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CadderlySoaring  121 posts
Registered: Jul '08
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 9:37am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
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Noooo, Jay...You're thinking Fate of the Jedi: Book 3, by which time Ben will be 21 and have saved the Universe with his Jedi Mastery skills.

 

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Jedi_Matt  2441 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 11:39am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
Kenobi - defeated a Sith, Knighted

Ben - defeated a Sith (Ha! debatable), underwent torture twice and didn't break or turn.

I think he's earnt it, it's been a hard coming of age for him, but the YJK people were knighted before Vector Prime (Tenel Ka, Lowbacca too), so it's not like it's nepotism.

Haven't read the last YJK books though, my whole knighted before VP argument rests on what I've read here, whether it's right or not tongue

 

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CadderlySoaring  121 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 11:53am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
Technically, Tenel, Lowbacca, Jaina, Tahiri and gang were knighted until a few years after Vector Prime...near the end of NJO when Cal Omas became elected as Chief.

But I hear ya, Jedi apprentices and knights are a loose term under Luke's Order. His trainees were doing Knight missions in NJO.

 

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fanboyskywalker  1251 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 12:04pm Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
Maybe they will announce more about FOTJ at Comic-con, such as confirming the time frame (is there any doubt at this point, though?). I think for the most part they are being coy so the focus can stay on TCW stuff.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Ben/Corran team up where they investigate stuff like Black Sun. It could be a way to tie in One Sith activities to the rise of Black Sun again. We already know from Legacy they have spies, dark side adepts who weren't quite strong enough to be Sith, and recruiters and what not out there messing around during Ben's time.

 

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CadderlySoaring  121 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 2:26pm Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight? - Date Edited: 7/10/08 2:29pm (2 edits total) Edited By: CadderlySoaring
Sue has said in the V-Caps thread that the only panel their hosting is The Clone Wars Panel at SDCC.

Nothing about MF or FotJ. I don't think she's attending this year.

Of course, there could be other Star Wars panels (for example, Dark Horse may host something about Legacy) but it seems to be all "Clone Wars" at the SDCC.

Edit: Sorry...Forgot to provide a link. Click here to see Sue's thoughts on the SDCC.

 

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fanboyskywalker  1251 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 2:56pm Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
CadderlySoaring posted:
Sue has said in the V-Caps thread that the only panel their hosting is The Clone Wars Panel at SDCC.

Nothing about MF or FotJ. I don't think she's attending this year.

Of course, there could be other Star Wars panels (for example, Dark Horse may host something about Legacy) but it seems to be all "Clone Wars" at the SDCC.

Edit: Sorry...Forgot to provide a link. Click here to see Sue's thoughts on the SDCC.




Bummer, that's the stuff I'm least interested in.

Thanks for the info, though. Of course, this doesn't mean we can't ask them about other stuff... wink

 

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Havac  14246 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 5:57pm Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
dizfactor posted:
Corran Horn with Ben Skywalker as his apprentice, investigating Black Sun? I'm so there. That is the best idea I've heard for Ben's post-LOTF future.

One thing I do like about Ben's GAG past is that it really makes him his mother's son as well as his father's. Sure, he's a Skywalker with all the potential yada yada yada, but he was also the naive follower/personal assassin of a fascist Sith Lord, just like Mom.

Agreed with the first. As for the second, I've never heard it put quite that way before, but I rather like it. mischief

 

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Dark_jedi224  117 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 6:38pm Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
CadderlySoaring posted:
According to Sue, MF is 2 years after LotF so Ben will be 17, I believe.

As you say, we're still not sure whether Aaron's FotJ:Book 1 will be post-LOTF but it's a good bet it will be. It's not an X-Wing novel (which sometimes focused on the past) and Aaron is someone caught up with the current timeline.

Until we get an official press release/announcement, Aaron, Sue and Del Rey will stay mum on what timeframe it is exactly though.

I'm guessing it's post-LOTF and likely a year after MF (or during the same time frame).




maybe i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure they say he just turned 14 at the beginning of the series and so even 2 years plus he;d only be 16(which is SUCH a difference)

 

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SuperLariat  459 posts
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Date Posted: 7/10/08 10:24pm Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
Yes, he's 14, but:

He's survived (both physically and Force-fully) Ziost (Korriban?).
Was tortured by his mentor/cousin and didn't succumb to the Dark Side.
He uncovered the truth behind Mara's murder.
He's been sent on a suicide mission to assassinate a Head of State AND survived.
He organized the Jedi amongst their departure from the Temple.

I think the kids passed his trials..

 

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The_Phenomenon7  132 posts
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Date Posted: 7/11/08 3:10am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
I don't think you guys are giving Ben enough credit.
Hell, the kids 14! He's obviously more adept then the Solo twins were at his age. And his own father wasn't even aware of the Force until he was 5 years older!
We do know that Ben eventually becomes a real Jedi.
Unless maras corpse is popping out more skywalker kids, Ben is all they got.
We have Kol Skywalker, great Jedi. Cade Skywalker...a bit of an anti-hero, which is what I love. They are all descended from Ben.
So Kol is most likely grandson of Ben.
Now from what we've seen with Cade and Kol, I think Ben is keeping the force alive in that bloodline.
Besides, I think the term Jedi Knight is used to refer to ANY Jedi, is it not?
Obi in Episode 1 was still a Jedi Knight. He used a Lightsaber, he commanded the force. Luke was a Jedi Knight in Empire Strikes Back, same as Obi.
But the Rank and the description are two different things.
I think you are all overthinking this.

 

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Trip  2356 posts
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Date Posted: 7/11/08 7:05am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
Jedi_Matt posted:
Haven't read the last YJK books though, my whole knighted before VP argument rests on what I've read here, whether it's right or not tongue

It's not. tongue

 

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morrison85  8101 posts
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Date Posted: 7/11/08 7:10am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
Trip posted:
Jedi_Matt posted:
Haven't read the last YJK books though, my whole knighted before VP argument rests on what I've read here, whether it's right or not tongue

It's not. tongue
which aspect tongue ?

 

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marmkid  2399 posts
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Date Posted: 7/11/08 7:12am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
i think they were knighted in the 4th hardcover of the NJO
was that Destiny's Way?
its then that Jaina is named the Sword of the Jedi

 

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Nishka  200 posts
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 7/11/08 8:19am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
The_Phenomenon7 posted:
I don't think you guys are giving Ben enough credit.
Hell, the kids 14! He's obviously more adept then the Solo twins were at his age. And his own father wasn't even aware of the Force until he was 5 years older!
We do know that Ben eventually becomes a real Jedi.
Unless maras corpse is popping out more skywalker kids, Ben is all they got.
We have Kol Skywalker, great Jedi. Cade Skywalker...a bit of an anti-hero, which is what I love. They are all descended from Ben.
So Kol is most likely grandson of Ben.
Now from what we've seen with Cade and Kol, I think Ben is keeping the force alive in that bloodline.
Besides, I think the term Jedi Knight is used to refer to ANY Jedi, is it not?
Obi in Episode 1 was still a Jedi Knight. He used a Lightsaber, he commanded the force. Luke was a Jedi Knight in Empire Strikes Back, same as Obi.
But the Rank and the description are two different things.
I think you are all overthinking this.


Actually Jedi knight is not a term to refer to any Jedi. In Episode 1 obi was not yet a knight he didn't become a knight until he defeated Darth Maul at the end he was a padawan. Same as Luke in empire he was not a jedi knight he didn't become a jedi knight until he defeated Vader in Return of the Jedi and turned away from the dark side. They were simply learners padawan at those time.

As for Ben being more adapt at the force at his age then the solo twins. That I have to disagree with because I think the solo twins especally Anakin Solo were shown in novels to have a lot more power and were much more advanced then Ben in Legacy. Its not really a critisim of Ben as I do think he will become a good Jedi Knight. More of a critisim of the writers for mishandling Ben.

 

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Nishka  200 posts
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Date Posted: 7/11/08 8:37am Subject: RE: Ben Skywalker: Jedi Knight?
marmkid posted:
i think they were knighted in the 4th hardcover of the NJO
was that Destiny's Way?
its then that Jaina is named the Sword of the Jedi


Correct

 

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