been here) by Darth Sidious in the ways of the Sith Religion" tongue

 

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Carnage04 
Registered: Mar '05
43718_Darth Nihl
Date Posted: 7/6 5:44pm Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?


I prefer novels but the Comic stories lately are just way too good to pass up. I wonder what Legacy would feel like as a well written book at times but I think that the visuals help me connect with the characters, the era, and the locations. I do think something like KoToR could go into book form from a different viewpoint (Not following Zayne as the main character) but in general I'm fine with the comics just as they are.

 

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HothTrooper 
Registered: Jun '01
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Date Posted: 7/6 6:07pm Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me? - Date Edited: 7/6 6:22pm (2 edits total) Edited By: HothTrooper
I know some people feel that comics are juvenile and inferior to novels, but I've always believed that comics were a better medium for Star Wars than novels. Star Wars is a very visual set of films and the comic books are better able to portray that visual detail for the most part. Few of the Star Wars novel authors have been able to strike the right balance between the story and the description of the visuals. Most of the novels have points where either the visual aspect is sacrificed to move the story along or the story gets bogged down in excessive descriptions of scenery or technology. It's just really hard to maintain that balance in a novel in my opinion. So, I would say that the comic to novel adaptation is pretty unnecessary.

 

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Trip 
Registered: Dec '03
41423_Stormtrooper
Date Posted: 7/6 10:56pm Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me? - Date Edited: 7/6 10:57pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Trip
blaXXer posted:
Trip posted:
Heavens no.


This.

Wait, crap... that came out wrong.

What I meant to say was, hell yes, we need to convert the comics into novels.

The comics are all silly and kiddy, but the novels are for adults, like me!

 

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Amon_Amarth 
Registered: Jan '05
16242_C-3PO
Date Posted: 7/7 4:35am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
Imo, it all depends on the author of the novel. If it is Matthew Stover for example, I wouldn't complain, but there are some other writers which could mess things up.
And I like comics as a medium. I'm not sure how some thing s would work out as a novel. KOTOR for example; it's much more fun like this, as a comic.

 

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jfostrander01 
Title: Writer:
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Registered: Oct '01
46075_Cade Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/7 8:25am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
DarthStymi posted:
I am sorry, but comics are not a lessor story medium or more dumb than novels. You are limiting yourself, and, as you yourself have noted, are missing out on some great stories.

In fact comics, are becoming increasingly more accepted by academe--graphic novel English classes are becoming more common and academic journals are publishing more articles about the medium.


I have had trade paper backs of some of my work -- the historical westerns like THE KENTS or APACHE SKIES -- actually used in college level classes. Assigned reading.

 

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jfostrander01 
Title: Writer:
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Registered: Oct '01
46075_Cade Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/7 8:27am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
Trip posted:
blaXXer posted:
Trip posted:
Heavens no.


This.

Wait, crap... that came out wrong.

What I meant to say was, hell yes, we need to convert the comics into novels.

The comics are all silly and kiddy, but the novels are for adults, like me!


ALL comics are silly and kiddy or just the SW ones?

-- John

 

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DarthStymi 
Registered: Jan '02
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Date Posted: 7/7 8:36am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
Many would argue that Star Wars is "silly and kiddie."

 

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Whizkid 
Registered: Sep '03
24189_Palpatine
Date Posted: 7/7 8:59am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?

I actually think the comic medium works better for SW than the novel medium. Something like Legacy is much more comparable to the movies than say TTT or the NJO. Don't get me wrong I love most of the novels but in terms of evoking the feelings of the movies comics like Legacy take the cake hands down.

 

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mxcp204 
Registered: Jul '06
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Date Posted: 7/7 10:48am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
Boba Frett posted:
I've said that for a long time- I'd live to see a novelization of Dark Empire and the Tales of the Jedi stuff. They did companion pieces for Shadows...

yeah, ive been hoping for the same thing for quite a while now.

 

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The_Loyal_Imperial 
Title: YAHTZEE and Blackjack Host
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Registered: Nov '07
19250_Seal of the Empire
Date Posted: 7/7 10:54am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
DarthStymi posted:
Many would argue that Star Wars is "silly and kiddie."
Stover's books might fall outside that definition...

But, on the topic itself, I'd say no. Not every story is going to convert well from one format to the other, especially for the ones that tend, at times, to be scattered in what they cover, like Republic was.

 

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Jedi Trace 
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Registered: Dec '99
46075_Cade Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/7 8:56pm Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
Trip posted:
The comics are all silly and kiddy, but the novels are for adults, like me!
Can't say that I've read any "silly and kiddy" Star Wars comics lately, but I have felt that several of the recent novels were an insult to my intelligence.



Back to the original question:
Glenstorm posted:
I do know some books have a comic version to the story, like Revenge of the Sith and such. Would it be so much trouble to do this vice versa and have a book for the comic? I'd dearly love to see some of the comic Clone Wars stories in a book.

What is everyone's thoughts on this? Does anyone agree?
I can't say that I'd like to read a novelization of existing comics, but prose pieces in the same setting could be nice. Like JJM's Gryph short on Hyperspace: it's a great companion story, yet it does not interfere with the KotOR comics.

 

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Lord_Hydronium 
Registered: Jun '02
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Date Posted: 7/7 9:57pm Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me? - Date Edited: 7/7 9:58pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Lord_Hydronium
Do people, like, not know Trip, or is sarcasm just hard to read over the Internet? tongue

 

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DarthStymi 
Registered: Jan '02
7279_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 7/8 4:24am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
In response to the Loyal Imperial, what I said was not a definition. I was merely trying to point out to those who regard comics and kiddie or silly that many people who are not regard Star Wars as a whole as silly or kiddie.

In other words, calling Star Wars silly or kiddie is hypocritical.

I think neither comics nor Star Wars are silly or kiddie.

A good story is a good story, regardless of the medium.

And as someone else has mentioned, Star Wars transfers very well to the comic medium. Lucas's story telling telling style is very visually based.

I love the books though too.

 

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CadderlySoaring 
Registered: Jul '08
39851_Obi-Wan
Date Posted: 7/8 4:35am Subject: RE: Comics to Novels: Does anyone agree with me?
Perhaps..

I know I may piss off fans of the comics but I don't really consider them to be Canon even if Lucasfilm Licensing does. I know, there's a contradiction in terms.

I've been reading the novels since Heir to the Empire first appeared in book stores. At that time, when I was a teenager, I loved the Dark Empire comics..

But as time has passed and I hit my 30s, well...I wish the comics would be a seperate entity altogether.

I really wish that these "Legacy Comics" set into the future were never introduced at all. It restricts too much from current EU authors.

And it kinda makes all of Luke Skywalker's efforts pointless. Here he is making a stand and rebuilding the Jedi Order only for some comic authors to say..."Nah ah, he failed!"

I'm sure those Legacy comics are good but I wish they A. didn't do it or B. they end up being retconned.

But then again, that's only my one opinion. happy

 

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